PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 379: MOTHERHOOD IS NOT A PART-TIME CAREER
LIFE TO THE FULL w/ Nancy Campbell
EPISODE 379: Motherhood is Not a Part-Time Career
We have a divine mandate from God. Are we training our children to be disciples for Christ? Do they have a biblical worldview, or do they fit more into this society?
Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to the Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies, a magazine bringing strength and encouragement to families across the world.
Nancy Campbell: Hello again, ladies! Last week we were talking about how to have “the tongue of the learned.” Well, we really want that for ourselves, don’t we? We were talking about it because of praying for all these young people who want to walk in the footsteps of Charlie Kirk, and how that it’s not enough just to say, “OK, I want to do that!”
They have to be prepared. They’ve got to get that “tongue of the learned” and it comes through spending time in God’s Word, studying it. We find out that God wants us to have His Word in our minds, in our hearts, but also in our mouths.
Another Scripture about that is Isaiah 59:21: “As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord.” (God is speaking here) “My Spirit that is upon thee” (that’s the first thing He says) “My Spirit that is upon thee” (God wants His Spirit to be in us, and upon us, directing our lives). It goes on to say: “And My Word, which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouths of thy children, nor out of the mouths of thy children’s children, saith the Lord, from henceforth and forever.” This is a glorious Scripture, a mandate that God has given to us as parents that He wants His Spirit to be upon us and His Word to be in us but coming out of our mouths.
You see, it’s not just one thing or the other. It is both the Holy Spirit and the Word that work together to direct our lives and to help us to grow in Christ. I used to hear a little saying as I was growing up:
“If you have all Spirit, you’ll burn up,
if you have all Word, you’ll dry up,
but if you have the Holy Spirit and the Word, you’ll grow up.”
That’s quite good, isn’t it? But we need both.
We must have the Word coming out of our mouths. This is where God wants it to be. This is where we want it to be for our children too. As I said, we were talking about the “tongue of the learned.” That comes from that Scripture in Isaiah 50:4 how that God wants to waken us every morning to show us His ways and His Word so that we will have “the tongue of the learned,” to know how to speak to those who are weary and need a word.
But now, there’s something that really comes to us, mothers. It’s another word in Isaiah. This time it’s Isaiah 54:13: “And all thy children shall be taught of the Lord, and great shall be the peace of thy children.”
This Scripture is talking directly to us about our children. It uses the same Hebrew word where it talks of how we must have “the tongue of the learned.” That means that we are students, we are studiers, we’re a disciple, and we want to learn more and more. Now, this time, it says this wonderful promise: “And all thy children shall be taught” (that’s the same word, limmud) “of the Lord.”
OK, now comes the question. Dear mothers, are your children “taught of the Lord”? Because who is going to teach them? Well, the Bible talks about the father teaching the children. But the mother is the one who is in the home. The Bible also talks about the mother teaching the children.
The teaching of the mother is powerful. We see that in Proverbs 6. Let me go to it here. Proverbs 6:20: “My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the teaching of thy mother. Bind them continually upon thine heart, and tie them about thy neck. When thou goest, it shall lead thee; when thou sleepest, it shall keep thee; and when thou awakest, it shall talk with thee. For the commandment is a lamp; and the mother’s teaching is a light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life: to keep thee from the evil woman,” and so on. So, we see the power of a mother’s teaching, that it goes into our children to lead them and direct them all throughout their lives.
Then we come back to this Scripture: “And all thy children shall be taught of the Lord.” How much are you teaching them, lovely mother? How much have they got the Word in them? Remember? How do we have to have the Word? “Let the Word of God dwell in your hearts richly.” Not just a little bit, but richly, so we get the Word of God embedded into the hearts and minds of our children, so that it’s coming out of their mouths.
Now, it is a sad thing, because I have found that being amongst many homeschooled children, that they are not always familiar with the Word of God. Just hear me. I’m not talking about the secular children. I’m talking about homeschooled children. How is it that homeschooled children don’t really know the Word?
I don’t believe that a child growing up in a godly Christian home where they’re having the Word read to them every morning and every evening, and where their parents talk about the Word, and where the mother in the home is constantly dropping seeds of truth and imparting biblical worldview, none of those children should ever have to go to Bible school when they get out of home. And yet, there are many who do.
They think, “Oh, well, I will go to Bible school instead of going to college.” There are many who have grown up in Christian homes. Why do they have to go to Bible college? They should have had a Bible college all their lives! Right from the very beginning of their lives.
In fact, once a baby is born into the home and the baby is there, the mother is holding this precious baby in her arms . . . they’re at the table . . . they’re having family devotions . . . father is reading the Word . . . that baby is hearing that Word, right from a babe, right from a little toddler, from a child, as it gets older.
And what do the Scriptures say? 2 Timothy 3:15: Paul is talking to Timothy, and he said: “From a child, thou hast known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation.” That word “child” in the Greek is brephos.
It talks about a child in the womb. It talks about when Jesus was in the womb. It’s the same word that is used when it says: “And the angel said to the shepherds, ‘Ye shall find the Child in a manger, wrapped in swaddling clothes.’” Jesus was just a newborn baby. That’s the word that is used. So, it’s a word for a very little child.
“From a child, thou hast known” Known, known, and yet, we get teenagers, and they don’t know the Holy Scriptures. Oh yes, they know a bit of them. They just know basic stuff, but they don’t really know the Scriptures! Look, that’s what we’re meant to do as parents, as mothers! Precious mother, you’re not only cooking, and keeping house, and caring for your children physically. Our job is more than physical. We are imparting to their souls and their spirits. We must get into them a biblical worldview.
Oh, did you know that Dr. George Barna, of the Arizona University Cultural Research Center at the Arizona Christian University . . . He’s always doing these researches on so much all the time. His last statistic on Christians who have a worldview is that only four percent have a real biblical worldview. They have a humanistic worldview on so many subjects. Oh, they’ve got a biblical worldview on some things, but not everything! A biblical worldview is where we know what God says on every subject, and we will search it out in the Word.
Our responsibility, dear mothers, is for our children to grow up with a biblical worldview, knowing the Scriptures. It’s the biggest mandate that God has given us. What does He say in Isaiah 59:21: “That this Word of the Lord will not depart out of our mouths, nor out of the mouths of our children, nor out of the mouths of our children’s children, forever”?
My, that’s a huge mandate, isn’t it? But it’s one we have to take seriously. Motherhood is not a half-time job. Mothers think, “Oh, well, I can go out in my career. I can do this, and I can do that.” Yes, you can do it, and still keep your home, but you won’t have time to impart that biblical worldview into your children so that they know the Scriptures.
This is what God has given to us to do. That’s the word, limmud, that they will know them. Oh, they’ll be a student of them. They’ll be a disciple of them. In fact, we’re going to the New Testament. We know that when Jesus called His disciples, He said: “Follow Me!” And they followed Him. Sometimes He said: “Come to Me.” It’s the same word, actually.
Then we go to Matthew 11:28. Jesus says: “Come unto Me.” That’s the same word He uses for “follow.” When He says to His disciples: “Follow me. Come unto Me, and learn of Me.”
“Come unto Me, all ye that are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn of Me.” That’s what it means to be a disciple. If we’re not learning, we’re not a disciple. So, if we’re making disciples of our children, which is what we’re meant to be doing, wow! Jesus had 12 disciples, and He taught them His ways and God’s ways.
Now, you only may have three little disciples. Maybe some of you have gotten eleven, twelve disciples. Well, that’s not too many. Jesus had twelve disciples, so maybe He’s given you that many too, to train for Him. But, OK, this is a challenge, isn’t it?
We go back to that Scripture I gave you last week. 2 Timothy 2:15: “Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, righty dividing the Word of truth.” Now, why? Because did you hear a little phrase that I said? “Study to show thyself Approved Unto God.” Take the first letters of those three words, AUG. Approved Unto God.
When I was a teen, in fact, I actually, although I loved the Lord, I was 18 when God truly got a hold of my life. I began to seek Him with all of my heart. As I read that Scripture, this was the vision I got. This was my aspiration, that the degree I would go after would not be a BA or a BSC, or an MA, but I would go after the AUG, “approved unto God.” “Study to show thyself Approved Unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed.”
So, I set my heart to seek God. From that time, I used to get up very, very early. Very early and spend three hours with the Lord, in the Word, before I would even go out to my work each day, because this was what I was seeking after. Now, like Charlie Kirk, he didn’t believe young people should go to college today.
He saw, as he went into the colleges, just what was happening to these young people. They were being destroyed. He didn’t go to college himself, and yet he could run rings around every one of them! They did not know anything of what he knew because he studied the Word. He studied what was important to know. He studied it, trained in it, and became expert in it, and skillful in it.
You don’t have to go to college to do that. You can study far more, and you can study what is necessary for the greatest degree that you can go after. Young people . . . are there any young people listening? Oh, I hope you are listening, and mothers, I hope you can get your young people to listen to my last podcast and this one because if they can get a vision of this, they will be on the right track as they set their hearts for God, and go after the AUG, “approved unto God.” Amen. May your precious children, may they truly come to know the Scriptures.
I read in Deuteronomy 11:19, where God says to teach your children, sitting in your home. This is the environment where God wants us to teach our children. It’s the opposite to Psalm 1. Let’s just look at it. Psalm 1, we all know it. I know it, but I’m going to get it exactly right here. Psalm 1:1: “Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.”
We see two opposites here. We see God’s picture of our children sitting in the home being taught of the Lord. Then we see children who are sent off to the public school, where they’re sitting in “the seat of the scornful” of teachers who scorn God’s ways; teachers who have been brainwashed in college, and who believe in transgenderism and every alternative thing against the Word of God. And we’re sending our children to sit in their seats and listen to that junk? I beg your pardon. We’d better get with the Word of God. Amen?
So, even the least we will be doing is gathering our children morning and evening, where our husband, the father, is reading them the Word, and they’re praying together. It’s going into our children daily.
Now there are three Hebrew words that are very similar. We talked about limmud, that all our children will be taught of the Lord. As we listen to God, waking us up, to hear, to get “the tongue of the learned,” that’s limmud.
And then, there’s laqach, L-A-Q-A-C-H. All very similar meanings. It also means “learning, doctrine.”
We read it in Proverbs 1:5: “A wise man will hear, and will increase learning” (that’s the word there) “And a man of understanding shall obtain unto wise counsel.” We notice, when it talks about learning, what does it say? “A wise man will hear, and will increase learning.”
Now, if we’re a disciple, if we’re training our children to be disciples of the Lord, they will be increasing in learning. We should all be increasing in learning. We ourselves should be increasing in learning every day.
Even as I go to the Word every morning, I go with expectancy, with faith in my heart, believing that God is going to speak to me because His Word is alive. His Word is eternal. His Word is powerful. His Word is full of revelation, and I am expecting God to speak to me. It is so exciting, because every day, He speaks to me. Every day, I will write in my journal what He is saying to me. I am increasing in my knowledge of Him and His Word.
There is so much more. There is always more. My favorite Scripture, Proverbs 4:18: “The path of the just is as the shining light that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.” We’re always increasing. Are your children increasing in the knowledge of the Lord, dear mother? A good thing to ask at your table in the evening, good to ask questions. Always ask questions. Find out what your children know.
You can put out the question, “Children, what have you learned about God today?” Or “What new thing have you learned today?” Get them to speak out what they are learning, because when they speak it out, they will keep it even more.
And then, the third Hebrew word, which is again very similar, is lamad. Once again, a similar meaning, “to study, to be accustomed to, to be skilled, to be expert.” It’s from a root word meaning, “to goad,” as you goad an animal. Back in the early days, they didn’t have all this modern machinery, and they had their oxen. They had this goad that they would have to prod and goad and prick the oxen to make them keep going and make them keep working. So often, we need a goad to help us along the way, too, don’t we?
But it means, “to be accustomed to.” You’re so familiar, so familiar. That’s what I think is missing today in many young Christian people, even homeschooled. They are not familiar. Oh yes, they know bits of the Word of God, but they’re not familiar.
Look, you can begin a Scripture, and say, “Who can finish it?” And they can’t finish it. I beg your pardon. It’s a familiar Scripture! Our children should know the Scriptures. They should be familiar. They should be accustomed to them. It should be something that they’re so accustomed to.
There are many, many Scriptures. Maybe I can just read you a few or put more for you in the transcript. But many times, in the Word, David would cry out to the Lord. In fact, in Psalm 119, which as you know, has 176 verses, eleven times in this chapter David cries out to the Lord. “Oh, teach me Thy statutes,” or “I will learn Thy righteous statutes.” So, he goes on and on, because David was one who wanted to know God’s ways, and know His statutes. He wanted to learn them. He wanted to become skillful in them.
In fact, we have this same word, “skillful,” in this particular passage here, 1 Chronicles 5:18. It’s talking here about the sons of Reuben, and the Gaddites, and half the tribe of Manasseh. “Of valiant men, able to bear buckler and sword, and to shoot with bow, and skillful in war, were 44,760, that went out to war.” Here, it’s talking about young men being skillful in war. They used the word lamad.
It’s the same with the Scriptures. We are to be skillful and expert in the Scriptures. As mothers, we are to be teaching our children to be skillful and expert in the Scriptures. That’s why I believe motherhood starts before you become a mother.
I am so glad that, as a young person, I began to seek God with all my heart. Those years of being in the Word and waiting upon the Lord for three hours every morning, with God wakening my ear to hear Him. Well, sometimes I didn’t eagerly get up. Back in New Zealand, in the cold winters, we had no central heating. No central heating back in New Zealand. We would only have a fire in the middle of the house, a fireplace which everybody would get around, and huddle around.
But when you went to your bedrooms, it was freezing. I can always remember finding it so hard to get to sleep as my toes were like ice. So, to wake in the morning with my alarm, and I’d put my toes down on the linoleum . . . it was freezing cold, and I knew I’d want to get back to bed. Then I would have another alarm, ten minutes later, to wake me up in another place, where I’d knock my head or something, trying to turn it off to really wake myself up so I could get to that place to hear God speak to me.
But I wanted, so wanted, to know the ways of the Lord. It doesn’t come through haphazard reading. These soldiers who were skillful in war didn’t think, “Oh, well, I might shoot a few arrows today.” No, every day they practiced! They practiced their bow shooting. They practiced how to become skillful with the sword. They were ready for war. And was there one or two? No, 44,760 skillful in war. Isn’t that amazing?
I’m thinking of those 62,000 (I think it was 54,000) requests to have Turning Point chapters in colleges across our nation. Well, where will we get all those thousands? Wouldn’t it be amazing if we even got 44,760 who are skillful? Not just wanting, but skillful and expert in the Word and the knowledge of God, to bring that to the young people of the nation? We would certainly have revival. Amen! Isn’t that exciting? So, it means “to be skillful, to be expert.”
Deuteronomy 5:1: “Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears, that you may learn, and keep and do them.” Notice, it’s not just “read them.” It’s “learn,” which means, as you know, “to study, to be skilled, to be expert.”
However, although there are many Scriptures with the word lamad in it, to learn God’s ways, there’s a negative. This is rather sad. We read this in Psalm 106:35: “They did not destroy the nations, concerning whom the Lord commanded them, but were mingled among the heathen, and learned their works.” Isn’t that sad? These were the people of God. But instead of learning God’s ways, they learned the ways of the heathen. We think, “Oh, that is so terrible!”
And yet, it is the testimony of many Christians today and of their children. Their children, especially if they’re going to public school, and they’re mixing with the heathen, they’re learning their ways! And they’ll be learning it, not only from the ways of all their peers around them but even from the teachers. They’re learning the ways of heathen. Why would any Christian couple who believe the Word of God, and confess that they are believers, would send their children into a public school to learn the ways of the heathen? No, we’re to learn the ways of God.
Isaiah 29:13: “. . . Their fear toward me is taught” (that’s the word lamad) “by the precept of men.” Who are your children learning from, dear mother? Are they learning from peers around them? From society around them? From the media? Social media? Junk that they are watching on iPhones? Are they learning it from that? Or are they learning it from God’s Word? Oh, may God save us from letting our children learn the ways of the heathen.
Listen to this. 2 Kings 17:8: “The children of Israel walked in the statutes of the heathen, whom the Lord cast out from before the children of Israel.” When the children of Israel first went into the Promised Land, God said, “You’ve got to get rid of everyone. You are not to leave one remaining. You wipe them out because you've got to get rid of their evil ways.”
But now, the years have gone by, and can you believe it? They are now walking in the statutes of those heathen people that they had war with and annihilated from the land. And do you get this, ladies? Now listen to this. there are so many Scriptures about God saying He wants us to learn His statutes, His commandments, His ordinances.
But did you know that the devil also has statutes and ordinances? You just thought our God has them. We’ve got to just, “Oh, we’ve got to obey God’s commandments and statutes.” Oooooh, no, the devil has statutes also. We just read it! Let me read it again so you get it. “They walked in the statutes of the heathen.”
So, we have to choose. Oh, yes, if you go the world’s way, you’ll still be walking in statutes, but they will be the statutes of the devil. Make sure we’re walking in the statutes of the Lord and bringing our children into the statutes of the Lord.
It continues: “Yet the Lord testified against Israel by all the prophets and all the seers, saying “Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep My commandments, and My statutes.”
But verse 15: “They rejected His statutes, and they followed vanity and become vain, and went after the heathen that were roundabout them, concerning whom the LORD had charged them, that they should not do like them.”
Get it? Lovely ladies, we, as God’s people, are not meant to be like the heathen. We’re not meant to be like, or look like, society around us. It seems that so many Christians today, and so many of our precious, wonderful, young people want to look like the world. They want to fit in with the world, the heathen. They want to be like them.
WE ARE EITHER GOD’S PEOPLE OR WE ARE THE HEATHEN
What did God say? That “they should not do like them.” We’ve got to come to this place where we’re going to be bold and stand up for God’s truth, His ways, even if we look different to the heathen, because we’re not the heathen. Unless you’re going to be the heathen. If you're going to be like them, you are the heathen. If you are like them, you will be the heathen. We’re either God’s people or we are the heathen. So, we better walk God’s ways. Amen?
And get back to His ways. Jeremiah 6:16: “Thus saith the Lord; Stand ye in the way and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest unto your soul.” God’s ways, His ways, are the good ways. Yes, they’re the ancient paths. They’re the old paths, but they’re as up to date as tomorrow’s newspaper. Yes, God’s ways are for all generations.
His ways have been purified. Psalm 12:6: “The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.” Get that, ladies. Every word of the Lord, every word you read in this Book that you hold, I do hope you hold it in your hands. There’s something about this Bible, holding it in your hands. Every word is a pure word, and it has been purified, not just once. It’s been purified seven times.
So, everything in this Book will work, and it works for every generation from the beginning of time until the Lord comes. It is for us right now, and we can take every . . . every word. It’s a pure word.
Isaiah 8:20: “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” There’s only light in God’s Word. The ways of the heathen are darkness. Let’s be those who seek after God’s ways.
Just as we are closing, I’d like to once again mention this little thought. It’s another one of Charlie Kirk’s things he liked to bring out. I’m sure you may have seen some of his Instagrams on it where he says, “Read your Bible. Not just the Bible on a digital iPhone.” He has five points, and you can look them up of why he says we should read our Bibles.
Of course, the number one thing he talked about is that the iPhone is such a distraction. Yes, it’s got the Bible on it. You can have your Bible on it, but it is such a distraction. It’s interesting. Charlie Kirk said if you can read your Bible on the iPhone, and not be affected by any distractions, you’ve got more fruits of the Spirit than he had.
And I would say, personally, from myself, if you can read the Word of God on your iPhone, and never pick up one of those distractions, you probably have more discipline than I have. And, yes, I have discipline. I am a very disciplined person. And yet, I know. Oh, you're reading the Word on your iPhone, and “Ping! Ping!”
And you get these distraction notifications, and one looks very important. Oh, you never look at those, but that looks so important, so you might just look at it. You’re distracted already! It’s disgusting! So, you put it away. Now, I do use it. I use it for looking up Hebrew words, but I will read the Word first, so I’m not distracted.
Oh, HOLD IT IN YOUR HAND. Use that which will not distract you. And take your Bibles to church! I simply cannot believe it! The people go to church today and they don’t even have a Bible in their hand! Help! I’m overtime but just let me finish this. They have their Bible in their pocket, or their purse, or wherever, and maybe they get it out when it’s time to read the Word.
But I know, and I have seen, and I have watched so many looking at tweets, and looking at dings and pings, and even writing . . . even writing back to people! In church, where we’re there to hear the Word of God! I think we should never take them to church. So, let’s begin to be families who take our Bibles. If the pastor says, “Now hold up your Bibles,” and you hold up the Word of God.
But you hold up your iPhone. What are you doing? You’re not just holding up your iPhone. You’re holding up porn. There’s porn on that iPhone. There are evil things on that iPhone and you're holding up junk. Now, you may not read them, but they’re there on your iPhone. You want to be one who holds up the unadulterated Word of God. Amen?
OK, well, I’d better stop, because I’m in one of my little rants, because I believe we should have our Bibles, read the Bible, and take the Bible to church. I’m a bit tired of these iPhones, because I see people distracted everywhere. It’s not good, and I don’t even like preachers preaching from an iPhone! I hate it! I want to see the real Word of God. OK? I’d better stop, ladies. Forgive me for ranting on, won’t you? But I hope you’ll believe me.
“Dear Father, we thank You so much for Your Word. Your Word is so powerful. It is eternal. Lord God, we want to be those who are not distracted by all the other things, Lord, that are on our iPhones. Yes, we can use them to serve us, even in studying the Word, but, oh God, we have to be so disciplined, and we need time to just have this Word in our hands, that we can hold, that we can love, that we can even hold to our breasts, because it’s so precious to us that we can underline.
(That’s another thing, when we’re on our iPhones, and oh, you see something so amazing, reading it, and you can’t even underline it! Oh goodness me! Oh, it’s so wonderful to underline the Word, and circle things, and so on).
“Lord, help us to be those who are true studiers of Your Word.
“Lord, I pray for all these precious, lovely mothers today. Bless them, Lord God, and give them such a heart for the mandate You’ve given us, Lord, to teach our children so penetratingly, that they will have the Word, Your Word, coming out of their mouths. In the Name of Jesus. Amen.”
Blessings from Nancy Campbell
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MY HEART IS FULL
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Here are the words for you:
MY HEART IS FULL
Little arms reaching for me,
Grubby fingers touch my face
And love is what I feel.
Little eyes looking at me,
Chubby cheeks burst with smiles
And joy is what I know,
Peeking in while they sleep at night,
I thank God for the gift of life,
I thank God for more that I deserve.
CHORUS.
My heart is full, my heart is full,
Why would I want for more
When my cup overflows?
My heart is full, my heart is full,
This much I know.
Strong arms reaching for me
Circle my waist for the millionth time
And love is what I feel
Sometimes I watch him sleep at night,
I thank God that I am his wife,
And joy is what I know.
CHORUS.
Sometimes when discontent creeps into my soul
A still small voice reminds me of the ones my arms can hold


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