PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 130: IF GOD FIGHTS FOR US, SHOULDN’T WE FIGHT FOR OTHERS?

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FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS w/ Nancy Campbell

EPISODE 130: IF GOD FIGHTS FOR US, SHOULDN’T WE FIGHT FOR OTHERS?

We have many promises that God fights for us to save us against our enemies. However, we learn two principles today.

1. If God fights for us, shouldn't we fight for those in need, for the unborn, who cannot speak for themselves, for those who suffer persecution, for those who need healing and deliverance, for the downtrodden, and for those being unjustly entreated?

2.  Although God fights for us, we can't sit back and do nothing. God wants us to get in the battle and do our part to fight, too.

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, From Our Home to Yours, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies! Today we are going to finish our third podcast about God being A MAN OF WAR. It is been so amazing to see how much is written in the Scriptures about God, who fights for us, and how He wants us to fight, too.

OK. Now today, we are up to the sixth Hebrew word. Remember, I found 10 different Hebrew words, I think it was 10, that I found. Yes, let me have a look and see. No, I found 12! Goodness me! I found 12 Hebrew words about battles and fighting. Most of these words all relate to God, as well as to us.

LACHAM

So number 6 is lacham. We find this in Exodus 14:14 where it says: “The Lord shall fight for you, and you shall hold your peace.”

Deuteronomy 20:4: “For the Lord Your God is He that goeth with you, TO FIGHT AGAINST YOUR ENEMIES to fight for you against your enemies, to save you.”

Now, there are many, many other Scriptures where it talks about God fighting for us. In fact, when I do the transcripts of this podcast, I will put all those other Scriptures in for you, so you can look them up if you are interested.

The word fight is lacham, as I said. It means “to battle, to prevail, to fight, fighting, war.” It is translated “fight” or “fought” 149 times in the Bible. You notice how these words are used over and over again. God is a God of rest, but He is also a fighting God. That fighting spirit that comes over you when you want to rise up, and fight against evil, and fight against wickedness, that comes from God. Because He fights against wickedness.

Now, we talked about this in the first series, on these subjects, how that God created us, as women, to be nurturers. We have this anointing from God to nurture, and we have that beautiful anointing upon us, to be gently nourishing and caring for our children.

IF GOD FIGHTS FOR US, SHOULDN’T WE FIGHT FOR OTHERS?

But we also have a spirit of fighting to protect our children, and to push back the enemy from coming into our homes. But I was thinking about this, and thinking that if God fights for us, shouldn't we fight for others, just as Jesus intercedes at the right hand of the Father, continually? We also should intercede for others.

So I believe that we also should have that fighting spirit. We should be fighting for the unborn, because they cannot fight for themselves. I think of Proverbs 31:8, 9, where it says: “Open your mouth on behalf of those unable to speak, for the legal rights of all the dying. Open your mouth, judge in righteousness, and plead the cause of the poor and the needy.”

The unborn baby in the womb, it cannot speak for itself. It cannot rise up for itself. It cannot have justice for itself. So we need to fight for the unborn in whatever way we can.

I love to sign petitions, don't you? Any petition that is for caring and for protecting the unborn, I will sign it. Of course, the biggest thing we can do is pray, and also be a voice, always speaking up for the unborn, always speaking up for life.

When we were in Australia, we used to go and stand outside an abortion clinic every week. That was a very powerful thing to do. We're no longer doing that now, but we have one of our families on the hilltop who go every second week down into Nashville. They take lots of our young people with them.

They stand there as a voice for the unborn. They go there to pray, and to be available to speak to anyone they can. They have lots of wonderful opportunities to speak to those who have been going in, and have even been able to save some mothers from going into that wicked place.

So we fight. We have to stand up, and fight against that which is evil. I believe we have to fight the fight of faith for those who need healing and deliverance. We all know those who are going through difficult times physically. Sometimes it's life and death. We can stand in prayer for them, and with them, fighting the prayer of faith.

When someone is in very dire circumstances, you know, we can do more than just say, “OK, I'll pray for you.” Sometimes we can meet with them and pray with them regularly.

Right now, we have a precious couple in our hilltop families who are in great need of prayer. So we meet nightly to pray over them, because there's something about that consistent prayer. Remember that word: “Because of his importunity, he got what he wanted.” That means he did not give up. He kept coming and coming, and not giving up in prayer. God wants us to have that tenacity in prayer, that fight of faith in prayer. (Read Luke 11:8 and Luke 18:1-8).

We fight in prayer for our precious saints who are suffering persecution. Oh my, there are so many in the world today who are suffering persecution. We often forget about them, don't we? Because here, we who live in America, everything is wonderful . . . although it's not becoming quite so wonderful at the moment as we face all this dominion over our lives with masks and lockdowns. Many leftist states are facing tyranny, even over this Thanksgiving period. Some states have said they can't even have anyone else in their homes to share Thanksgiving. Now that is absolute tyranny! That is unbelievable in our free country of America!

And yet, we're still not suffering the persecution that many of our fellow believers are, who have been thrown into prison, who are suffering torment in their bodies . . . the things they have done to their bodies! I'm always challenged by Hebrews 13:3. In the New Living Translation it says: “Remember those in prison, as if you were there yourselves. Remember also those mistreated, as if you felt their pain in your own bodies.”

Often, it's hard to feel that, because maybe we're not feeling pain. We can't even. . . we wonder, how can we really feel what they are going through? But God wants us to do that, as much as possible.

I remember last year, I think it was last year. Serene, my daughter, she was up on their second story of their home, which is still being built. It's pretty high. There was a ladder going up. She was coming down the ladder with a long skirt on. It got caught. She and the ladder went flying down, and she landed hard on her back. She was immediately in, oh, most terrible pain!

She said to me, “Oh Mum,” she said, “I was in such pain. I remembered immediately the persecuted church, how we are to feel their pain in our bodies. For the first time, I could really cry out to God for them! And I was crying out, and praying for them, because I was feeling pain in my own body.”

I thought, “My, I was quite challenged by her doing that.” And anyway, she was fine in the end.

But we have to fight for these different areas. We need to fight for the downtrodden, and those who are unjustly treated. We should always be fighting on the side of justice. We should be fighting against the horrific sex trafficking that is even going on in our nation.

We should be constantly standing up against these evils and praying through for them. Because I believe, although we do everything we can, we speak out, we stand up, we do what we can, but always our greatest fight is in prayer, isn't it?

I believe we should be fighting, at this time, for our President. I mean, we are, at the moment, facing a fraudulent election. I guess all of you are aware of so many different things that have come to light, showing the fraud of this last election.

We've also heard lately of course, about the Dominion voting system, which has interference from overseas, and foreign and international interference that is tied to Venezuela, and Cuba, and China. Even as Sidney Powell, who is one of the lawyers who is working on these things, she said that these Dominion voting systems that were used in so many states across this nation have always been used across the world to defy the will of the people, and those who want freedom.

Of course, the left deny all this. If you were to go to the internet, and look this up, you will find that it says, “fact checking,” to say that this is false. Have you noticed that fact checking has become quite ridiculous? Any article that is speaking truth, it's just, immediately, there's a fact check. “This is false!”

I remember posting, or trying to post one day, an article that I found about a guy who had been working in the election. He showed, before our very eyes, someone who had voted, and it showed his vote. Then it showed that he actually died in 1984! And there it was, in front of your eyes. He showed it clearly.

But then, up came the fact checker! Immediately! “This is false!” They are bringing out this over every little bit of truth that people are seeking to get out. Someone was saying the other day that they posted a picture of the American flag. Immediately, up came fact checking! “This is false!” So, it's getting a little bit ludicrous. We can't really trust the fact checkers at all these days. It's all simply crazy.

But I do believe that we should be praying for our President, praying for a honest election, and that this will not be decided until it is proven to be honest. Whatever happens, after an honest election, we must accept with all our hearts. But it must be honest! It has to be true!

What does the Bible say about these things? Proverbs 11:1: “A false balance is an abomination to the Lord, but a just weight is His delight.” Now, that's really just the same spirit of fraudulent elections, when they're seeking to cheat with votes.

Proverbs 19:36 in the New Living Translation, it says: “Your scales and weights must be accurate.” Voting systems, voting machines, voting papers, whatever they're using, must be accurate!

Micah 6:11 says, “Shall I count them pure with wicked balances, and with a bag of deceitful weights?” God hates any deceit, cheating, anything that is unjust.

Deuteronomy 25, I'll just give you one more Scripture about that, although there are many. Deuteronomy 25:15, 16, “But thou shalt have a perfect and just weight, a perfect and just measure shalt thou have: that thy days may be lengthened in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.”

Isn't that amazing? We have the promise that God will lengthen our days if we are children who obey their parents. Children who obey their parents have that beautiful promise, that they will live a long life.

Now here comes this similar promise: “Your days will be lengthened if you have a perfect and just measure.” When you do things accurately, you do not cheat. It goes on say: “For all that do such things, and all that do unrighteously, are an abomination unto the Lord thy God.”

This election, in the sight of God, is an abomination, because there has been so much fraud. Dear precious ladies, let's keep praying for God to come through, for everything to be exposed.

We are fighting a huge, huge machine. It is very powerful. It is a Goliath. Every little bit of truth that comes forth, they stamp on it immediately. It's denied, it's called false, the fact checkers come out and they just stamp “FALSE” all over it. It is just so difficult to even get the truth out. I believe it can only happen as we pray. So let's keep praying and fighting the battle! Amen? Fighting the battle against wickedness, against evil.

In 1 Samuel 25: 28, it tells us that David fights the battles of the Lord. What battles was David fighting? Were they his own battles? When he went out to fight the enemy, were they his battles? No, the Bible calls them the Lord's battles. God ordained the battles. God is in the battle.

In 1 John 3:8 it says that Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. Now Jesus dwells in our hearts, and He still want to destroy the works of the devil. So we keep on doing that. We have to keep on fighting. We'll always be fighting while there is evil around. Amen?

GOD FIGHTS AND WE FIGHT

Yes. I've written here, God fights for us. But He wants us to fight too. There is an amazing principle in the Word of God. I want to show it to you now. I want you to get hold of this principle. It's the principle that although God comes and fights for us, He doesn't do it all. He wants us to be part of the fighting. It's us working together. God works, and we work. God fights, and we fight.

OK. Let me take you to these Scriptures. We'll have a look at a few examples.

Deuteronomy 7:2, 16, “When the Lord thy God shall deliver them before you,” (that's God fighting. OK, God is delivering them. He's delivering the enemy)“Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them; thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver you.” (you fighting). And so we see here, God delivers the enemy into our hands, and then we have to destroy the enemy. You're both working together.

Deuteronomy 7:24: “He shall deliver their kings into thine hand.” That's God fighting. “And thou shalt destroy their name from under heaven.” That's you fighting!

Deuteronomy 9:3: “The Lord thy God, which goeth over before thee; as a consuming fire, He shall destroy them” (talking about the enemy) “and He shall bring them down before thy face.” This is God fighting for us. Then it goes on to say: “So shalt thou drive them out and destroy them, as the Lord thy God hath said to thee.” That's you fighting! Are you getting the picture?

God does His part, and then He wants us to do our part. We can't just stand there and say “OK, God, fight my battles for me!” Yes, God does come, and He fights for us. But He wants us to also take up that mantle of coming against the enemy and destroying the enemy.

1 Chronicles 14:15, 16. This was a strategy that God gave in one of the battles for Israel: “When thou shalt hear a sound of going in the tops of the mulberry trees, that then thou shalt go out to battle.” That's you fighting. “For God is gone forth before thee, to smite the host of the Philistines.” That's God fighting. “David therefore did as God commanded him: and they smote the host of the Philistines from Gibeon, even to Gazer.”

So right there, we see God was fighting. He smote the Philistines, but that wasn't the end. They had to also go out and smite the Philistines.

OK, I'll give you one more. Jeremiah 51:20, 4. This is God prophetically speaking through Jeremiah to Israel. “Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee,” that's you fighting, “will I break in pieces the nations.” That's God fighting. “And with thee,” you fighting, “will I destroy kingdoms,” God fighting. “And with thee,” you fighting, “I will break in pieces the horse and his rider.” God is fighting. “And with thee,” you fighting, “will I break in pieces the chariots and his rider.” That's God fighting!.

So do you get that picture, ladies? That's a wonderful principle to remember as you face battles. God is fighting for you, but you've got to do your part. You also have to fight and smite the enemy.

QRAB (kerab)

All right. Number seven: qerab. We find this in Zechariah 14:3: “Then shall the Lord go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fought in the day of battle.” This word means “hostile encounter, battles, war,”  and it's used nine times in the Bible. But here we see it's used of God, God going forth to fight.

Then we read in Psalm 144:1, David said: “Blessed be the Lord my Strength, which teacheth my hands to war,” (that's qerab) “and my fingers to fight.” God is the One Who teaches us to fight.

NASHAQ

Number eight: that is nashaq, and it means, “armed men.” Yes, 1 Chronicles 12:2. OK, here it talks about the helpers of the war who came to help David. “They were armed,” (that's the word there, nashaq) “with bows, and could use both the right hand and the left in hurling stones and shooting arrows out of a bow.”

CHALATS

All right, the next one, number nine, is chalats or qalats. If you get the transcript for this podcast, which we do transcripts, they usually come a couple of weeks or so afterwards, you'll get the correct spelling of the Hebrew words, and so on.

OK, we find this one in Numbers 31:3, 4: “And Moses spake to all the people, armed,” (that's the word chalats) “armed men from among you for the war, to attack the Midianites, and execute the Lord's vengeance on Midian. You must send to the battle a thousand men from every tribe, from all the tribes of Israel.”

MA-ARAKAH

All right, number ten: I wonder how I meant to say this: maharawkaw. And that's a Hebrew word that means “military array, army, fight, set in order for the war, rank.” When David was preparing to fight Goliath, he mockingly asked the giant, “Who is this uncircumcised Philistine, that he should defy the armies, (ma-arakah) the armies of the Lord God?” (1 Samuel 17:26).

And then, when he faced Goliath, he confessed, with boldness, his trust in the Lord: “Thou comest to me with a sword, and a shield: but I come to thee in the Name of the Lord of Hosts” (1 Samuel 17:45) Remember, ladies, that's another Name of God, another war-Name of God. “The Lord of Hosts” is the Hebrew word tsaba, and it means the “God of the armies of heaven, the God of the armies of Israel, the God, our Warrior, Who fights for us.” And David came to Goliath “in the Name of the Lord of Hosts, the God of the armies, (ma-harakah) of Israel, whom thou hast defied.”

“And it came to pass, when the Philistine arose. and came and drew nigh to meet David, that David hasted, and ran toward the army (ma-arakah) to meet the Philistine.” (1 Samuel 17:47) So that is that word.

S’OWN

Number 11, s’own. This is a word meaning “military boot,” or “battle.”

SA’AN

And number 12, sa’an. It means “a soldier shod with a shoe, a warrior.” Also found in Isaiah 9:5.

So that completes the 12 different Hebrew words I found for battle and fighting and war. They are used over and over again in the Word of God.

Here's a couple of interesting Scriptures. Here's a Scripture that describes David when he was a young man, even before he was king. In this Scripture, there are three different Hebrew words for battle and war.

In 1 Samuel 16:18, it says: “Behold I have seen a son of Jesse, the Bethlehemite, that is cunning in playing (We all know he was the beautiful, sweet psalmist of Israel) and a mighty” (that's the word gibbor, that’s the first word we talked about) valiant man (chayil, so he was a mighty, valiant man, it’s two Hebrew words there, gibbor and chayil). And a man of war (milchamah) and prudent in matters, and a comely person.” That word actually means “beautiful.” David was obviously beautiful. There's another passage that talks about his eyes, and that he had very amazing and beautiful eyes.

Yes, the Bible talks about this. Isn't it amazing how the Bible talks about little things that we wouldn't even think about? I have read other things about David, and where it talks about his eyes. Some writer believed that he had green eyes. I don't know where he got that, but the Bible does say that he had very beautiful eyes.

Then it finishes, “and the Lord is with him.” Of all the beautiful descriptions of David in that one Scripture, there were three words relating to war.

Now here's another Scripture, 1 Chronicles 7:11. In this Scripture, there are four, just a little Scripture, and yet, four different Hebrew words relating to war:

“All these, the sons of Jediael, by the heads of their fathers, mighty (gibbor) men of valor (chayil), were seventeen thousand and two hundred soldiers fit to go out for war (tsaba) and battle (milchamah).Four strong, powerful Hebrew words about battles.

We can't get away from it, lovely ladies. We are in a battle because we belong to the Kingdom of God. It is antipathy to the kingdom of darkness. We are at war with the kingdom of darkness. We have it all around us. We have evil.  In this hour, the darkness is, I believe, getting darker.

It's like it says in Isaiah chapter 60:2: “And gross darkness is covering the earth.” There seems to be more and more evil and deception. But in the midst of this darkness, what does God tell us to do? To just sink into our homes and into our despair, and say, “Poor me!”

NO! It says to arise! And shine! This is what we have to do in this hour. We have to take up our armor as it talks about in Ephesians chapter 6. And we've got to put it on. We've got to fight. We have to fight the battles we face daily, fight the evil that is around us, and shine with the love of Christ. And shine with His truth. And shine brightly as the Scripture says.

Now one little thing more I want to say to you about being in the battle. That is, it is so hard to be in the battle on your own. But do you know, lovely ladies, God doesn't want you to be in the battle on your own. He wants others to come along and be with you. And He wants you to get alongside other, and be with them.

Because, although we are soldiers, because that's what we are called, the Word of God says that we are to endure hardness as a good soldier of Jesus Christ (2 Timothy 2;3, 4). But a soldier is not really a soldier on his own. Yes, he can be a soldier, but he's not in the battle until he gets together with all the other soldiers.

When there's a battle, they're all called. They have to get together. They've all been trained, and they know what to do. Now they come together to go and fight the enemy. We do have to come together to fight the enemy.

I was reading a while back and noticed this principle in the Word. I'm going to give you just two or three Scriptures. It's over and over again that we see it.

Judges 7:23: “And all the men of Israel gathered themselves together and pursued after the Midianites.” They just didn't go out, one person trying to fight the Midianites. They couldn't do it without an army. They had to come together as an army.

We see over in Judges 20:11: “So all the men of Israel were gathered against the city, knit together as one man.”

2 Samuel 12:29: “And David gathered all the people together, and went to Rabbah, and fought against it.” Do you get the picture? We can really only destroy the enemy when we gather together. There is power in corporate prayer. God wants us to be a people who unite together to pray, because then it is more powerful.

Yes, you can pray on your own. It is important to pray on our own. But, of course, we can pray as families. That's gathering together. That is powerful. The more you have in your family, the greater gathering that you have.

We love to do that in our home. Every morning, every evening, we gather, whoever is in our home and pray together. But then we can go even beyond that, and pray with others, even outside the home. Even in this hour in which we are facing this election, which has not yet fully been decided, we need to be praying. It's something that can only really be handled in real intercession and fighting in prayer.

So why don't you ask another family over to your home to pray with you? Or some other families? We gather families every night here and pray together over this election.

Let me just close with one Scripture, Leviticus 26. And this here, it's talking about war and chasing your enemies. In verses 7 and 8, it says: “And ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword. And five of you shall chase an hundred.”

You know, even five, mom and dad and three children, that's five, you can chase 100 enemies in prayer! Because that's the greatest weapon in war. But then it goes on to say: “And an hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword.”

The more you gather together to pray, to fight in prayer, the more enemies you will destroy. So be encouraged. Pray, but gather your family to pray. Then gather others to pray too. Amen?

Dear Father, we thank You that, Lord, You don't leave us in the dark. You show us that we're in a battle, Lord God. And we thank You that, as we have been going through Your Word, we see, Father, that You also are the God of battle.

Lord, You fight battles. You fight battles with us, Lord, and You want us to come alongside You and fight Your battles against all evil and wickedness and that which is an abomination to you, Lord God.

Oh, Father, help us to be faithful. Help us to be strong in the fight, Lord God. Help us, Lord, to not give up, as we continue, because You have said, Lord, that as we fight, we will destroy the enemy.

I pray, Father, that You will encourage each one listening today, encourage them in their faith, Lord God. Those who are feeling, Lord, down, and just helpless, I pray that You will lift them up, and You will strengthen them to fight the fight of faith, Lord.

We think of Paul, who at the end of his life, he was able to say, “I have fought a good fight.” Help us, Lord, to be continually fighting the good fight. In the Name of Jesus, Amen.

Blessings from Nancy Campbell

Transcribed by Darlene Norris

GOD FIGHTS FOR YOU SCRIPTURES TO LOOK UP:

Deuteronomy 1:30; Joshua 10:14, 42; 23:3, 10; Nehemiah 4:20; 2 Chronicles 20:17; and Zechariah 14:3.

 

PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 129: THE LORD, MIGHTY IN BATTLE

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FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS w/ Nancy Campbell

EPISODE 129: THE LORD, MIGHTY IN BATTLE

We continue discovering more of the twelve Hebrew words about God as a warrior. Every new generation must learn how to conquer and fight the enemy.

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, From Our Home to Yours, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies! Here I am again and continuing our study of how God is a man of war. Last time, we spoke about the first word, gibbor. Today, we'll go on to the second. Remember, I said I had found 10 different words. It's quite amazing how much God speaks about this subject in His Word.

MILCHAMAH

The second one is milchamah. It's found in many places, but here it's found in Psalm 24, verse 8. It's describing God again. I love descriptions of God, don't you? “Who is this King of glory? The Lord, strong and mighty, the Lord, mighty in battle.”

The word there is milchamah. This word, it means “fighting, engagement in battle, warfare, a warrior.” It's found 315 times in the Bible. It's translated “battle,” 151 times, “war,” 158 times, and “fight,” six  times, apart from a few other words as well.

It's interesting, you know. I wonder whether you have found this. When you look up a Hebrew word . . . you're reading our English Bible and you look it up in the Hebrew, you usually find that this word is not translated as the same English word throughout the Bible. Often, they use many different words to translate this same Hebrew word. That's why it's so great to go back to the Hebrew and find out all the different words that are used for that one Hebrew word.

Another description of God: Deuteronomy 4:34. This is how God brought the children of Israel out of Egypt. “Hath God assayed to go and take Him a nation from the midst of another nation, by temptations, by signs, and by wonders, and by war, and by a mighty hand, and by a stretched out arm, and by great terrors, according to all that the Lord your God did for you in Egypt before your eyes?” And so, God used war to help deliver the children of Israel.

Isaiah 42:13: “The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man.” That's the Hebrew word gibbor. “He shall stir up jealousy like a man of war (milcamah”). There's that same phrase that was in Exodus 15:3. God is a man of war. “He shall cry, yea, roar; He shall prevail against His enemies.” This is our God, dear ladies.

Exodus 17, verse 16 says:“ Because the Lord hath sworn that the Lord will have war with Amelek from generation to generation.” Now in the Bible, Amelek always relates to the flesh, to that which is evil, and to wickedness. This Scripture tells us that God fights against this in every generation. It will be every generation until He comes, because until He comes and rises up as a man of war, we will have evil and wickedness until God brings it into subjection.

Of course, in every generation, we have to learn how to fight wickedness, too. The Bible also tells us that our battles are God's battles. God's battles are our battles, and our battles are His battles. They are all mixed up together. When we're fighting a battle, God comes with us. When He's fighting a battle, He wants us to be in that war with Him.

So remember that. In fact, in Judges 3, verses 1-3, you can look it up later, God tells them how He allows some of their enemies to be there, so that each new generation will learn the art of war. Because unless they have opportunity to fight, they're not going to learn the art of war. So God allowed them to have battles so they could learn warfare.

We also have to do that. We, as you know, we all fight battles. We all have different things in our lives that we're fighting. We have situations where we know the enemy is coming in and we've got to fight.

We've got to learn how to fight. It will never go away. We'll always have to be fighting evil, and fighting principalities and powers, and fighting demonic forces, because we are in a fight in this world. It's a fight between the kingdom of darkness, and the Kingdom of God.

In Numbers 32, verses 20, 21, 29, it says: “.. . . if ye will go armed before the Lord to war, and will go all of you armed over Jordan before the Lord, every man armed to battle before the Lord . . . ” It's talking there about the two tribes and the half who were going to stay on this side of Jordan, before they crossed over.

God was saying to them, “You will have to go armed for war with the rest of your tribes to help them conquer the land. Then you can come back and possess this land.”

But I want to bring to you that little phrase, “before the Lord.” What does that mean? The word “before” is the Hebrew word panim. Panim means the Face of God. It's the word “face.” It 's usually plural, “faces.” So what it's really saying here is that God said, “I want you to go out armed for war with My Face upon you, in the Presence of the Lord.”

Now isn't that amazing? Sometimes we think of going out to war and facing a battle, “Well, that's just something we have to do ourselves.” No! We do it in the Presence of the Lord, with His Face watching over us. Isn't that beautiful? Take that, “armed before the Lord.”

The God's Word translation, it actually translates it perfectly. Did I write that down to tell you? I'm not sure whether I did. But anyway, it says that we are to go in the Presence of the Lord. It actually translates it that way.

IZZUZ

All right. So, number three, izzuz, in Hebrew. I just look up Hebrew words. This word means “forcible, an army, power.” It's used in Psalm 24, verse 8. Again, another description of God. “Who is this king of glory? The Lord strong (izzuz) and mighty.”

TSABA

Number four, which is tsaba. This is another very familiar word for “war” in the Bible. It's used 482 times. Wow! Yes, war is spoken about a lot in the Bible. It's actually used 261 times to describe God as “the Lord of Hosts.”

The Lord of Hosts. You've read that in the Bible so many times, but remember now, as you're reading it, whenever you read that phrase, it means “the Lord of the armies of heaven.” The Lord, Who is our warrior! The Lord, Who is the One Who commands the heavenly armies. He is the One Who fights for us! Yes! This is Who our God is, He is the Lord of Hosts.

We see this in verse 10 of Psalm 24: “Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, He is the King of glory.” Yes, He's the mighty warrior, the One Who fight for you, the One Who commands the heavenly armies.

Every time you read that phrase, read on to see what it's saying, because it's very important. The mighty warrior is speaking. But although this word is used about God, it's also used about us. It's used about men who are going out to battle many times, but it's also used of us women. Yes!

In Psalm 68, there's a couple of Scriptures here that tell a beautiful story. Verses 11 and 12: “The Lord gave the Word: great was the company of those that published it. Kings of armies did flee apace: and she that tarried at home divided the spoils.”

These Scriptures are talking about two armies. They're talking about the army of men who went out to fight the battle and to push back the enemyto protect their city and their land.

But it's also talking about the army in the home, the army of women in the home. You notice in verse 12: “she that tarried at home (she that dwelt in the home) divided the spoil.” When they came back in victory from fighting the enemy, the soldiers didn't say, “Well, here you go, you can have this because you stayed at home looking after the stuff and holding the fort while we were away.”

No! They realized the power of what they were doing, protecting the home, and caring for the children, holding down the fort, and doing everything that had to be done, even in the absence of the men. And they said, “Here it is, ladies! Here is the spoil! Take it! You divide it out. Divide it out among the families. Divide it out among the poor. We trust you to divide it out.”

They had complete control. But in verse 11, it says: “Great was the company.” That word “company” is this very word we're speaking about here, tsaba. The same word that is used to describe God, to describe Him as this great and mighty One Who goes out to war. It's the same word.

“Great is the company of those who published it.” It's in the feminine. Most translations will say: “Great was the army of women who published it.” So we see there the two armies, the one that goes out to fight the enemy, and the one who is fighting the enemy on the home front, right there in the home.

That's you, dear mother! You dwell in the home. But there may be enemies out there. There are enemies that seek to come to your home. There are enemies that want to get at your children. You have to be a warrior! You have to be a fighter. You've got to be one who is watching to protect your home. Amen?

Yes. And it's not just one or two. God wants a huge army of women in the home. You see, the word, this word, tsaba, it actually means “a mass of persons organized for an army, a multitude of warriors who go out to battle, a multitude of soldiers ready for warfare.”

The sad thing is, today, so many women have gone AWOL. They're not in their homes. They've left their station where God intends them to be—in  the home, watching over the home, fighting for their home, fighting for their children, fighting against the enemy so that they will not be taken over. No!

We need mothers in the home, fighting to protect their homes. Not just a few. God wants an army of mothers. Oh, may this revival come of an army of mothers returning to the home. Amen?

CHAYIL

OK, the next word, number five, chayil. This is another very common word for war and battle in the Bible. It means “an army, wealth, valor, virtue, strength, soldiers, war.” All those different words are used.

David called God this name in 2 Samuel 22:33, and verse 40. “God is my strength and power,” (my chayil). “For thou hast girded me with strength (chayil)to battle: them that rose up against me hast thou subdued under me.”

So, this word is used of God, and this word is used of valiant soldiers. Take time to read 1 Chronicles, chapter 7, and 1 Chronicles chapter 12. You'll read about all the mighty men of valor, all the chayil men. Oh, goodness me! You will love reading about them! I do love 1 Chronicles 12. Let me just perhaps go, and just read you one Scripture from it. You can read it all on your own.  You will love it. It's inspiring.

Verse 8 of chapter 12: “And of the Gaddites there separated themselves unto David into the hold to the wilderness men of might, and men of war fit for the battle, that could handle shield and buckler, whose faces were like the faces of lions, and were as swift as the roes upon the mountains.”

Wow! What an amazing description. Do you notice in only one Scripture, it uses three different Hebrew words for war and battle? It uses “might” and “war” and “battle.” So there we go.

Now  here's a beautiful Scripture that uses this word, chayil. Psalm 110, verse 3: “Thy people shall be willing in the day of Thy power.” That's chayil. “In the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning thou hast the dew of thy youth.”

Let me give it to you from the New English Translation. “Your people willingly follow you when you go into battle. On the holy hills at sunrise, the dew of your youth belongs to you.” The Bible commentary on the New English Translation explains that this refers to the king's army of strong youthful warriors.

It's talking about youthful warriors. David himself was a young man at this time. So many young men came to help him. They weren't old men. They were young men. The message of the Scripture is that they were willing warriors. They came to help willingly.

The God's Word Translation says: “Your people will volunteer when you call up your army.” The Holman Translation says, “Your people will volunteer on your day of battle.” The Passion Translation, I think, is most correct when it translates: “Your people will be your love offering.”

And that is absolutely correct, because the word willing, “thy people will be willing,” is the Hebrew word that means “spontaneous abundant, free-will offering.” It's exactly the same word that was used for the free-will offerings that the Israelites offered on the altar to God.

There were offerings that they were commanded to do, but there were offerings that were free-will offerings, that they did out of the willingness of their heart, because they just wanted to offer to the Lord. It's the same word that is used for those free-will offerings.

So these young warriors, they freely offered themselves to the Lord. When there was a battle, wow, they ran to the battle! Makes me think of that beautiful story of David himself, when he was facing Goliath. We all know the story so well.

But I notice in the story, did you notice before, when you were reading it in 1 Samuel 17? That's a chapter worth reading again. We all know the story, but my, it's great to read it again. When Goliath of Gath would come out and begin to roar at the people, and say, “Who can I fight? I want someone who will come and fight for me.”

And in, let's see, what verse was it? Yes, verse 24! It says, “The Israelites (and this was their army, these were the guys who were soldiers that were trained for fighting) they all fled from him and they were sore afraid.”

But what could young David do? He was only young. Some commentaries say he would have been about 17 years of age. Some make him a little older, 20 or 22. But I think perhaps 17 would be more correct, because they were not allowed to go into the army until they were 20 years of age and over.

David was not in the war. He went down to just visit his brothers, who would have been 20 years of age. Three of his brothers were there in the battle. So he was only young, whatever age he was.

But the Bible says that when the giant came near to him, “he hasted.” That means he hurried and ran! He ran headlong toward that army to meet the Philistines. Isn't that amazing? What a difference! These Israelites, who were supposed to be there fighting the Philistines, they all ran from the giant! But David, a young man, he runs to the giant! He runs right into the battle!

Oh, I just would love to think that we could have an army of young people, well, not only young people. Middle-aged people, and older people, everyone, of course, running into the battle. Oh, I know there are many, many young people today who are doing this. They're running into the battle.

How do they run into the battle? Well, of course, the biggest way we fight, dear ladies, is in prayer. And so, they're going to run to the prayer meetings. In fact, ”My people will be willing, in the day of battle.” We are in such a battle at this time in our nation. We are in a great battle that the whole world is facing. It's all at this time.

We are facing an election that has not yet been decided, an election that will go one way or the other, an election that will take us down a road of extreme socialism and communism. It will take us down a road of more and more babies being murdered, because this democratic party believes in abortion up til the day of birth, and afterwards, if the baby had been designated for abortion, and survived.

We will go down a path of more and more transgender. We will go down a path of darkness and lockdowns. This is what this party wants. They want lockdowns. They want the stopping of churches. They want our whole nation to lock down. They don't want singing in churches. They want us to be a masked people with social distancing. This is not how God intends us to live!

Or we have a party who believes in freedom, and believes in this nation, and wants to stop it being a socialist nation, and going down this New World Order. But it's a battle, and the battle is only won in prayer.

I believe this is an hour where every one of us, old, middle-age, young, no matter what age, should be running into the battle, running to prayer meetings. I'd love to think of our young people running to prayer meetings, being like David, running in to face the giant, running in to pray, and coming against the forces of evil. Because this is the greatest way that we are in the battle, in that place of prayer. Of course, we stand up against deception, we stand against all evil. We speak it out with our mouths, and we stand for our convictions.

We don't cave in. So many are caving in today. Even across the church, they're caving in to not going to church. They're caving into social distancing in church. They're caving in to not singing in church.

This is ridiculous! This is giving up! This is such wimpiness, because we have the freedom, we have the right with our Constitution. We have it by God! We have it in the Word of God!

We should not be bowing to these tyrannical things that they are putting upon us. It's worse than communism, just about, already. Help! If this democratic party gets in, where will we go?

But God says: “Thy people shall be willing in the day of battle.” They will be free-will offerings to run into the battle. To run to the prayer meetings. To run to stand up against all evil. Oh, my, this is a time like no other, to be in the battle. Amen?

Well, this word, although it's used for God, although it's used for valiant soldiers, this word is also used for us women! Yes! I wonder if you know where that is found? Of course you do. It's Proverbs 31, verse 10. “Who can find a virtuous woman? For her price is far above rubies.” The word “virtuous” is chayil!

It's exactly the same word that is used to describe these men of valor! It's amazing how the translators of the Bible, they used the words “valor, valiant, mighty, strength,” and all those great words to describe these men of courage and men of battle.

But then, when it came to the woman, and it's the same Hebrew word, they thought, “Oh, we'd better use a different word here.” And they used “virtuous.” Well, that's a wonderful word, but ladies, it does mean that we also are to have strength for the battle, because that's the word.

Once again, as I shared with you in our last week's podcast, how that we, God has chosen us, as mothers, to reveal His beautiful, gentle, and tender, and nurturing mother-like anointing. But He also wants us to be fighters. He wants us to be women of strength who will be strong for the battle!

Because as we raise our families, we face battles. I know you know that. I know many of you are facing this, in all different ways. We all face our battles in different ways.

But we do have to be strong for the battle. We also need to be strong in our faith, and in purity. Strong in embracing who God created us to be as women, to be the mothers of this nation. Strong in our convictions, and strong in holding to God's truth. We will not be deceived, and we will not cave in!

We will be strong to pray, and strong to fight the enemy, and every demonic force that comes against us and comes against our children. Amen?

I think of that wonderful word that Nehemiah gave to his helpers as they were building, rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem, because that's what you're doing mothers, you are building. YOU ARE BUILDERS. “Every wise woman buildeth her house, but the foolish plucketh it down with her hands” (Proverbs 14:1).

You are a builder! But as you're building your family, you will also have the attacks of the enemy along the way, as the builders did in Nehemiah's time. So they builded with one hand, and they held a weapon in their other hand. That's what we have to do. We build on one hand, and on the other hand, we pray and fight the enemy.

Nehemiah said in chapter four, verse 14, I'm reading now from the New Living Translation. “Don't be afraid of the enemy. Remember the Lord, Who is great and glorious, and fight. Fight for your brothers. Fight for your sons. Fight for your daughters. Fight  for your wives. And fight for your homes and your families.” We are in a fight, dear ladies. We can't get out of it. The enemy is around.

What does it say in 1 Peter 5, verse 8? “Be sober, be vigilant, because your enemy, as a roaring lion, goeth about, seeking whom he may devour.” That's what he's doing. He goes about. He's not the lion. Oh, no, no! We have the Lion of the tribe of Judah!

But he tries to be a lion. He just goes about as a lion. Sometimes he convinces us he is, but no, he's not the Lion. He just makes out he is. But he seeks to devour us.

The next verse goes on to say, “Whom we resist, steadfast in the faith.” We resist him. We will not allow him to take hold in any area in our family, in our home, in any one of our children. When we even begin to see anything, we will get into the battle in prayer, and we will get alone with our husband. We will say, “Come on, darling. We've got to pray about this together!” And you'll pray together and come against the enemy. Because we have to fight this battle.

I will close now with that Scripture in Daniel. Daniel 11, verse 32. This Scripture is in the context of persecution and deception. It says there, “BUT (it starts with a “but.” All this is going on around) “but the people who do know their God shall be strong and do exploits.” That is the King James version.

But if you go to the Hebrew, you find the word “exploits” is not there. It literally says: “But the people who do know their God shall be strong and DO.” It ends with DO. Of course, it really just means they will take action.

Most translations say: “and will TAKE ACTION.”

Some other translations say: “The people who do know their God will be strong and RESIST.”

Another translation says: “And the people who do know their God will be strong and FIGHT BACK.” Whatever one you want to take, they're all good.

But this is the hour not to cave in, not to be wimps, but to be who God wants us to be, fighters in God's battle. Because this is the battle. It's God's battle. We're fighting against wickedness, and fighting in spiritual places, and fighting principalities and powers.

So we will hold on, and we'll be in the fight, knowing that God is with us, because He's with us in the fight. We fight the battles of the Lord, and He fights our battles with us. Amen?

OK, and we haven't finished all these words yet! Isn't that amazing? God has so much to say. And I'm only just giving you just two or three Scriptures on each Hebrew word, when there are literally hundreds of Scriptures on each word! This is the Bible, ladies! OK? So let's pray.

Dearest Father, we come into Your Presence, and Lord, we thank You, that, even when we have to go to battle, and we have to go war against the enemy, that Lord, we go in Your Presence. We go in the Presence of the Lord. We don't fight on our own. You come, and You fight our battles with us, for the battle is the Lord's.

Oh, how we thank You, Father. I pray for every precious one listening today. Lord, I know that so many are facing battles in all different ways. Some, Lord, are facing battles in their bodies, and need healing, Lord. Just help them, as they fight the battle of faith, Father! Oh, God, strengthen them in their battle of faith, as they fight this good fight of faith.

Lord, there are others, who are facing the inroads of the enemy coming into their homes, touching their children. Oh, God, I pray that You will help them to rise up, Lord, in indignation, and they will take authority, for Lord, we read in 1 John that You came to destroy the works of the enemy. You now dwell in us, to destroy his works. We pray, I pray, Lord, that You will give them courage, and boldness, and You will help them in the fight against the enemy, in the name of Jesus,

I pray that You will help us all, Lord God, as we have this fight in our nation, at this moment, Lord. It's a spiritual fight. It's not a fight against flesh and blood and personalities. It's a spiritual fight between two kingdoms, the kingdom of God, and the kingdom of darkness.

And Lord God, we just cry out to You again today, Oh God, that righteousness will win, and Lord, that all evil will be exposed, and, Lord God, that You will save this nation from going down a road of extreme socialism.

Lord God, we ask this, and we pray, Lord, that there will be a whole new willingness to pray and enter the battle. And that people will be running to prayer meetings and organizing prayer meetings. And Lord God, we will fight this battle in prayer, in the Name of Jesus! Amen.

And I just want to encourage you, dear ladies, if you are in a battle, don't try and fight it on your own. Yes, God is with you, but you also need others. Just gather others to pray with you in the battle that you face.

We, at the moment, we have a precious family who are facing their . . . she is pregnant, but the diagnosis from the medical profession is not good. But we not taking that. We are gathering as a body each night to pray over this dear mother and her baby.

And this is what we have to do, ladies. We have to gather together and fight these battles together. If you have a situation in your life, gather some others to pray with you, even praying for this nation at the moment. Gather some others to pray with you. There is power in corporate prayer.

We only become an army as we join together. A soldier in an army is not a soldier on his own, until they all meet together, and go out and fight. Then they are an army. We have got to gather together to be a mighty army.

The Lord bless you.

Love from nancy Campbell

Transcribed by Darlene Norris

 

PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 128: WHO ARE YOU AS A MOTHER?

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FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS w/ Nancy Campbell

EPISODE 128: 

Who Are You As A Mother?

We have two powerful anointings as mothers. We are gentle and caring as we reveal our nurturing and mothering anointing. But we are also roaring mama bears as we protect our familiesand stand guard against the enemy. I talk about these anointings, and then we move on to discover the Scriptures about God as a “a man of war,” and the “mighty warrior.”

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, From Our Home to Yours, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies! Always lovely to be with you again. Today I'd like to talk to you about two aspects of motherhood. First thing, let me take you to John's description of Jesus in Revelation.

In Revelation, chapter 5, John is looking into the heavenly realm. Let's read verse two. “And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, 'Who is worthy to open the Book, and to loose the seals thereof?' And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the Book, neither to look thereon. And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the Book, neither to look thereon. And one of the elders saith unto me, 'Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the Book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.' And I beheld, and lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb...” A Lamb. “. . . a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent forth into all the earth.”

Now this is an amazing description, because when they proclaimed: “We found the One who can open the Book,” what did they say He was? “The Lion of the tribe of Judah.” But when John looked, he didn't see a Lion. What did he see? He saw a Lamb. “A Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

It is so true. Jesus is both the Lion and the Lamb. He is the Lamb Who came into this world to take away our sins. John the Baptist proclaimed that: “Behold, the Lamb of God, Which takes away the sins of the world!”

But Jesus is also the Lion. He is the One Who roars. There will come a time when Jesus Christ, King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, will arrive. In this time of grace, He has such longsuffering and patience as He waits for all men to come to repentance—for  that is God's heart, that all will come to repentance.

But there comes a time in history when He can wait no longer. And He rises up as a man of war. He rises up as a Lion, and He begins to roar. And He begins to go to battle, and to bring all into subjection unto Him.

But as we look at this, and as we see in Christ both the Lion and the Lamb, we see that also in our role as mothers. Because God inherently created us, as women, to have a nurturing anointing. Every one of us who are created female, we have from God, divinely from God, this nurturing anointing. We love to mother. It's just who we are as females. Not one female can get away from it.

Oh yes, there are so many in this society who have turned from motherhood. We have such a big feminist movement in our society today who have turned from motherhood, and that beautiful nurturing anointing. They think they don't have it. They think they've thrown it away.

But no, they can't get away from it. You look at those who refuse to have anything to do with children, who don't even want their own children. You will find that they will be mothering some kind of pet. They'll have a little dog. They'll have a little cat. They will have something they can mother. They may refuse to mother children from their womb, but they have to mother, because it's in them instinctively. It is in every female. This is the most beautiful anointing that is upon us, as women, this nurturing anointing.

It's not just something that we have, “Oh yes, this is us.” No, it's God-like. It comes from God Himself, because God is the Nurturer, and He's the One Who created the female to reveal to the world this aspect of Who He is.

We see this in one of the Names of God. God has many names and every name reveals another aspect of His character. One name is not enough to reveal all Who God is.

One of the beautiful salvation Names of God is El Shaddai. El meaning, “might and power and omnipotence.” Shaddai. This is a beautiful word that reveals a picture of God Himself as a nursing mother, one who wants to gather us in His arms, to comfort to us, to minister to us, and to nurture us.

This is Who God is. It's one of the aspects of His character that is to be revealed, for we are the image of God. Male and female are the image of God. God created male to reveal God in different ways, but He gave us this privilege, this beautiful privilege, to reveal the mother anointing of God.

It is such a beautiful thing to embrace, dear lovely wives and mothers. You may be in the thick of your mothering, and oh, just trying to care for all your children. Sometimes you just do it, because suddenly, not suddenly, but one by one, all these little ones have been added. And here you are with them.

But have you ever embraced who you are? Have you embraced this mother anointing? Because this is who you are. Every one of us have gifts from God. We can do different things. We have different gifts, different abilities. But mothering is actually who we are, who we were created to be.

If we just get rid of all societal programming and educational programming in our brains, if all that is taken away, well then, we get back to bedrock. And we know who we are. We have this nurturing anointing. It is beautiful. It is tender. It is mother-like. It is God-like. As we embrace it, we enter into the fullness of all we are meant to be as females.

I encourage you today, don't just do your mothering, Don't just get through every day. But embrace who you are, because you will find that when you embrace it, you walk in the joy of it, the fullness of it, all that God wants you to walk in.

I think, I always think this thought, “How sad to go through life, and not fulfill what you were born for.” Whatever you do in life, you were born to mother.

Maybe you are listening and you are not even married. Or perhaps you haven't been able to give birth to children. You are no less a mother! You have this nurturing anointing within you! Embrace it, and begin to reach out and nurture needy and lost souls and whoever God puts upon your heart. For whatever aspect you are in, whatever your situation, you are a mother.

Now, if you have children all around you, wow! You are really in the midst of it! But you won't even come into the fullness of it until you embrace it.

EVERY MOTHER LOVES HER CHILDREN BUT NOT EVERY MOTHER LOVES MOTHERHOOD

I often say to mothers, “Every mother loves her children, but not every mother loves motherhood.” This is the secret. I know you love your children. But there's something more. It's loving and embracing motherhood. For when you do that, you come into a whole new realm.

MOTHERHOOD TAKES COURAGE AND STRENGTH

Now, OK, we are, we have this beautiful, gentle, nurturing anointing. But, ladies, we do also have a lion-like anointing within us. Yes, God has put that in women too. We are not just little wimps! No, we are not! In fact, I often say, motherhood is not for wimps! It takes courage. It takes strength. It takes everything you've got to be a mother.

But you know, we see this, this other anointing, just as we see it in Christ, the Lamb, Who submitted Himself to the cross—but also the Lion, Who is the King. And so, we also see that in mothering.

We see it, even in the beautiful anointing of breastfeeding. When a mother is nursing her baby, she has these hormones. God is so incredible. Every breastfeeding mother has hormones that God gives to her, to help her in her mothering.

She has oxytocin. Oh, how I love that hormone! It's called the calming hormone, the bliss hormone, the love hormone. It has so many adjectives, because it's that glorious hormone that just brings such a calming to us.

God gives that to the nursing mother. When she puts the baby to the breast, the milk lets down, and oxytocin begins to work. Oh, and she's just feels that, ohhh, that sort of calming come all over her. That's why sometimes when you're nursing, you just drop off to sleep! You get sleepy! It's oxytocin and it's God refreshing you, even for those few minutes when you're nursing, so you can get up again and face the fray! It is so beautiful.

God also gives prolactin to the nursing mother. That is such a powerful hormone. It's a love hormone, too, but it's a very, very, strong hormone. It makes a mother become very, very protective. She can even become ferocious in protecting her child. It's a very protecting hormone.

They've done studies on animals in the wild who are nursing their young. They've found, while they're nursing their young, if any other animal comes near them, or maybe even comes to attack them, they will go into attack mode to save their little one. Because it's that protecting hormone.

I noticed this once when we had a little cat. It was just a wild cat. Out here in the country, it's kind of good to have a cat, because as it gets colder, the mice start to come in. It's great if you have a micer.

Well, we don't usually have one, unfortunately, because my husband doesn't really like cats around. He doesn't like them inside, because they scratch the furniture. Actually recently, I did pray upon him, and we did get another little kitten. Sadly, it didn't last long and got run over.

But back a few years, well many years ago, we had this little kitten. This little kitten, it had kittens. So my husband said, “OK we can't have all these kittens around. You'll have to get rid of them.”

Back in those days, you could go and stand outside Walmart, and hold your little kittens, and people would take them. So I did that, but I kept one. This kitten, she was really still not much of a cat. She was just a wiry, skinny little thing. But she was nursing this kitten, the last one that she had, because the others were given away.

Anyway, she just kept nursing this kitten. The weeks went by and I didn't stop her. She just kept on, and this little kitten of hers began to grow sleek and fat. I was just amazed at how beautifully this little kitten grew.

One day Pearl came by. Her children were little then, and she said, “Mum, we're going away. Can you look after our dog?”  I said, “Yes, no problem.” So they bring the dog in, and off they go. We wave good-bye.

Well, it wasn't long, and all of a sudden, there was barking and meowing and hissing and wow! What is happening? This dog and cat were fighting! I thought, “My, what has happened?” Anyway, we managed to separate them, tie the dog up, and things went back to normal. So we had to keep this dog tied up.

Next day, Serene walked over for a little visit. She had with her a little puppy. Well! It was hardly a few moments, and fighting began again! Barking and hissing and meowing and screaming, and whoo, I thought, “This cat has got rabies! What's happened to it?”

Oh my, it was just terrible! So we eventually separated this cat and dog. Serene went home with her dog, and things went back to normal again.

Oh, I was wondering about this kitten! What happened? Well, the next day, Serene came over again, minus her dog. We were sitting outside, having a cup of tea, and I looked over and there was this kitten, just so calmly nursing her little kitten,

Suddenly I realized, “Of course! No wonder she is fighting every dog that comes near! She's got prolactin! She is fighting to protect her little kitten. And look out, any other animal that comes near!” It was so powerfully expressed in this situation.

Anyway, time went on. Of course, she weaned this other kitten and when prolactin was gone, every dog in the neighborhood would turn up, as they do out here in the country, and she never even sort of hardly lifted her eye. It was only when she had the prolactin.

That's rather amazing, isn't it? But God has, not only while we are breastfeeding, no. We also have this protective anointing that we will rise up and fight against anyone, or anything, that would hurt our children, in the physical, and in the spiritual. ecause, if we are walking with God, dear mothers, we will also be watching in the spiritual realm. We'll be watching things that can come into our homeor that can begin to affect our children. We will rise up to fight against the enemy.

Often, it's not flesh and blood we're fighting, but we're fighting principalities and powers. We have to fight in prayer. Dear mother, we have these two things as mothers. I want you to know today that you have both of them, and embrace both of them.

Yes, you have this tender, nurturing, God-like, mother anointing. But you also have this lion-like anointing within you to protect your children, physically and perhaps even more, spiritually. God has given both of these to us.

As I've been thinking about this, I've been thinking about who God is like. You know, I mentioned before, that God has many, many names, because one name is not enough to describe Who He is. Every character of God, He has it one hundred percent.

Sometimes, we find it difficult to know how to work this out in our lives. How do we show mercy? And yet, how do we show justice at the same time? Do we have 50% of each? How do we work it out?

Sometimes it's difficult, in our experience, to work this out. But God is complete in every area. He is completely a God of love, completely and wholly and totally a God of mercy and compassion.

But He is also completely a God Who is a man of war. Dear ladies, I beg your pardon. Did I actually say, “A man of war”? Yes. That is what the Scripture tells us. We go back to Exodus, chapter 15, verse 3. In fact, Exodus 15 is the beautiful song, the Song of Moses that they sang. Remember how Miriam led the whole of Israel with her tambourine? And they danced, and they sang. Read this psalm over again. Well it is a psalm, but it's actually Exodus 15. It's so glorious.

In verse three, it says: “The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is His Name.” As He delivered the children of Israel out of Egypt, He had to rise up as a man of war. He could not deliver them if He just perhaps lived in his rest, which He is. He's a God of rest, God of love, the God of love. He came down as a God of mercy. He came down to the people of Israel in their time of such servitude, and all they were going through.

But he rose as a man of war against the Egyptians. Let's just read a little more of what God did there. “Pharaoh's chariots and his host has He cast into the sea:” Now this is not saying that Moses did this. No, they didn't do it. They had no way. They were stuck! They had no way out! But God did it. Yes. “His chosen captains also are drowned in the Red Sea. The depths have covered them; they sank into the bottom as a stone. Thy right hand, O Lord, has become glorious in power: thy right hand, O Lord, hath dashed in pieces the enemy.”

That's God. Oh, wow! Does that sound like God? Yes? We have to understand, lovely ladies, Who our God is. We cannot put God in a box, and say, “This is the God that I believe in. I believe in this God of love, this God of tolerance, Who, you know, He loves everybody, and He doesn't mind if they sin a little bit.”

No! That's not the God of the Bible. We have to read His Word to know Who He is. He's also a God of war. And here he dashes in pieces the enemy. “And in the greatness of Thine excellency Thou hast overthrown them who rose up against thee: Thou sentest forth Thy wrath, which consumed them as stubble. And with the blast of Thy nostrils, the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea.” And so it goes on and on.

This word, “The Lord is a man of war” is the Hebrew word gibbor. Of course, it's used many, many other times in the Bible. In Jeremiah 32:18 is another description of God: “The Great, the Mighty God.” “The mighty,” yes, that's gibbor as well. “The Mighty God, the Lord of Hosts is His Name.”

I have actually, dear ladies, found 12 different Hebrew words that relate to war and fighting. Almost of these words are all used, also, to describe God. Now, can you believe it? I think we'll have a little look at them. I think it is good to understand the whole counsel of God, not to just see one aspect of truth, or one aspect of God. We have to understand it all.

Before I move on to another one, I love this Scripture in Psalm 89, verse 19, it says here: “I have laid help upon one that is mighty;” There's that word again, gibbor. Now this time, it's not used of God, but it's used of a man. We find, in all these words that I am going to show you, they are used to describe God, but they're also used to describe us.

I'm always amazed about this in the Bible. There are so many words that are used for God but that He also uses for us! Have you noticed that? It's amazing. So . . . “The Great, the Mighty God,” I told you about that word.

We're up to Psalm 89:19: “I have laid help upon one that is mighty. I have exalted one chosen out of the people.” Who is this person? It goes on to say, “I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him.”

This is speaking about David, but it is also a Messianic prophecy, speaking of Christ. David was a type of Christ. So here He says that He has laid His hand, He's laid help upon this mighty one.

When God was looking for a leader, for a king for the children of Israel, He looked for a warrior. He didn't look for someone, “Now let Me find someone who, oh, yes, he will be very plausible. You know, he'll be able to speak to the people nicely, and he'll be tolerant, so everybody will be happy.”

No! God looked for a warrior. In fact, most translations say: “I raised a warrior.” Why does God raise up a warrior? Because He needed a man who would be able to conquer all the enemies that were surrounding Israel. Because there was coming a time when God wanted a reign of peace.

He would raise up David's son, Solomon, to build the Temple, the sanctuary where God would dwell. God needed a time of peace to build that sanctuary. In fact, it was actually David's, it was his vision to build this Temple for God. Oh, how he dreamed of it! Night and day, it was his passion.

But God came to Him one night, well maybe it was the day, through the prophet, and said, “The Lord is telling you, David, that you are not going to build this Temple. You have been a man of war. You've been a man who has shed blood. I am going to raise up a man of peace. I'm going to raise up your son to build the Temple.”

But God goes on to say something very beautiful. I love this. “And God said to David, 'But David, it is good that it is in your heart.'” God saw his heart. God saw David as though he actually built the Temple himself, because he saw the vision in his heart.

Dear ladies, there may be some of you today, you have a vision to do something for God, and that maybe you've held onto it for years. It's still hasn't come to pass. Well, maybe it will. But maybe the vision is for someone else. But God sees your heart. And God says, “It's good that it's in your heart.” And so, be encouraged by that. When you have a passion in your heart, God sees it as though you've actually done it, even if the way doesn't open for you to do it.

But as we think of how God raised a warrior, He needed a warrior, a conqueror, and David was the man of war who went out. He was an amazing, incredible soldier. Oh goodness, I remember one time reading, I haven't got the reference here today, but the Philistines came against him. It was David and only one other. All of David's army fled, and it was only David and one other standing there in that field, and they took on the Philistine army on their own and pushed them back. He was just such an amazing warrior!

But I actually think of how we're facing a little bit of that situation today, when we have a President that God gave to us in 2016. There have been so many people, sadly, even Christians, who are... They don't really like him.

They think, “Oh dear, oh dear, he's, you know, he's just too much of a warrior!” Yes, because he is a warrior. He knows how to fight. “He just says things that he shouldn't say. He should be more tolerant. And he should be more presidential,” and so on.

But you know, dear precious ladies, we didn't need someone like that. We needed a warrior. There's only one man who can, because God  has raised him up. I believe God  raised him up to stand against this whole world, one-world take-over, and this whole push to extreme socialism and communism. That is, if the new... The democratic party got in, if they do.

Although they're saying that he is the President-Elect, it is far from true. They are still counting in this election, and we all know that more and more and more fraudulent voting is coming to light every day. It is unbelievable! It is just beyond anything that's ever happened in the history of our nation. It is huge. I don't know how much you have read, but oh my, there's even more behind the scenes that hasn't even yet come out of how fraudulent this election has been.

But nothing is in stone yet. We need to  be praying with all our hearts, because if these people get in, we go down a road that takes us toward toward communism. There will be no more freedom in this nation. We have one man who is standing against that. He is a warrior. I believe God raised him up, and I believe we should be praying for him.

Anyway, perhaps I will end this session, before I start on our new word. Next session, we will look at some more words that are related to God and even to us, about war and fighting.

Yes, here we are, mothers, and we're going to talk about war and fighting. But it is part of God's character, and as we have learned today, it's also part of us. We also have to rise up to be fighters, fighters in the spiritual realm, for our families.

Dear Father, We thank You so much for Your Word. For without Your Word, we would be in our own little world, and what we think is best. And Lord God, we wouldn't even know what You are like. For Your Word opens up our whole understanding, to know Who You truly are.

We thank You, that You've created us to be tender, nurturing mothers. But we thank You, that You've also put a fighting spirit within us, to protect our children, and our families. We pray that You will teach us how to do this, Father. We ask it in the Lovely Name of Jesus. Amen.

Transcribed by Darlene Norris.

PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 127: MAKING FAMILY LIFE FUN

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FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS w/ Nancy Campbell

EPISODE 127: MAKING FAMILY LIFE FUN

Jessica Ajayi joins me again today. We discuss more about life learning, how to enjoy your children, fun things to do with your children, and how to free yourself into passionate, enjoyable, adventurous, and restful mothering.

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, From Our Home to Yours, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, lovely ladies! I'm here again today, and Jessica is back with me. I know you're going to enjoy listening to her again today. Remember, Jessica has an Instagram called Beautiful_Motherhood. I know you will love going to that.

Now, Jessica, last session we were talking about some of the things that your children have learned to do. How at a young age, they've been learning to build whatever they want to build and make for themselves. What about some other things? What can your children cook? Are they any good at cooking? Have you ever taught them that?

Jessica: Yes. So they know how to cook. They know how to bake. They can make bread. They can . . .

Nancy: They do it all by themselves. You can say, “OK, I just want you to make the bread.”

Jessica: Well, we use the same principles as in any other area, when we teach them to first, to do it with me, literally for a year. Every time when I make it, they would come, and I would invite them to knead the dough.

Nancy: And you just don't do anything on your own, while the children are doing something else. You'll say, “Come on, children. We're making bread. Let's do it together!” So they learn, and that's how you do it.

Jessica: Yes. And they're excited. It's not something like, “Oh, no, not again!” They look forward to help. They actually feel important. “Mommy has invited me, like I can do something!”

And then as they get older, I will ask them to do things by themselves. First little things, maybe to make the cookie dough. Then later on, a bread recipe, which I find is still pretty easy.

Nancy: What kind of bread do you make in your home?

Jessica: We make whole grain bread. Sometimes we used sprouted wheat. Sometimes we use spelt flour. They know how to grind the flour from grains that we buy. Then they know how to make it rise and put the yeast and the baking powder. Or how to use sourdough. We make a variety of breads.

Nancy: That's so nice. So, what about cooking a meal? Have they got to that stage yet?

Jessica: Yes. So I actually, over the years, collected all our favorite recipes. And then I made beautiful recipe books. One for just foods, and then another one for sweets, sugar-free sweets that we like to make. And then I have the picture of our food, the ones that we cook together.

It's a collection book of the recipes from our memories too. I put little colorful designs on the pages. They each have access to the book. As they grow older, they will each have a copy of it.

I teach them how to make it, and then they have the recipes in hand. They can look up what ingredients they maybe not remember, or how to make something.

Nancy: Have you ever been able to say, “OK, I want, maybe Samuel and Priscilla, will you make the meal tonight?” Will they be able to do that?

Jessica: Yes. Priscilla, she has made many Friday dinners. She's made lentil dahl soup that we all really enjoy. There's a variety of other recipes too that they know how to make.

Nancy: She's only just turned 10, hasn't she?

Jessica: Yes.

Nancy: That's so great! Let me see, what else, I wonder, do you do in your home? Oh, can you think of other things that you've taught your children? What about certain things that you like to make? Tell us about them.

Jessica: Yes, so there was a phase where I was into making cheese. I would just take them along. I actually went to a farm and somebody taught me how to make it. It took all day. The kids would pop in and out. It was too much for them. But then, when we had to make it at home, and I got to work in the kitchen, they came along.

We male cheeses together. We make soap together, completely from scratch. I literally got tallow from a butcher and made everything from scratch. They weren't there the whole entire process, but many times throughout the process.

They like especially when the soap was done, and we got to re-mill it and add lavender, or other herbs. They could actually stir and melt them, and combine the ingredients, and pour them into molds.

Nancy: And they like to use it. I guess they think it's so cool when they made it themselves.

Jessica: Yeah, and they are proud of it, too! There's a sense of achievement, “I've accomplished something. We have made our own soap!” Or “I've cooked this meal!”

Nancy: Yes, that's so great. And what about sewing?

Jessica: Yes. Well, I am a practical sewer. I don't yet have time for just sewing things for beauty. Whatever practical project I have . . . one of the things is that we make our own pillows. We fill them with buckwheat hulls. Once a year, we use pillowcases, but still once a year, I try to refill them. It's literally just sewing a square with our serger. The children know how to sew straight lines, so they can help with that.

We also make for ourselves, we wanted to . . . we live and rent, so we wanted to have a container garden. I have lots of outdoor fabric. We sewed that into bags and then filled it with dirt for portable containers to plant some of our garden in. So they have to sew the bags.

Nancy: That's interesting. So great! That is just so wonderful. I love the way that you make education be life skills. So I think you like to, you have your own passions, too, don't you?

SHOW YOUR CHILDREN HOW TO LEARN

Jessica: Yes. I'm passionate about just living more regenerative. I'm a person of many passions, I guess. There are many things I'm interested in. This is one thing that I wanted to share here. A couple of years ago, that was a real revelation to me.

I wanted to then, I had thought that it was a little like me, pouring in from my bucket into my children. In some way, also, giving up, and putting myself on hold, and what I was really interested in. And doing it all for the children and putting them into the center.

But then I read something. It kind of totally shifted my paradigm in that area for me. I read about how you can lead your children, and inspire your children, when you, yourself, are doing something. Like when you are passionate about learning new things.

I like to write, and I put that aside for a long, long, time. Because I said “Well, I don't have a lot of time for it.” But when I started doing little things, and writing, then my children, too. My daughter, she started wanting to write too, or just sit next to me, and write too.

You see, it's inspiring when they see you do something. I started realizing that I can best inspire my children when I pursue things in my own life too. So when I'm excited to read books about things I want to learn, then . . . They don't have to learn everything that I'm learning, but they see me learning. That's inspiring.

Nancy: They want to learn too! So they want to get a book to find out what they're interested in.

Jessica: Yes, because to them, I model that when I want to find something out, or when I want to become something, then this is the way you do it. Then you go ahead, and you learn. I watch videos, or I take a course, or I read books, or I meet with somebody, or invite somebody into our home to share with us, or to show us things.

So to them, it's like creating this pathway in their mind, this is how learning looks like. This is how we switch from just me trying to fill their buckets for the moment, getting them to learning all these academics, then having fun the rest of the day. To really making it a focus of inspiring the desire to be a life-long learner.

DISCUSS  THINGS TOGETHER AT THE TABLE

Nancy: Yes. That's what it's all about. Education is preparing them for life, giving them an excitement about learning. I think we have to get rid of that concept that our children go to school for a certain number of years. Because that's not how it's meant to be. It's meant to be that we learn life.

We keep learning, and we're going to keep learning every day of our lives! I know many of you homeschoolers, I think you learn so much as you're homeschooling your children. In fact, what we impart to others is really what we keep. So we are imparting to the children, and then we need to encourage them to pass on their skills too. Because the more they pass on, the more they're going to keep. That's a little blessing circle.

I think if we teach our children this way, and we're not just thinking, “Oh, they just have to do these certain books, and they've got to get through these particular lessons.” So many times, it can be so boring to them.

Of course, there's certain things that they must have a basic knowledge in, and they must know. We have to encourage that discipline to know those things, but we also need to give them that opportunity of learning while they're doing and learning while they're going. And learning while they're sitting talking to us. And just learning for life.

A great idea is, when you're having suppertime in the evening, and you're all around the table together. You love to have family conversation. I think that's a very important thing that we do remember that when we have a meal, when we have supper with our children. It’s not only to feed them some food for their hungry tummies.

At the table, we don't only feed our children physically. We feed their soul, and their spirit. We feed their soul as we have that communication together. We talk with one another. To do that, we need to be purposeful, because otherwise I find that, sometimes, if you're not purposeful, the conversation doesn't go anywhere. You talk about nothing.

Sometimes you have to ask a question. Other times, you bring a subject to the table and say, “Children, what do you think about this?” And get them to talk about this subject, which could be something from the Bible, or political, or spiritual, or geographical, about some country, or whatever. Or just some interesting thing.

But here's a good little question for homeschoolers. You could say to your children and do it every now and then. “Now, children, I want every one of you to tell me something new that you have learned today.” So we go round the table, and each child has a turn, plus Mommy and Daddy, because they want to hear from us, too! And we can't be excused.

So we each have to tell something new that we have learned. Because I'm a great believer in learning something new every day. What about you, Jessica?

Jessica: Yes, very much.

Nancy: I think that's a great goal to have, to learn something new every day. Not to get through your lessons because you can get . . . Children can go through their lessons and they haven't remembered one thing!

So, we get around the table, “OK, children,” and each one has a turn. Now, if each of your children cannot tell you something new that they have learned, well, it might be a good idea to change your way of teaching. You see, we're better to learn just one new thing, than try and have a whole lot of lessons. It's such a . . . Learning something that becomes part of you. That's real education.

When they can share about it, then it will become even more part of them, when they share about it, and communicate it. Maybe you could integrate that into your whole vision for your educating of your children. And for yourself. 

Learn as a family. Myself, and each of the children, just seeking to learn, just one new thing every day. Even if it's one new word. Sometimes it will be a practical thing, other times it may be some little snippet of knowledge.

Or even a new word to teach your children in their vocabulary. Because that's another thing, we don't want our children to become dumbed down. We want them to be advancing, also, in their vocabulary. What do you think about that, Jessica?

Jessica: Yes, I agree. So we actually also have a daily time where we discuss. We try to have family meals. Well, we and our family try to have family meals three times a day.

Nancy: Absolutely! Amen!

Jessica: In the morning and evening. Most of the time, in the morning, my husband is there, too. He shares from the Scriptures. We discuss, discuss not in the sense of questioning, not in the negative sense. We discuss, what is God speaking to us? Sometimes we look up the specific word. We find that it's really guiding our conversation.

We also have book discussions where we read together as a family, we read a classic together. Then we talk about it. It's a great way to guide conversation at home, and to re-instill and re-affirm values that we live. We can talk about, “Oh, what do you think about how they handled this situation? Would you have liked to be with this grandfather?”

All kinds of things can come up in these conversations. We get to really, I think, live the lives of others, and see through the eyes of others, and learn so many lessons by doing this.

Nancy: Oh, yes! That's so true. Often, I will say . . . Of course, my children are all grown, and I would do this from time to time when they were growing up. Not all the time, but even now, when I have a few young people living in our home, I will say, “All right, this evening I want you to bring a poem to the table to read.”

Maybe sometimes it would be that everyone has a turn. Other times, I would ask one particular person to bring a poem to read at the table tonight.” They can read it, say why they chose it and like it, and we can all discuss it.

You can think of lots of little things you can do. Maybe even a book they're reading. Ask them “OK, Johnny, tonight, you know that book you're reading? I want you to find one paragraph in that book that you really like and read it to us tonight at the table.” Then you can all talk about it.

You can think of loads of things like that to do. You can even spice up your meal tables and make them more exciting too. Do you have any different things you do at meal tables? Of course, apart from your family devotions and the Word of God. Because that's when we get to the end of our meal and feed the spirit of our children, which is the most important part. But communication and conversation are very important. There are so many fun things we can do to spice that up. Do you do anything like that?

Jessica: Well, one thing I like to do, and this is not so much about talking. It's more about presenting. In Germany, we have this thing, “I eat with you.” So I make it a thing to make every time our family table to make it beautiful.

I'm not so much of a tablecloth person, but we do tablecloths. We try to do it in the evening. But still, we decorate our table. We put fresh fruits, even just for decoration, in between our foods and sometimes the kids bring flowers and leaves.

They get excited about us spending that time together. We all make it in a way that we can stay together for the entire meal. It's like our family time together. It’s not just to grab food.

Nancy: That's right

Jessica: You know, to be together.

Nancy: Yes. And I think if you think of these little extra things, that it helps them to want to stay and talk about them. I think it's great when the children themselves are actually decorating the table.

We can get them to have turns, you know. OK, it's their turn for tonight. Or maybe they have a week where it's their turn. They can think of all the most creative things that they want to bring each night. They can bring something different to the table to decorate it, or to put on it as something. “OK, I want us to talk about that tonight.”

So let's be creative. Always think about new things that we can do. I think that's a great fun thing to do for the table.

ENCOURAGE THE CHILDREN TO PLAY CREATIVELY

Getting back to little ones, because you've got all ages, you've got 12, 10, 6, and 3, little Miriam, she's just little. I think at that age, they love to play. To me, play is a very important thing for children. I used to love to give my children opportunity to play creatively. Just to enjoy playing.

They didn't . . . not so much with toys. I think toys are so boring. I mean, what do you do with this toy? You have to just sort of play with it, then you're sick of it after a few minutes.

But actually, I used to love to watch my children. They would be so intent. I can remember when Serene was a little girl. Sometimes she'd have her friend over. They would rearrange my whole lounge and dining room. They would get all the chairs and line them up because it was going to be a train.

They had all these things that they were doing. Maybe they would be making a castle. I would always keep two things. I always kept in my home. One was a dress-up box. I still have my dress-up box, because the children love to dress up. Of course, the girls, they love to dress up as princesses.

I didn't always have beautiful princess dresses for them. I had curtains, and old sheets, and material. Oh goodness me, they could just make themselves look amazing! And creative. But you know, the girls were still a princess or a queen. They'd dress up like that.

I'd have another place where they'd have old sheets and eiderdowns which they could use and get out to make huts and castles. Of course, they'd have to get all my furniture and chairs around to fix them. Sometimes they'd play for a whole morning, getting ready to make it for something special. By the time they had finished creating, they were so worn out. I'd give them lunch, and they'd go to bed to sleep.

But their being so busy working on this thing, that it was play, but it was really . . . it was intense work! What do you think about play?

Jessica: Yeah. Well, I'm fascinated sometimes when I watch my children. They spend forever making this great fort, and then by the time it's done . . .

Nancy: They don't play in it!

Jessica:  They are done!

Nancy: They don't actually ever play in it! The whole work, well, actually, it was work. But play is meant to be work, and work is meant to be play. It was all getting it, making it, wasn't it? That's what my children would do. They'd be worn out when they were finished, but never actually played in the thing. Or ever play in the special hut they made. But oh, they spent hours preparing it.

Jessica: Yes, yes. When I was a young mother, we used to buy a lot of toys and all kinds of stuff, things. Because we wanted, after three miscarriages, we wanted the best of the best for our child. But the truth is, he never really played with any of it.

All he played with, he would take down part of the little plastic table, and he would remove the legs and stick them together and make a little pretend, like a leaf floor. He would go around and put the Hoover pipe on it and pretend he was going to blow the leaves in the neighborhood.

Over the years, we really downsized on toys. Our children have never really missed anything, Sometimes I'm scared to see that we don't really use toys, because it seems weird in our society today. There's so many for sale.

But the things my children enjoy to play with most, is sticks, blankets, balls, and anything they can make themselves. And when they are little, they love to have my pots and bowls from the kitchen .

Then when I put some little rice in there, or some little flour, or even sand, and maybe, what, it depends on how ready I am for another day for mess. Just to put it there and give them some mixing spoons, oh, they can spend hours, to fill it from pot to pot to pot and stir it and pretend to cook it and serve it into little bowls.

PLAY IS WORK AND WORK IS PLAY

Nancy: Yes, and cardboard boxes, and things like that. It's amazing what they can make with these things. They are very creative if we give them the opportunity. I've got a few quotes about play here.

“Play is our brain's favorite way of learning. The opposite of play is not work. It's suppression.” Because that is true, I believe. I find you can be working so hard, but if you love what  you're doing, it's like play, isn't it? That's what life is meant to be like. We're meant to, as we work, it's just such fun, that we're really playing!

In fact, I think that we should even see our motherhood like this. Not, “Oh, it's hard work.” I just can't believe the attitudes that many mothers have, that they always seem to have this very negative thing. “Oh, I'm so overwhelmed! It so hard work.”

I believe we've just got to change our attitude! See, motherhood is fun! You have children around you who love to have fun! They want life to be fun. They love to play. Also, as they see you, where you are, what are you doing? Even the dishes, even the work of cleaning around the house. See it as play. You can make work into play. It all depends on your attitude. Work can become playing. Play can become work.

Another quote says: “You've achieved success in your field when you don't know whether what you're doing is work or play.” I love that one.

“Children come into the world exquisitely designed, and strongly motivated to educate themselves. Coercion undermines their natural desire to learn.”

Oh, that is so true. Our children do love to learn. And they love to learn what they're interested in. If it's something that is not related to them, it's often too hard to get them really motivated. But they will be motivated to do anything that they're interested in. That takes sighting. As we let them do that, we begin to see where their bent is, and where their giftings are. Each one will be so different.

Let me see, what else have I got here? “We don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we stop playing.” That's a famous one, isn't it? But yes, this is what you were saying, Jessica. Children don't need more toys. They need more adventures. Yes! I know you love to take your children on adventures, don't you?

Jessica: Yes, I'm an adventurer myself. But it wasn't always like that. Or I should say, I didn't always allow myself to be an adventurer, even as a mother.

In my early years, I thought that I had to fit into a certain mold of mother. Like my house had to look a certain way, and I had to do certain things. I felt like there were all these outside expectations. But really, they were just in my mind.

There was really nobody who came and said, “Well,  you should have a different set of dishes.” Or “Your house should be looking like this or that.” They were just things that I put onto myself.

Sometimes we end up comparing ourselves so much to others that we lose our own selves. It's so important to discover, or rediscover, who we are. What makes us play. You know, for me, doing projects is play. Maybe it's not for you. Maybe art is play. Or maybe music is play. We don't all look the same, so our motherhood and our homeschooling too, will not look the same.

Nancy: Yes. Oh, Jessica, you've hit on something that is so true. Dear precious ladies, you don't have to mother like everyone else! You mother according to who you are, and who God created you to be. That's how you will mother the best.

I look at my own daughters. Many of you have got to know them through Above Rubies, and of course, through Trim Healthy Mama. But I look at the way Evangeline, the way Pearl, the way Serene have mothered their children through the years.

And each one of them, they mother differently from each other. I mean, those three girls are the greatest ,closest friends, they're not just sisters, they're friends! But they are all so different! And they all mother so differently. They all run their homes so differently. Each one of us are different.

The things that . . . I have to give you a little confession here. I actually don't like playing board games. They bore me to tears! I'd rather be doing something constructive.

And yet, so many people just love them! And that's so great, and they have wonderful times with their families playing board games. So if you love that, you just make it a wonderful thing with your family.

I just had to do it out of kindness. Well, yes, you have to do it. I didn't like it. But there were other things that I love doing! So I would love doing them with my family. The things that you love doing are going to be more fun that you do with your family, because you love doing them, so you want to put more passion into them. Isn't it true?

Jessica: Yeah, I think one lesson that was very important for me to learn was to move away from motherhood obligations to motherhood passion. It's a choice. It's a choice. It's a choice for us to embrace motherhood.

I’M NOT GIVING UP ANYTHING TO BE A MOM

It took me a while to realize that I'm not giving anything up to be a mom. I'm not missing out on anything. But actually I'm set free to spend that time to have the greatest impact on the lives that are being entrusted to me during that season.

But also to go through a phase of becoming, because I think children, the best way to disciple children, is childhood. And then spend within the setting of the family. The best place for us to be discipled as parents, as adults, is really parenthood, motherhood, and fatherhood.

Because that is where we see what is really important in life, areas we need to grow into, the importance of guarding, discovering who we really are, and what we stand for. What we enjoy doing. What are our gifts to the world? And then to learn to live them, and to grow into them. Yeah.

Nancy: Yes, so lovely. Thank you,  Jessica, for all these beautiful things you have shared with us. We've been talking about life learning and how wonderful it is.

Of course, in all our life learning, we're going to be bringing God into it all, because He's part of every part of life. He's part of play, He's part of nature, He's part of everything little thing they learn, everything that we want to teach them, God is in it, so He will be preeminent in everything we're teaching them. Of course, underlying all these wonderful things, and projects, and life learning, we're going to teach our children, we will also make sure that we are diligently, and richly, filling them with God's Word.

That also doesn't happen in great big lessons. No, even God's Word, He wants us to do it, little by little. That's what He says: “I want you to teach My Word diligently to your children.” When? When you rise up. When you're sitting down and talking together. When you're riding in the car. When you're lying down. Whatever you're doing, it's just part of life.

So we've got to get the Word into us, so that we've got it there to be able to teach to our children at any moment. I love these words in Isaiah 28:9-12, “Whom shall he teach knowledge? And whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk and drawn from the breast. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little.”

That's a beautiful concept. You see, God is showing here the greatest way to learn is just, here a little, there a little. Precept upon precept. Just a little precept, but then another one on top of it. And another one on top of it. It's all going in. But it's just little by little.

And then it goes on to say, “This is the rest, and this is the refreshing.” This is the way to teach our children that is restful and refreshing. That's how He wants us to be. He wants it to be a refreshing thing for us, a refreshing thing for our children. So He shows us the way to do it. Little by little, line upon line, precept upon precept.

So you don't have to get bogged down and think, “I have to get through every one of these lessons today!” No! Live life and teach at the same time. Any last little to thing to add, Jessica, as we close?

Jessica: Yes, well, I learn as much every day, both through the Scripture and also the life we live, and the lessons we go through, as much as they do. So we learn alongside each other.

It's not that I know it all, and they learn. But even when we go through the Bible, I learn as much as they do. That really is what makes learning fun, and family life together like this fun.

Nancy: Amen!

Oh, thank You, Father, for the way You show us how to nurture our children and raise our children. We thank You that it is such a beautiful thing, to enjoy them, to live life with them, to do things together with them.

Oh, God, I pray that, Lord, the precious mothers who feel very bogged down with all the responsibility, that You will lift them up, and You will give them a vision of how to enjoy their children, Lord, just as You do.

It tells us in your Word how You rejoice over us with singing. You delight in us, Lord. Help us rejoice over our children, to delight in them. And to enjoy teaching them and living life with them. That it will become our rest and become our refreshing. We ask it in the precious Name of Jesus. Amen.”

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Jessica has two articles in the current Above Rubies, #98.

MY PATH TO HEALING

CHARACTER BUILDING PRAYER BOX

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PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 126: MOTHERHOOD AND LIFE LEARNING

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FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS w/ Nancy Campbell

EPISODE 126: MOTHERHOOD AND LIFE LEARNING

Jessica Ajayi joins me today to speak about her journey of motherhood (having to leave home as a teenager to survive on her own, to now establishing a beautiful family life), and how she teaches skills to her children that will prepare them for life.

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, From Our Home to Yours, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello beautiful ladies. Here I am again. And I have another visitor with me today. Well, a dear friend. I shouldn't just say a visitor! But I've asked Jessica to come and talk with me today. Her name is Jessica Ajayi. Did I get it right?

Jessica Ajayi: Yes.

Nancy: I did! Amazing! It's a little hard to say her last name because it's Nigerian. Jessica is actually from Germany and her husband is from Nigeria. They have four most beautiful children. They have Samuel, who's 12, Priscilla is 10, Moses is 6, and the most beautiful little, gorgeous, cute Miriam. She is 3.

Anyway, Jessica, she's such a beautiful mother. In fact, she has an Instagram, which is called BEAUTIFUL MOTHERHOOD.  If you want to go to it, its Beautiful_Motherhood. You will get so blessed as she shares her heart there about motherhood. I love going to your page, Jessica. They're always so wonderful and the pictures you use are so wonderful too.

I hope you go to my Instagram too, which is Above Rubies, but it's actually _ Above_Rubies_. There are three underscores in mine for Instagram. So go there where I seek to encourage you in your wonderful role of  motherhood too.

Because this is what we're all about. We're just wanting to encourage you in your great career of mothering which the greatest career that you could have! Ladies, there is not one career in this whole nation that is more powerful, and more impacting, and more generational, and more eternal, than the career of mothering. Oh!

Anyway, we're going to talk about it today. So, good to have you with us, Jessica! Hi!

Jessica: Hi! Thank you. It's my pleasure.

Nancy: Yes, and so, Jessica, tell us how you started on your motherhood journey. Jessica has an interesting story, because, well, she didn't really start out in her own early years of being mothered herself. So she's had to find it out as she's gone along, and God is showing her so much. But I think it would be good to go back to the beginning a bit so the women can really feel your heart, Jessica.

Jessica: Yeah. So I grew up in Germany in a family where we were materialistically well off but there was another side to our life. There was a lot of hurt and pain, and a lot of dysfunction and violence. Just a lot of negative things.

My parents were not believers, even though they professed to be. But we did not read the Bible, we didn't go to church, never prayed. There was nothing that would resemble Christianity. So I didn't know what the Christian life actually looked like.

There was no homeschooling.  Homeschooling is illegal in Germany. There was a lot of separation between the life of my parents and our lives. My parents did many things like gardening or cooking, you know, like all these hands-on life skills. But we never saw them, so I was never prepared in any of them when I started at 17 on my own journey...

Nancy: Yes! Can I interrupt there? Didn't you just have to go out on your own and look after yourself at that age and even finish your education all by your little self?

Jessica: Yes. So at that point, my father was into alcoholism. There was a lot of violence at home. I lived in fear for my life, being at home. I had to leave, so I left. I was still going to school, and at that age, in Germany, I could not officially get work.

I couldn't get any help from the government because my father said, “Everything's fine” at home. So I got no support from anywhere. But I was determined to, under great hardship, to finish my education. For almost two years, it was so tough for me. There was literally no money for me to buy food. So I just ate . . .

Nancy: I think she ate air, didn't she? What did you eat in those days?!

Jessica: Well, I didn't know even how to cook anything, so even if it was cheap, I didn't know how to prepare anything, not even potatoes! I was scared to boil potatoes! (laughter) I didn't know what I thought that could go wrong, but I didn't know just how to do it.

So what I did was, I just bought flour, white flour, because it was very cheap. I just had literally coins to buy my food. Then I would mix it with water. When I had a little bit more money, I bought sugar, and I would just pop it in the microwave. That's what I ate.

Nancy: Oh, that is hard to believe!

Jessica: That is how my journey into adulthood started. Yeah, I became . . . I got married...No, first I got saved, in my early 20's. I had encountered God several times throughout my life. And I think that really gave me strength to walk though all kinds of challenges.

Then in my early 20's, I got saved, and my life really became quite different. I started being involved with Christian families. That's where I really started to see, what does a healthy family life look like?

I didn't have to just learn things in my mind, but I could just imitate. I could watch mothers just do simple things. Make their home, talk to their children, have a conversation. Things I had not experienced.

Yeah, from there I went to college and had many other families from different countries that I had the privilege to live with and learn from. Being nurtured, actually. I felt like I was again being a child during that time. I could be nurtured, and I could receive some of the things I had not received when I was growing up.

And then I got married when I was 24. The first few years were a challenge in the sense that we were ready to start a family, but I had been having miscarriages. And then we were told that we couldn't actually have children.

Nancy: And didn't you eventually find out it was because you were so malnourished because you'd been eating a bit of flour and water for so many years? How did that all work out?

Jessica:  Yes. So after three miscarriages, our doctor told us we should think of a permanent way to use contraception because it would just continue the same way.

God had showed me early, when we got married, a dream where I saw myself with five or six children. So I had the hope that we would have children. I didn't doubt that any bit, no matter, even as I kept on having miscarriages. I just knew somehow; I had that hope that God would give us children. That was our purpose to be together.

So as the doctor told me that we wouldn't have children, and there was really . . . they had done examinations. When I had a miscarriage, they actually tried to find out what was the reason. They said they couldn't find anything wrong, my body not being able to nurture a life. I looked back at what I had been eating, how I had been living, you know.

I started making radical changes, specifically adding nutrient-dense foods. Lots of fruits and vegetables, lots of foods rich in nutrition. My diet. And prayer! And I conceived. I never, in my four pregnancies, had any problems whatsoever. I had uncomplicated births, uncomplicated pregnancies.

Nancy: That's so great! So then you entered your journey of motherhood. I guess you had to learn all by yourself because you hadn't grown up knowing that nurturing anointing. So how did that all come about?

Jessica: I had always enjoyed watching documentaries from all around the world, like different countries. I would specifically be interested in documentaries about family life, people living together, community life, this kind of thing. From there, I had a lot of ideas.

I also had worked for some time in a women's hospital where women actually came to . . . it was a private small hospital where women came to deliver their babies. So I had watched several women over the course of weeks with their babies, how they would act.

There was one woman in particular that stood out to me. She was just so confident. She actually lived in our neighborhood when I grew up. She was so different from the norm. Everything she did was just so resonating with me, it felt so right. I could see how she was in tune with her body. She was in tune with every process around the birth. She was in tune with her baby.

She would just, she didn't care what the nurses said, that she had to feed at this time, and this much, and then this side, and then that side. But she would just go with her instinct. And that really spoke to me.

When I became a mother, at first, I was bombarded with good advice, and books and what not. I read all the things that people said. In our society today, you know, how you should structure everything and organize yourself. It didn't really speak to me. It didn't feel right.

When I had my firstborn, I think after two days I just tossed everything out. I would just listen to my heart. I would just trust my intuition, and trust. Women have been doing this for thousands of years, all around the world, without somebody having to come and give you all these instructions. And you have to memorize all kinds of schedules. I just decided to go with what I feel feels right.

Nancy: So you started early on the right track. That's so wonderful! I remember when I started motherhood. I actually also started on all these crazy four-hour schedules because that was the thing, back in New Zealand.

We used to have the Plunket Nurse. She used to come around every week to check on every mother. Oh, it was terrible! It was like the principal of the school coming into your room. It was so awful! And they'd come to check whether you were doing it all right.

They used to say you had to keep to this four-hourly schedule. It never worked! Oh, I can remember, as a new mother, my precious little baby, he was meant to wait four hours before I could feed him. He was screaming! I was just about screaming. “Oh, what am I going to do?” It was so ridiculous.

So I realized you've got to go with what you feel and what your babies need. I read a little quote way back then, and I've never forgotten it. I believe it's so true. There was a doctor, and he said these words. He said,

“There is more in a mother's intuition that all the

 books you'll ever read.”

That is so true.

You know, dear mothers, go with your heart as you're mothering. Go with your intuition as a mother, because so many of these ideas, and these rules, and these schedules that are put upon mothers, they're man-made. They don't come from that heart, that nurturing heart. If you go with that, you'll be great! You'll be a great mother, don't you think?

Jessica: Yeah, I was just remembering too, that I used to be fascinated with native and indigenous culture. Then I looked at the things I was presented with, like all these strict schedules and rules. Then I thought, you know, these mothers, they managed to mother their children without all this.

Nancy: Yes.

Jessica: So you know, I just decided right there to go with my instinct. However, there was one area where I struggled at first. That was sleeping. I had been told how to get up in the night and nurse my baby, and then, all these rules that I fulfilled for a time, actually for a month at home. I would have to get up and wake my baby up to eat, and then nurse one side, and then make sure that he burped. That literally took forever!

Nancy: It was terrible! You're not getting any sleep.

Jessica: Yeah. And then I had to change his diaper in between the feedings. Then I had to feed from the other side. If he was sleeping, I had to make sure that he was wide awake. So I had to wake him up, and I had to make sure that he burped again. By the time all this was over, I literally didn't get any sleep before I was ready to feed again!

Another thing was, they always said we should put the baby in the crib, and then go into another room and sleep there. I just remember that he was crying and crying. Then all this theory, he would calm himself. Well, long story short. It didn't feel right to us. It didn't give me peace.

I just ended up taking him with me to bed and creating a safe space where he could sleep so none of us would roll over him. That did fine. That has worked for me for all four children. I have had the most beautiful early baby seasons ever since.

Nancy: Well, that actually revolutionized motherhood for me too, Jessica. You know, I had to do all this trying to get them sleeping through the night, doing all that kind of feeding. When I came to that place of, “Oh, I'm going to take this baby to bed with me,” because this baby was just such a screamer! I mean he just screamed and screamed all night! We thought something was wrong with him.

The amazing thing was, when I took him to bed with me, he never screamed again! He just needed me. You know, you learn how to do it in a safe way. We never had the baby between us. He was always on my side.

You learn how to do it. And life, it just becomes so wonderful! Your baby can then nurse on and off throughout the night, which a breastfeeding baby needs to do.  They continue nursing through the night. They need that. You also can sleep, You can sleep while they're doing it, even!

In fact, often my husband would often wake up in the morning and say, “Well, is the baby here?” Because you just put them in their little bed by our bed. Then when they first wake, you bring them in, and that was it for the rest of the night.

He would say, “Is the baby here?” And I would say, “Oh yes, here he is.” I slept, baby slept, everybody slept. Oh! It's just so relaxing!

Jessica: I think my husband, he is a very light sleeper. He got less sleep than me because he would wake up. I actually wouldn't even fully wake up when the baby would nurse. I would just kind of do it automatically and then keep on sleeping!

Nancy: Oh, yes! So anyway, your children grew, and then you had thought about schooling. I know you homeschool now. So how did you get on to that? Because you'd never known much about that growing up in Germany.

Jessica: Yeah. So I was introduced to homeschooling when we first came into the US, probably about ten years ago. My son was close to three years old, my oldest. My first reaction to homeschooling was, I thought it was ridiculous! I was really offended.

There was a family that thought we'd like to know about homeschooling because we like to live an alternative lifestyle. I just thought, “How could somebody homeschool their children? I'm not a teacher. How could I do that?” I was just really, yeah, challenged.

Then I decided to look into this. I started watching videos, documentaries from families that did homeschooling. And I started to realize that it's actually not about the professional teacher, but it's about doing life together. And that it is indeed very possible for a parent to teach their children in many, many different areas.

Also, I realized that academics is not the only part in homeschooling. There are many different areas of homeschooling. So I decided since my son was only, well by then, he was four. He would have gone to something like pre-K or kindergarten. I did not want to put him into anywhere. So I decided, “Well, I cannot do too much wrong at that age, so let me just give it a try.”

So I got the little curriculum, and we just did arts and crafts together, and baked cookies, and things like that. Then when he got to first grade, I just did the same thing. I looked for a homeschooling organization that would grade for me. I was scared of grading at first because I was still a little bit intimidated.

So they would actually send me all the material, and the teacher's guides. There were little tests that I felt comfortable with at that time. I just felt like I can do my part, but I have somebody else who can then satisfy, somehow, that what you're doing is the right thing.

And then year by year, it just evolved from there, and I grew into it, and become more confident. Over the years, you discover what type of homeschooling is really right, and resonates most with us and our lifestyle.

Nancy: So what do you find is best for you, Jessica?

Jessica: I'm a person who likes to do lots of projects, do it yourself, like discover things in another . . . I'll look for new recipes, things like that. So, a mix of home and unschooling. I would say Charlotte Mason inspires. Leadership education focus. Kindling a passion for learning at the center. I guess that describes best what our homeschool looks like and what we enjoy.

Nancy: Yes, something I noticed about your children is they have a love for books. I think you have a love for books too, don't you? So how have you given them that love for reading and love for books, because you know, you've not only got girls, you've got boys. Often boys, they're too busy to look at books. But I notice they even enjoy them too. How have you inspired that in them?

Jessica: Yeah. So my son, he loves to read books. My oldest son and my young son too. He loves it. I read them to him. This is one of the keys to reading. You know, you can only read to them interesting things that you go into yourself.

I love reading. I read to my children, and I have always read to my children. Even when they were babies, I would read out loud things that I read. As they grew, I would make it this thing every day...

Nancy: Whatever you were reading, even if it was something that didn't relate to children, it was something you were trying to learn, or interested about, you'd just read it out loud to them.

Jessica: Yes, when they were babies, yes. They didn't understand the content, but the fact that I was reading to them. Yes, there's something that, ever since they existed, basically, that they have experienced. It's something that feels normal to them.

Yeah, every day now too, I spend time to read to my little ones. I read for 30 minutes in the morning, more or less. Sometimes it's time in the afternoon, and sometimes in the evening. They eventually wait, when they have time, when they see me relaxing somewhere, they come with their piles of books. “Mom, read this to me! Read that to me!”

We also make it a must to go to the library at least every two weeks. We literally need to bring baskets. The librarian . . . They surround books, and, yes, they are consumed with their books.

One thing that I discovered is, it's also essential to focus on what kind of books. So we focus on classics, because classics, true classics, are books that have spoken to many people over a large period of time. They have touched people's lives. They have very good values in them.

Also, all the classics, all the books we read, are in line with our faith. We don't read anything that's either fluff, or anything that is not completely reaffirming the values that we want to lead our children to live.

Nancy: Yes, now I guess, you would find, you would have to really sort through at the library, because I find there's a lot of junk at the library too. So how do you do that? Do you find all the ones that you want?

Jessica: So, I have a couple of organizations that have book lists. That makes it a lot easier, because these organizations, one is Thomas Jefferson Education, TJEd.org. They have a classic list for children.

The other one is a homeschooling curriculum. It's called The Good and the Beautiful. They also have a free download of a file on their website, with literally 200 or 300 books that are all in line with the Christian values. Deep and meaningful stories, yeah.

Nancy: That's really good! I'd like you to say those two places where they could get that list again. So if you're listening doing dishes, but you want to get that in your mind, tell them again, Jessica, clearly, so they can remember it, to look it up.

Jessica: So one is TJEd.org. It's a homeschooling approach. It's not the actual curriculum, but they have a site where you can find classic books for children in the different ages, and also for adults. 

The other organization is The Good and the Beautiful. It's an actual homeschooling curriculum, a very beautiful one. I love their free downloads. It’s a free download with book recommendations, literally hundreds of book recommendations.

Nancy: That's so great to know about that! Can you find them all at the library, or have you had to purchase some of them?

Jessica: Yeah, sometimes we buy some of them. The good thing, when you go into classics, they're often not very expensive.

Nancy: Yes, so have you got a big library at home?

Jessica: We have a good-sized library, yes.

Nancy: How big is that?

Jessica: Well, a few hundred. (Nancy laughing)

Nancy: So where do you keep them all? Do you have bookshelves for them all?

Jessica: I actually built bookshelves. So these are all the projects that I do with the kids. We try to really live frugal. On the other hand, also teaching our children skills. I don't go to try to find skills somewhere outside, but I look in my home, what needs to be done, what could we learn how to do? We've learned how to build furniture, including bookshelves.

Nancy: That's really great. How many bookshelves do you have?

Jessica: We have probably seven.

Nancy: Yes, and you built them all yourself?

Jessica: Five of them.

Nancy: That's great! Did the children help you?

Jessica: Yes!

Nancy: So tell us how you taught them.

Jessica: When I started building furniture, it was kind of a need, because my husband did not have a lot of income. We needed more shelves. So we had wood. There are always people who just dump things, so we got free wood. So I looked  at, “How could I turn this wood into a shelf?” I can learn how to do that. People learn this, right?

While I learned, I always invite the children. There's a principle. Whatever I do, I always invite them to come and to look. Then they often love to participate. They hardly can even wait to get to help.

So when they are a little, I would hold the drill, and I would let them hold it with me. And then as they get older, then they will hold it, and I'm there. I'm close by. My hand is right next to them. They're just kids, you know.

Then, as they get older, they can handle it by themselves, so I just watch from a distance. Then as they prove themselves, and they're being more confident handling tools, I just trust them, and let them work by themselves.

Nancy: That is so great! So at an early age, they are learning how to actually do things and be practical.

So Samuel, he's your oldest now, at 12. So how old was he when he could use a saw, and use a drill? And actually sort of begin able to make something?

Jessica: I think he was probably six or seven. Although the electric drill, like the electric saw, the jigsaw, I didn't trust for him until he was probably eight.

Nancy: What about a hand saw?

Jessica: Oh yeah.

Nancy: See, that's so amazing, Jessica. Because there, unfortunately, there are teenage boys who don't even know how to hold a drill or use a saw at their age! Yet, if you start them young, and show them how, they're capable. I think that's just one of the sad things today about the way we're raising children.

We're raising, so many parents are just raising little children. And they keep them little children! Whereas we are meant to be raising children to be adults, and to learn how to do things! So I just love that!

I think that's just so, I hope that inspires you, lovely mums, that we have to even take risks with our children too, to let them do things. If we don't ever let them do things, they'll always need mommy there to help them, and hold them. Goodness, they just stay little wimps!

With our sons, we're trying to raise men who know how to do things. I'm just amazed at how many young people don't even know how to do basic things.

So what else is Samuel . . . Well, he's built things on his own, hasn't he? Tell us!

Jessica: Yes. He built himself a loft bed. He wanted to have a little fort, so he built it all by himself. He told me; this was probably now six months ago. He told me, “Mom, I do so many things together with you, under your supervision. I want to build this all by myself.”

Nancy: Yes. And how old is he now?

Jessica: He's twelve.

Nancy: So this is what he's doing at this age. OK?

Jessica: Yes. I said, “OK, draw the plan and tell me what you want to do, and then do it! If you need me, I'm there.” And he did. So he has this loft bed upstairs, as his bed. Downstairs he has a little, looks like a little loft cabin even. That's his little hide-out.

Nancy: Oh, how wonderful that you've given him the liberty to do that. I think that's wonderful! One day you were telling me about how Samuel made this thing for taking his shoes off. What do you call those things? I don't even know what you call them.

Jessica: I don't know too, but he read about it in one of his favorite books, and he saw that he always messed the floor with his dirty boots. He said, “Mom, I just . . . ” Well, he actually came with this made thing. I don't know what you call it too. Shoe off taker? I don't know. (Laughter)

So anyway, he came with it. I was like, “What is this?” He said, “Well, I read about it in the classic, and I googled it.” So he did his own research. And then he looked how to make it, and then he built it! And now he uses it.

Nancy: So every time he comes in... Does he put his foot into it somehow?

Jessica: No, it's like you put the back of your boot against it. And it kind of, the back of your boot gets kind of locked into it, and then you just step out of your boot.

Nancy: You know what? I'm going to get him to make me one. (Laughter) Because I'm always having to try and take my boot off with my other boot or reach down with my hand. I would  think, “Oh, it would be so great to have something that automatically took them off!”

Maybe he'll go into business making them! Oh my, you're listening to this, maybe you'll send in an order! And soon we'll have Samuel in business! Actually that's how you get into business, isn't it? You start making something, and someone wants it, and then someone else wants it, and you can get a web page! Wow! That's exciting!

Well, I'm going to talk to him about that. Tell us about some other things. Has he made any other things?

Jessica: Yeah, he built with his sister and his little brother. They built an outdoor fort, like it was two stories. Just looked like a little shed. It even had a roof. They built a ladder to go upstairs, and they got furniture to be up there. They had like a little sunroof on the top, and a cabin underneath. They built this all by themselves.

Nancy: That is amazing! That is just so great! And so, Priscilla, she's ten. Does she like to build things too?

Jessica: Yes, she does. Yeah. So they have the mindset to do it now. They learned it from me. Whenever we need something, we look at the resources we have, and then we just make it. They come up with ideas.

They wanted to play gaga ball. We didn't have a pit. They had lots of wood, and they just designed it. It's not completely round, but it has I think six or seven corners. They just build it. So now it’s now a big deck. And they play.

Nancy: That really puts me to shame, because I want to have a gaga thing here at our place, because the young people love playing it. I think, “I've got to get someone to make it.” Well! We should have already made it! Wow! This is so inspiring.

I hope you are being inspired, but our time is going for this session. I'm going to get Jessica for our next session, and find out lots more things that you do, Jessica, with your children. How you make homeschooling such an exciting and wonderful lifestyle. Because I am aware of a lot of the things they do, and I believe that that's how we're meant to do it.

Homeschooling is not like you do it at school. Homeschooling is life education. It's teaching them life! That's more than sitting at books, and filling in answers, and doing a curriculum. It's life! It's life! So we'll get Jessica to tell a little bit more of the life things that they do in their home.

Maybe I'll just give you a little Scripture at the end. I always love to bring the Word into our podcast. But I love, oh, you know, when we read the Word, it's so practical too, isn't it?

I did a study a while back in Psalms. God has so many different Hebrew words about teaching our children. He doesn't just have one word. Actually, Deuteronomy 6:7, which we all know, as homeschoolers, is where we are to diligently teach our children.

We know what the Bible says. It tells us to teach them when we're sitting in our house, when we're walking by the way. Well, that would be maybe riding in our cars. Or when we're lying down, or when we're getting up. It's just every aspect of life. What happens while we're doing those things?

Now the word “Thou shalt diligently teach” is the Hebrew word shanan. It means “to whet, as in sharpening a sword. To pierce or to prick.” It's teaching that goes right into their inner beings and influences their life. It also is teaching that goes right into their conscience. It's teaching that keeps them from being dumbed down, but sharp.

I think, you know, that happens when we're teaching life. Because children somehow take it in more when it relates to something they're doing.

In that same Scripture, there's another word, because it says that we are to teach them diligently. And  then, we're also to talk about them. Talk about them, and that word is one of the most commonest words in the Bible, just about speaking, every day speaking. Just talking, communicating.

That's what we're meant to do when we're teaching. We're to talk about them when we're sitting down. Talk about them when we're doing something together. OK, we talk about what we're doing. And that's what Jessica's been saying. OK, she's doing something and she's talking about it with her children. Because whatever she's doing, she'll show them how to do it, so they can do it.

It's just how, I think, God wants us to teach our children. Let's pray.

“Father, we do thank You that, once again, we love to talk about all these things. How to mother, how to homeschool, how to truly raise our children, and prepare them for life.

Oh God, I pray for all the precious lovely mothers listening today. I pray that You will bless them, encourage them, inspire them. Lord, just remind them again that they are doing such a great job. Lord, they're in the very perfect will of God as they mother and nurture and train and teach their children.

We thank You that we are blessed to be mothers. In Jesus' Name, amen.”

Transcribed by Darlene Norris * This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Jessica has two articles in the current Above Rubies, #98.

MY PATH TO HEALING

CHARACTER BUILDING PRAYER BOX

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