PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 223: The Four L’s of Raising Children, Part 7

Epi223picLIFE TO THE FULL w/ Nancy Campbell

EPISODE 223: The Four L’s of Raising Children, Part 7

We continue speaking about raising children who love liberty. Do your children know the first and second amendments? Are you teaching them the Constitution? Are you aware of how important it is to vote in our local elections? Did you know that your county sheriff has power to protect you from federal mandates that would be harmful to you? What are you doing to prepare your children to live in freedom?

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to The Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies! We’re here again, and we’re going to finish our series on the four L’s of raising children. This is our last session on RAISING OUR CHILDREN TO LOVE LIBERTY. We didn’t really have time to say everything we wanted to last time.

We were talking about how we have come to see how important it is to be involved in our local elections. Yes, I have voted locally before, but this last time I really got a lot more involved. Did you also?

Michele: Oh, absolutely! This is kind of new territory for us, being new in Tennessee. We had to learn what is even happening here in this county. We had a lot of research to do and a lot of people to talk to.

Nancy: Yes. We were blessed. In fact, I think it was the night before we left to go to England, we had a dear friend, a wonderful man of God, come to our home and speak to all the folks who came about preparing to vote. This man had spent many, many hours speaking to those who were wanting to be sheriff, and mayor, and different things in our county. He spent a lot of time with them, asking them the real, real, real questions. Many of them couldn’t really even answer.

He shared about one man who was applying for sheriff in our county, because we have now come to realize that the sheriff is a very important part of the county. He shared how this particular man was able to really answer the questions and would be so good to vote in. So, of course, after understanding all this, we all voted for him, but he didn’t get in.

Sadly, however, it made us realize that we hadn’t done anything about helping him to get in. We’d only just found out about him. So I think that we will prepare and encourage him to get in next time and do a bit more groundwork.

Michele: Right! Our job now is to go to the sheriff that we do have that just got voted in, and I think you just got a phone call from him.

Nancy: Yes. I thought, OK, well, first of all, I must share, once again, my ignorance. I really never thought much about voting for the sheriff in our county. It didn’t really mean much to me until recently I began to do some research. As I researched, I couldn’t believe it! To realize how much power a sheriff has in the county.

In fact, did you know, ladies, and I didn’t know before I began to look all this up, that the sheriff actually has the most, perhaps the most power of anyone else in the whole county? He has more power in his county than the president. He has more power than the governor.

In fact, he has the power invested in him, that if federal agencies were to come to our county and tell us that we had to conform to something, maybe they were telling us everybody had to be mandated to be vaccinated, or whatever. Now, if the sheriff did not agree and didn’t believe that it was for the best for “we the people,” and for the good of the people in his county, he could say, “No!” And they could not do one thing. Now that is powerful.

The sheriff is the protector of the people of the county. He can even protect us from laws and mandates from federal agencies and federal people who would maybe put their tyranny on us. But, if the sheriff resists this, because he knows it is not right or good, they can do nothing. And we have his protection. So, that’s how powerful it is to vote in the right sheriff!

Michele: Oh, absolutely! So, what do we do, now that we didn’t get our sheriff that we voted for?

Nancy: Well, I was thinking about that and thought, “Well, help, I don’t really even know this guy! Who is he? What does he believe? I don’t even know what he believes!” So, actually, today I called him.

Just before we came to do this podcast, I received a return call from him. He was very pleasant and very friendly. He is willing to come to our home. I have invited him. I said we could get at least 30 or 40 people in and we would love him to talk to us. We have many questions to ask him.

So, I’m now going to confirm the date and we’re going to be able to talk to our sheriff. We’re going to be able to ask him the questions that we want to know. Where is he in protecting us as a county? I think this is very important.

Can I ask you a question, ladies? Do you know who the sheriff is in your county? Well, I think it is a very important thing to find out who he is, and then perhaps to get to know him, and begin to ask questions and find out, is he a constitutional sheriff?

Because there are sheriffs, and there are constitutional sheriffs. We need to have in our counties a constitutional sheriff who believes and will stand for the Constitution. It all depends on us. We are the ones who vote them in. We’ll get to find out about this particular one. We trust that we will be able to be an influence on him.

Michele: Absolutely. I think that’s key, not just to have him come here and ask him questions, but also tell him, what are our desires? What are we looking for in a sheriff? And hopefully have some influence on his decisions, future decisions. And maybe things he may never have thought of or didn’t know the people really cared about. We can definitely make an impact.

Nancy: Yes. And I did read how that in 2015, 500 sheriffs agreed not to enforce any gun laws created by the federal government. That’s in 500 counties. There are obviously constitutional sheriffs in those counties who will protect the Second Amendment. That is so wonderful!

So, dear ladies, what we are seeing is that we actually begin to govern by “we the people,” from our local governments, our school boards, our commissioners, our mayors, and our sheriffs, above everyone else. If we vote in godly constitutional people locally, well, that’s all we need to do, really. If we’ve got it locally, then, well, we’ve really got it.

Michele: Absolutely. That’s grassroots. Grassroots is in your own county. That’s where it begins. A lot of these people, possibly the mayor, possibly your governor, possibly the commissioners, they’re going to raise up and they could take higher offices. They could end up in federal, which really does start at the grassroots level.

Nancy: And encouraging godly people to become commissioners and begin to be an influence in the community. So, anyway, what other ways have you encouraged your children, Michele?

Michele: Well, we mentioned last podcast that we were involved an organization called Teen-Pact, a Christian organization that teaches some basics on how governments, how things work in the judicial system, all the different branches of government. There are so many different organizations you can seek out and find at that level. Getting involved at the grassroots level.

Nancy: You’ve told me how you’ve also got your children into debating. Tell me more about that.

Michele: Yes, we’re part of a Christian homeschool speech and debate club. What that has done for our children is given them communication skills, and the power of being able to debate on a respectable level. Just to bring about ideas and change without arguing, per se. Debate is different than arguing. Also, it made them quick thinkers, able to think on their feet.

I have a son who recently turned 20 and he’s an amazing speaker. I know having the skill of the speech part and the debate part together, he has an amazing skill to be able to communicate his point of view, whether you agree with him or not, in such an intellectual way that anybody can understand him.

It’s super-powerful to teach our children skills for those things. Who knows, maybe they’ll grow up and be the politicians. They may grow up to be the county commissioners. But being able to communicate and know your values is huge.

Nancy: Yes. And they cannot move into these positions without being able to speak clearly and articulately. Also, to know what they’re talking about! Now, when Carter first started, was he able to do this?

Michele: Oh, it definitely took some practice. It took some learning. He only did it, he didn’t even get into it until he was 15. So, from the age of 15 to 18, it was amazing to watch his growth and his love for being able to interact intelligently with all people, whether it’s somebody he agrees with or disagrees with, adults or a young child, he’s able to have an intellectual stand. Being able to have that quick response and know how to communicate has been huge.

Nancy: But of course, this has helped him to develop this. I think that is important. I think of that Scripture in Psalm 127, which is one of the wonderful family psalms. Psalm 127 and Psalm 128 are all about the family. I think it’s good to regularly read them to continually update ourselves on feeling God’s heart about the family.

WE ARE RAISING CHILDREN TO SPEAK

Psalm 127:4: “As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man,” or a mighty warrior, “so are children of the youth. Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them. They shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.” Now, that’s powerful, ladies!

God tells us in His Word that we are raising arrows. We are sharpening arrows. We are refining these arrows. We are getting them ready for war. We’re getting them ready to fight in the gates, in the gates of the city, and in the gates of our nation. How are they going to do it?

It’s interesting. This is in the context of war. Then we read: “But they shall speak,” they shall speak “with the enemies in the gate.” WE ARE RAISING CHILDREN TO SPEAK! Now that’s powerful. I think we often forget that. We forget that little word. We are raising children to SPEAK.

Right from an early age, dear parents, let’s really encourage our children in speaking. I find, as I talk to lots of children, and even young people, they speak so fast I can’t understand what they’re saying. They’re mumbling, and I can’t understand what they’re saying. I know they understand one another.

I am, I know and will confess, that I am a little deaf. But even so, they’re mumbling, and they’re talking fast! They’re not really articulating.

I think we need to encourage our children how to be speakers, not just mumblers who can chat away with their peers. No, we’re raising them to speak, to be able to speak words of truth, to be able to articulate clearly, and be able to speak something that makes sense.

When children speak fast, and you know you can hardly hear them, say, “Look, can you say that again, slower and more clearly?” Get them into the habit of speaking clearly because if they don’t grow up doing it, how are you raising them to speak in the gates? Oh, yes, they can speak with their peers. They can speak with all the young people hanging around. But can they speak in the gates of the city? Or in the gates of the nation? That’s another level of speaking!

Michele: Absolutely. We have to defend our rights and our liberties. If we’re not able to communicate and speak, we can’t defend it. Liberty is precious. It’s rare, and it’s never guaranteed. It’s always threatened. It can be lost in this evil generation if it’s not defended. So, if our children are not able to grow up and be able to communicate and speak clearly, liberty can be lost in just one generation.

Nancy: Oh, that’s right. Also, they have to know what they’re talking about. We have to teach them the truths of freedom and the Constitution and so on. They need this wonderful book that we can get for them to read!

Michele: Not just books, but there are so many conservative podcasts and different medias of influence that we can present to our children. Our car time, we love listening to audiobooks. There are books, there are podcasts that we enjoy from a biblical worldview. That’s the key, isn’t it? Having a biblical worldview on all this. But there are so many different news medias. Careful, obviously. You want to find one with a biblical worldview.

Nancy: There was one time that I did this class with my grandchildren here on the Hilltop. We went through Mark Levin’s book, Liberty and Tyranny. His book, wow, it’s just packed full of very amazing words. He has a great vocabulary. So many of his words, help, I didn’t even know! We had to look them up.

We would do a chapter together. We’d read through it. We’d discuss it together. We would learn the new words that we were discovering. It was really exciting to do that with them. Of course, most of them have grown up now. But that is something you can use.

Take a book like this, even in your homeschooling. Sometimes you don’t have to rely on the curriculum. Just get a good, powerful book about liberty. Read a chapter, discuss it together, prepare questions for your children, because they need to discuss. It’s not just listening. They need to discuss these things, talk them out, so they know how to actually articulate them.

Michele: And remember them. Because we talked about in the LOVE FOR LEARNING the way you retain information is by not only hearing it. You listen, but if you can teach it to somebody else. You can write it down, but if you can teach it back to somebody else or have the interaction, that’s when you retain most of the information.

We’ve done some more things. We actually had a small group at our home once a week, for I think it was about six or eight weeks, we did a book study on something about the Constitution. It was families, so we had children, young adults there with us, and their parents. We spent six weeks, once a week. We always made it fun. What a great way to learn when you get a group together! So, just pulling different resources and getting your children involved is so important.

Nancy: Another thing I think is wonderful are freedom rallies. Whenever there’s a freedom rally, well, I love to attend with my banners and my flags. And to take the children! When we were doing a season of freedom rallies for while there, we would take all the grandchildren. It was so great to be part of. I think freedom rallies are wonderful. We had one just recently, didn’t we?

Michele: We did. There were speakers that came from all over. We took our children, and we went and supported them, and listened, and learned, and had discussions afterwards. It was a lot of fun.

Something else we’ve done, there was a state representative in our state that was running that we were supporting. We got to be in the Fourth of July parade. That was so much fun, because we got to go, and the kids got to get all dressed up and pass out stickers and get tee shirts. It was a lot of fun. Of course, they wanted to know, “Well, who is this guy?” So, we got to learn all about him before we went. But just getting involved in things like that can make a big difference.

Nancy: Now, the freedom rally that we had, it was so interesting. These people were putting on this freedom rally in our area. I got this flyer, and I looked at it, and I said, “I wonder where it is.” It said, “The Wedding Barn”! I said, “Help! That’s on our land.” Because Serene’s husband, Sam has recently built what we call “The Wedding Barn” because we so needed somewhere for all the weddings. We could never ever find the right place, or a big enough place, or this or that, so Sam decided to build one. It’s turned out the most amazing place. I think that we could squash 1,000 people in it.

Now people are finding out about it and wanting to use it for all kinds of things. So, here’s this freedom rally at the wedding barn! We were actually away that weekend. We were taking an Above Rubies retreat up in Missouri. We thought, “Oh, if only we could even just get back for a little bit of it!” We were finished, we hopped in the car, and we drove like fury, maybe like Jehu.

We got there for the last hour because it was a whole afternoon. We were able to get to see the last couple of speakers. That was great. I wish I could have got all of them. But even the one I heard was most interesting. It was the guy, because there were people who shared testimonies of things that had happened to them, even through this plandemic.

This guy had been a nurse, a male nurse for 28 years. He had been very much part of the hospital. But he got up to share that what he is seeing now. He’s finding it even hard to trust what is happening in the whole medical profession. He said that a few years back he had a heart attack and was life-flighted to the hospital. They immediately took him into the operating room, put him under, and put a stent in his heart, which he found . . . Did you hear him, or I think you had left?

Michele: I had been there all afternoon, except for the last hour. I left when you guys got there.

Nancy: Yes, yes. Well, they put a stent in his heart, and he found out later that he did not need it at all! In fact, it wasn’t as bad as they had made out. He was fine, and he was out walking in a few days. In fact, he walks two-and-a-half miles every day.

Then, just recently, he had a stroke. They said it was very, very serious, and they took him into the hospital. But actually, he said, all I did was have a loss of memory, just for a few hours, and then I was fine! I was running up and down the corridors of the hospital and they were trying to tell me, you had a serious stroke! You’ve got to be lying in your bed. We’ve got to do this to you and do that!” He said, “I was running around!”

He said, “They are doing things often just because they get money from it.” Then he told another story, how a friend, well, something was wrong with her. I can’t even remember. So, he took her to the emergency, and then they discovered, really, it was just fibromyalgia. He said, “Well, can we get this for it?” because he had been a nurse there for 28 years. He said, “I could not believe it. The doctor said, ‘Well, we can’t get that medication now because we don’t make enough money for that.”

Michele: Oh, my goodness!

Nancy: Could you believe that? He said he can hardly believe what is happening. I am finding that myself, I’ve never been one to run to doctors. I’ve always loved doctors, but I don’t believe in running to doctors for every little thing. I believe they are there for real emergencies. Often surgeons will save lives. Wow, that is so incredible! But there’s so much stuff that we can learn how to deal with in our own homes instead of running to the doctor. They give drugs, or they give, what do they give?

Michele: Pharmaceuticals?

Nancy: Yes. Well, just some pharmaceutical thing, or yes.

Michele: But then they have to give you more pharmaceuticals to cover up the side effects from the first one.

Nancy: Exactly! Because they all have side effects, I know. In fact, I have to confess that, well, I’m making a lot of confessions at the moment! But we never, ever had a family doctor the whole time we raised our children. Never had a doctor. Never actually went to a doctor.

Oh yes, I did go to the emergency room a few times when they cut their legs open, or they broke their legs, or they did this. We’d go and get them stitched up, or fixed up, or something like that. But we never actually needed a doctor! We just raised them healthily!

But now, I’m actually finding it hard to think . . . I don’t know what to do about this . . .  I really quite don’t know, because we look upon doctors as very intelligent people. But I can’t quite understand what happened to their intelligence during this plandemic, when Fauci prescribed remdesivir for covid patients. They were not allowed . . .  hospitals were not allowed to give ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine which were proved to bring healing to people. Those who took that would be healed in a few days.

But they were not allowed to give those medicines. Instead, they had to give remdesivir which is a highly toxic drug, which they developed in 2009 to treat hepatitis C. But it didn’t work. So, they brought it back in 2014 when they had that Ebola epidemic. It didn’t stop that either. But they could make a lot of money on it.

So, they brought it back for the plandemic. And doctors were actually giving it to patients. Hundreds and thousands died because of remdesivir because it causes renal failure, kidney failure, liver problems, and multiple organ failures. Now there were many doctors who did sound the alarm, but thousands blindly followed. No, I don’t think they blindly followed, because if they were a doctor, they had to have the intelligence to know what it was doing to the patients.

That makes me rather reticent to . . . help . . . just run to the hospital to a doctor who was quite prepared to give something that would make someone die! What is happening?

Michele: We had two close friends, two weeks apart, pass away from that medication. Very similar stories. One was in their 40’s and the other one was late 60’s, early 70’s. Exact same story. As soon as they got that medication, their kidneys shut down, and then they were gone. It was so unbelievable.

But the one thing from the freedom rally that I kept hearing over and over again was these testimonies of either parents with their adult children or children with their older parents that were in the hospital and how they had to advocate for them.

Then the outcome. The more they were advocated, the more they knew and were able to advocate, versus the ones that just didn’t know, and the devastating outcomes. I was like, oh, my heart was broken, because this is why we go to the doctors, why we go to the hospital, because they’re the ones who are supposed to be educated in this field in telling us. But it’s become quite the opposite.

Nancy: I know. We have to really do a lot of research ourselves these days.

Michele: And I think, too, one thing that’s lacking with a lot of doctors is just knowing the voice of the Holy Spirit. As a patient, or knowing someone who’s in the hospital, we have to rely on what the Lord tells us, and stand up, stand up for the rights, our own rights, or somebody we love. Stand up for the rights.

Nancy: Yes. Now, of course, we are facing another election very soon, our mid-term elections. Of course, we need to really be, somehow. . . I just don’t even know how it’s all going to pan out, because there’s been such fraudulence. We are living under a stolen election. We all know that.

Did you see the movie, 2000 Mules? If you haven’t, you do need to see that. I think there’s another one out now that is exposing the Dominion voting machines. There has been so much fraudulence in all this voting. We wonder how can we trust another election? We need to be in prayer and really seeking to contact, right down to the local level, of course.

Even our elections, our commissioners, they have power to determine how the elections will be done. We can contact them, and say, “Look, we want paper ballots. We don’t want to use these machines. We can’t trust them.” So, it comes again down to our local people who are in charge, to ask them to do their job so we can truly have honest elections. We can’t go on with all this forgery.

You had something to say?

FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS

Michele: I often have to remind myself and my children, for such a time as this we were created. It’s no accident that we’re here at this time. Sometimes it feels like it would be easier to give up, that it doesn’t matter. Things aren’t truthful anyway. But no, God commands us over and over in His Word to stand up and to fight. It’s no accident we’re here at this time.

Nancy: Exactly. Now, time is coming to a close. I think maybe you should just read out those last few thoughts of yours.

Michele: Yes! Just to review our four L’s: we have LOVE THE LORD, LOVE LEARNING, LOVE LABOR, and LOVE LIBERTY. If my children love the Lord, they have the foundation for life, because apart from Him, there’s nothing. And if they love learning, they will always be adding to their knowledge and skill sets, to do the things God may have before them with less limitations.

If they have a love for labor, they will have the work ethic and stamina to get the job done. And if my children love liberty, they will defend freedom and be able to exercise their rights and live a self-governed life.

Nancy: Amen! That is powerful, Michele. Thank you. Can I just close with Isaiah 59:14? This is like a description of how we are living today. “And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off; for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter. Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey.” Those who are standing against evil, who are standing for righteousness, they are becoming the victims!

“And the LORD saw it, and it displeased Him that there was no judgment and justice. And He saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore His arm brought salvation unto Him; and His righteousness, it sustained Him. For He put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon His head; and He put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.

In this hour, when justice is fallen, and truth is all turned upside down and backwards, it’s time to put on the zeal of the Lord, and to intercede, and to stand in the gap, to pray with all our hearts, and also to stand up for truth and for liberty. Amen?

Michele: Amen.

Nancy: Oh, I trust you’ve been blessed. Let’s pray, shall we?

“Dear Father, we thank You, Lord God, that Your plan is for us to live as free people. You do not want us to live under tyranny, under tyrannical government. Lord, I pray that You will teach us all to stand for truth, to stand for righteousness, and to realize the impact that we, as parents and children, as families, can have in our communities, as we realize that we are the ones who vote in godly commissioners, and mayors, and sheriffs, and those on our school boards.

“Lord God, we pray that You’ll help us to be faithful to vote in righteous people. If we haven’t got any, to encourage those who are righteous to stand and be there to protect the county, protect the people. So, Lord, we ask that You will teach us and help us not to just listen to something, but to do something. We don’t want to be hearers of the Word, we want to be doers of the Word. We ask it in the Name of Jesus. Amen.”

Blessings from Nancy Campbell

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Some more quotes about liberty for you:

“The future doesn’t belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave.”

Ronald Reagan

“If ever the time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

~ Samuel Adams

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
~ Benjamin Franklin

“Those who own the country ought to govern it.”

~ John Jay

“If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”

~ George Washington

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”

~ Abraham Lincoln

“I pity the man who wants a coat so cheap that the man or woman who produces the cloth will starve in the process.”

~ Benjamin Harrison

 

PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 222: The Four L’s of Raising Children, Part 6

Epi222picLIFE TO THE FULL w/ Nancy Campbell

EPISODE 222: The Four L’s of Raising Children, Part 6

We have come to the last L on raising children, which is giving our children a LOVE FOR LIBERTY! We are living in a nation where our young people are being programmed for an entitlement mentality where they expect everything to be given to them. The only way for this to happen is to rely on other people and especially the government! This ends in servitude. Are you programing your children for liberty? “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance,” which must be passed on to each succeeding generation!

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to The Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies! Always wonderful to be with you. I have Michele with me here again today. We’re going to talk about the last “L” of the four L’s of raising children. What is it? We kept it a secret until the last. We’re going to talk about LOVING LIBERTY. I think this is going to be a very great subject to talk about.

Before we do, I’ll just catch you up on news, what has been happening. Oh, back a couple of episodes ago, 220, that was when we told you we were having a little bit of problem with our little dog, who liked and used to like to sit beside me when we were doing the podcast.

Well, the very next night, he wasn’t the same. The next night, it was prayer meeting night, and he was sitting beside me in the prayer meeting. He began to take a little turn, so I took him out into the kitchen and turned off the light and sat with him. But then later in the evening, he took quite a few more turns, seizures which weren’t very nice. He just passed away that night.

That was the end of my little doggie, whom I have had for about 11 years. I think he would have been about 14 years old, because he was a few years old when we found him on the side of the road. This little poodle was so frightened and so scared he could hardly look up. I think he had been very abused. For quite a long time, you couldn’t even get his little head to come up. But eventually he began to receive our love and lived a very, very happy life.

Now, for the first time in many, many years, I am without a dog. I’ve always, I usually have a dog. I usually like big dogs. Most of our dogs have come . . . they’ve just turned up! Many we’ve found on the side of the road. They’ve all been absolutely amazing dogs. Now I’m wondering, what kind of dog is going to turn up? Or what God is going to bring us next? But we’ll wait and see.

We’ve just got back this last weekend from another Above Rubies retreat, this time in Mississippi. We’re now having an annual Labor Day weekend retreat in Pulaski, Mississippi. That was a wonderful time, organized by the Lanford family. A beautiful family of eight children that they have raised. Oh, most beautiful young people! In fact, one of their sons, as all their children, were there. One of their sons has actually learned the whole of the New Testament by heart!

Michele: Wow!

Nancy: He got up one night and recited a chapter or so of Hebrews. He didn’t even stammer or try to remember. It just rolled off his tongue. He’s actually learned the whole New Testament. I thought, “Wow, that’s a great testimony, isn’t it?”

This family, oh, at the end of the retreat, they did something which was very powerful. They got all their children up there, their eight children. In fact, they didn’t have their first until Connie was 34 years of age. That’s amazing, isn’t it?

Michele: That is amazing!

Nancy: They’ve got eight children! Wow! The husband, Les, was sharing how that at that time, when they were married, he wasn’t really interested in having children at all. He was a teacher, a schoolteacher. He had got with the population explosion, you know, you can’t bring too many children into this planet.

But Connie had a heart for children. She so wanted children. He gave in and they had their first two children. But then, parents on both sides were getting at them, saying, “You should not have any more children!” Somehow, she prevailed, and they had another two children. But by the time they got to four, they were sharing how that, wow, the parents were so adamant. There was one set of parents who were wanting them to even sign this document to say they would not have any more children!

Michele: Wow!

Nancy: And bring any more into the world! It was pretty tough, but at that time, Les was opening up to the blessing of children and beginning to see that all these humanistic ideas he had didn’t belong in the Bible and they didn’t belong in God’s heart. They continued to trust God and came into the total understanding of the blessing of children. They began to trust God, and they had four more, and were blessed with eight! Even though they started late. It was a beautiful testimony.

But as they told the story, they would eliminate the children, like the last four. If they hadn’t come to the revelation of God’s truth, those beautiful, amazing children would not be here. They said, “Bye, children! Walk off.” So then, there were four left. Then he talked about, OK, the two that they had, even though there was pressure and persecution, but they had them. If they had listened to their parents, they would not be here, so “Bye, you go off!”

Then it was the last two, which they hadn’t planned to have either, except that Connie was so desperate. But if they had listened to Les, where he was at that time, they wouldn’t even have had those children. So, “Bye! Off you go!”

They were there, just Connie and Les, all on their own. It was an amazing picture to see. Wow! There they were, they could have had no children, but by God’s grace, and blessing, and not listening to their parents and the world around them, they were eventually receiving the wonderful revelation of God’s truth and they were blessed with these eight amazing children. It was such a beautiful picture to see it like that.

Yes, and at this retreat, we had the Crevier family again, who have come to a number of our Panama retreats. They are the CHAMPIONS FOREVER, the basketball one-wheel cyclist family who do this great show. They are a beautiful family of God, twelve children, all loving and serving the Lord. We also had the SHAW family, a lovely family, a singing family. So, we were really blessed!

Then, since I’ve been home, since the weekend, I’ve been busy preserving, putting down beans in the freezer and preserving tomatoes. Praise the Lord, because all mine got wasted when our freezers, the plug came out somehow, and they all went to rot. Anyway, Erin still had some left on his vines. That was so amazing! So, I went and got them with the girls here and we’ve been fixing them up which has been great!

Anyway, let’s get on to our exciting subject of teaching our children to LOVE LIBERTY. Now, how did you get on to this, Michele?

Michele: Well, it started in our own home with our own children’s hearts. I noticed if they were not able to control themselves, if they weren’t able, then I had to step in, or Dad had to step in. They didn’t like to be controlled. They wanted the freedom.

Then I got to thinking, it’s comparable to the government. We don’t want to be controlled, we don’t want the government telling us what we can or can’t do, we want to be able to live in the freedom . . . it paralleled exactly with parenting. It’s to love liberty. It’s so important that we love our country, and we love the freedoms in our country and fight for them.

Otherwise, we’re going to be just like our children. We have to get on to them and sometimes tell them something over and over, and how they don’t like, they want to resist. They don’t like that. It’s the same thing that happens within our country.

Nancy: Yes, yes. It’s learning to be a people who know how to govern ourselves. A people who can govern themselves don’t need to be governed. Well, yes, it’s good to have a small government. We do need that. But we do not need an overpowering government who is controlling everything we do. But we first have to be this people who know how to govern ourselves, don’t we? I think that’s so important.

Michele: Absolutely! And the definition of “liberty,” right out of the dictionary, is “the state of being free within a society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one’s way of life, behavior, or political views.”

WE THE PEOPLE

Nancy: Yes, it comes back, doesn’t it, to “we the people.” I love how that is the very beginning of our whole Constitution. It’s “we the people.” Sadly, I think because of our public education today, our young people are not growing up with this so strongly embedded in their whole psyche.

They are more and more just handing their lives over to government. The more that people do that, well, the more the government begins to take control and becomes tyrannical. I think it’s so important in our teaching of our children to teach them the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, so that they know!

Michele: Absolutely! And then our trust, if we’re dependent on the government, our trust becomes in the government, rather than in God. That’s the way we look at it, too. In Isaiah, it commands us to proclaim liberty.

Isaiah 61:1: “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord has anointed me to bring good news to the afflicted. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and freedom to the prisoners.”

Nancy: I love that! Amen! I think it’s so important for us, we, as parents, and our children, to know the First Amendment. Do all your children know the First Amendment? It’s such a powerful statement of freedom and liberty, isn’t it? I should read it again.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

That is so powerful! That gives us complete freedom to live. And yet, back in 2020, even in 2021, we had this tyrannical mandate coming against the church, and against the right of the people to “peaceably assemble.” They were saying, “No, you cannot meet for church unless you only have this amount of people, unless you are six feet apart.” This is totally ridiculous. It was against our Constitution, and against the Bible, which says that we “must not forsake the assembling of ourselves together” (Hebrews 10:25).

Of course, maybe churches just caved in, and said, “Oh, don’t worry, folks! We’ll have our Zoom meetings.” Well, you can get a good message from a Zoom meeting but it’s not church. It’s not what God said. He said we were to assemble! ASSEMBLE TOGETHER! The Constitution tells us that the government cannot come against the right of people to assemble. Yet what happened? The people caved in! Obviously, most of the nation, even the Christians, did not even know the First Amendment!

Michele: That’s exactly what Barton said. They don’t even know our freedoms. They only know their rights. It’s so important we teach our children just the basics of our country, what we were founded on. What the amendments say? What does the Constitution say? What does it mean?

Nancy: Exactly! Now, if everyone had known that, there would not have . . . We could not have caved in, because we would have known our rights. In fact, this is how I felt when all this happened. OK, “You must not assemble at church!” And all this nonsense. I felt that the greatest thing that could have happened was that every church-going person would fill the churches to overflowing! Goodness, they couldn’t have done one thing!

By the way, was anyone ever aware of this amendment that was surpassed by the Supreme Court after the Civil War which still stands today?

“Neither the legislature nor any executive or judicial officer may disregard the provisions of the constitution in case of emergency . . .

Section 98 therefore, ANYONE who declares the suspension of constitutionally guaranteed rights (to freely travel, peacefully assemble, earn a living, freely worship, etc.) and or attempts to enforce such suspension within 50 independent sovereign, continental United States of America is making war against our constitution(s) and therefore, we the people. They violate their constitutional oath and, thus, immediately forfeit their office and authority and their proclamations may be disregarded with impunity and that means ANYONE, even the governor and President.”

Michele: Wow! That is exactly what they did!

Nancy: They did all that and nobody said anything! Because we people did not know their rights. We, as parents, have a responsibility to know and to teach our children! Amen?

What about the Second Amendment? Well, we all know that means we can bear arms, but how is it actually stated?

“A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

That is the Second Amendment.

Of course, we know they’re trying to annihilate it. But it is our Constitution, so therefore we must keep to it. We must stand strong. We must teach our children that this is part of our Constitution.

In fact, did you know that it was affirmed strongly again in 2008, with the Supreme Court case with the District of Columbia v. Heller? That was back in, when was it? I think it might have been 2008. Yes, it was 2008 when they affirmed the Second Amendment and the Supreme Court examined it very, very carefully in exacting detail.

They, once again, affirmed that this was definitely the Constitution of our nation. It actually enshrined the ancient, they said, “It enshrined the ancient Roman principle of every citizen a soldier, and every soldier a citizen.”

These are just two of our most basic amendments of the Bill of Rights that we must know, as parents, and we must impart them to our children. Just like we impart the Word of God into our children, we’ve got to impart these important things, because this determines how we will live!

Michele: Absolutely! How do we impart these to our children? Well, we start when they’re young, with self-government, and that continues as they grow. We even have to do it as adults, you know, circle back to the Lord. How do we self-govern ourselves?

But then we need to teach them the laws of our land, that there are liberties, our freedoms, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, everything. Some practical things we’ve done as a family was taking our children to the capitol. Every capitol in the United States is now open. They closed them during the plandemic, but they’re open. You can go and visit the state capitols. That’s just a small foundation you start with.

Our family has also gotten involved with a program called Teen-Pact. They run a class in every state now, I think, except for two states. All United States. They meet at the capitol building, and they have a class, a week-long class. When we were in Missouri, we were able to go as a family and participate. Most of the states are still set up that way, I believe. I’m not sure. Each one’s run a little bit differently.

Learn about the government. The children actually dress in suits, and girls in their business wear. We’d go into the capitol, and they would learn things like how they would write their own bills, how to run whole court sessions, how to get bills passed. They got to talk to the governor. They got to talk to different state representatives. It was the best experience. We’ve done it, I think, a total of five times throughout the past seven or eight years. It’s been such a good experience.

But there are all sorts of opportunities if you just look out there. Teen-Pact is for Christian organizations. They always brought back a biblical worldview, and that aspect as well. It made a lot of fun for the families, to be able to attend, to be able to do this.

There are so many opportunities, and so many things you can get plugged in. Another so-important thing to get involved in is grass roots efforts. We’ve done a lot of this, moving to Tennessee and learning the area we’re in.

We just had some local elections. Being able to get involved and meet people who were running. Take your children and meet these people. They’re running for office. They’re usually happy to come meet with you. They’ll even come in your home.

Just being able to sit down with them and find out where their views are. What’s important to you? You can learn. Your children can learn so much by meeting different candidates and figuring out which ones you want to support as a family or church. And then going out and helping them campaign.

It can be as simple as putting the signs up, or passing out flyers, or talking to other people in your church, or other families in your neighborhood. And why you support this candidate. What values they have. Do they line up with the Word of God? Those types of things. Getting your children involved is key to teaching them to love liberty.

Nancy: I love that. Actually, I have to make a very big confession, because I have to confess that I have always been so insistent in making sure that I vote in federal elections. I vote for the president and so on, but I have never really bothered much with local elections. I always thought, “Oh goodness, I don’t think they’re very important. What’s so important about them?”

Until just recently, I have realized that they are the most important elections of all! Oh, ladies, and I just want to encourage you, maybe you’re not like me. You’re really into it. Or maybe you have been like me, and you haven’t really bothered about it much.

Well, I had to change my ways! Because I am now realizing that right down to our school boards, and our county commissioners, and our mayor, and our sheriff, wow! These are the most important people, actually, in the whole nation, because they are where we live, and they will determine how we live our lives in our area.

Of course, we had to get involved, just recently, with our county commissioners, because we’re all involved in Save Lick Creek. Now, Lick Creek is the most beautiful river that we have running through Hickman County here. Serene and Sam’s land goes down onto this beautiful river. It’s so much a part of our lives here. Many of the families go kayaking. I think Evangeline and Erin kayak nearly every day in that beautiful river. It is the most glorious river. It is totally spring-fed. It’s the purest river. . .

Michele: I’ve heard it’s the second purest water form in the whole state of Tennessee. My boys are out there on that creek almost every single day. They’re out working on our land or working for somebody here. They get all hot and sweaty and they go jump in the creek. They’re out there fishing. They’re out there catching crawdads. They’re kayaking. They’re on there almost every single day.

Nancy: And they can catch beautiful trout in that river. But you know what they’re trying to do? Oh, neighboring counties are planning to pour into this beautiful, clear creek, how many billions is it again?

Michele: Twelve million gallons per day!

Nancy: Twelve million gallons per day of poop! Oh, this is beyond it. They said, “Oh, well, we will clean the water with something.” But it is never, never, never this pure water. So, we are trying to save this Lick Creek, as it is called. We’ve all been to these meetings and meeting our county commissioners. As Michele says, taking the children along too!

Michele: Absolutely! Taking them along. My older ones, even having them ask the questions, because the more they’re involved, the more they feel like they’re invested, and their interest grows. Even though my boys love this creek, I don’t think they would see quite the connection if we hadn’t gone to these meetings. They wouldn’t have asked the commissioners that were running for office how they felt. These questions about, “What are you going to do to help us save our creek?” That sparked a new level of interest and involvement. They feel like they’re part of it.

Nancy: It certainly made our eyes open to who we’ve got for commissioners! Wow! You really find out whether your commissioners are looking after you in your community, in your county, or not looking after you. I’ve had to realize I hadn’t even thought about them. I didn’t even know who they were! But now we’ve had to find out who they were, write to them, go to meetings to meet them, to find out, well, who’s worth voting for, and who’s not!

Oh, I was reading, too. I did tell you, didn’t I, about how the Lord laid upon our hearts at some of our prayer meetings, to really pray against the Georgia Guidestones, these great 19-feet granite rocks on which were written the Ten Commandments of the New World Order. We were so concerned about them. They’d been standing there for about 40 years. The first one saying, “We want to reduce the population of the world to 500 million.” That would be wiping out about 93% of the world’s population. That’s how much they hate people.

We felt a burden to pray, “Oh, God, just come, wipe them out! Bring an explosion, bring an earthquake. Do something!” Well, we couldn’t believe it! About two weeks later, we woke up to see the news of this explosion that exploded these great, huge granite rocks! Then they had to bulldoze them over for safety. That got rid of them.

Then we were thinking, “OK, what’s going to happen? Are they going to try to build them again? We’re praying against that. But then I read recently how the commissioners of Elbert County, where they are, that they decided, the Elbert County Board of Commissioners, they voted a few weeks ago to donate the debris from the mysterious “Georgia monument,” as they called it, to the Elberton Granite Association and its museum.

Well, that wasn’t as bad as rebuilding them again. But I thought to myself, “Why do they want to even save these things that were so against mankind?” And here they are, but it was the vote of the commissioners!

Michele: It shows you the power that the commissioners have. I would imagine that there are a lot of people out there who don’t even know who their commissioners are. They may not even know what district they’re in to be able to vote, because you vote per your district for your commissioners. Those are things just to . . .

Nancy: Those commissioners obviously are not really truly versed in understanding the implications of those Georgia Guidestones. They thought, “Oh, well, they were a tourist attraction, and we’d just like to donate them to the museum.”

Michele: Either that, or there were some liberal commissioners voted in. So there again, you need to know your commissioners that you’re voting for; their values and where they stand on things.

Nancy: Yes! You realize, your commissioners, lovely ladies, in your county, in the county where you live, will be determining what life is like in your county for you and for your children. So, are your commissioners liberal? Or are they conservative? Are they God-fearing? Or are they not? We have a responsibility to find out who they are and then vote in ones that are godly.

I’m realizing this. Wow! Have you got anything more to say about that because this session’s coming to an end. I think we’ll do another session! Have you got anything else to say?

Michele: I don’t know if we have time to touch on the sheriff. That can be next time?

Nancy: I think we’ll do that next time.

Michele: Because, yes, these little compartments per county, they make a difference. But I have something here I was going to share about liberty in general. Just think about life without liberty. It’s unthinkable! It’s unthinkable to be able to give up our freedoms! Who wants to live as the one at the end of the leash, being told what to do or not to do, or how they have to live their lives?

Sometimes I think it happens, even the people you’re voting for, you think they have good intentions. It’s not about having good intentions. It’s about being able to govern ourselves, and make wise decisions for ourselves and our families, to support the freedoms that our Constitution says that we have.

Nancy: A couple of quotes as we close.

Thomas Jefferson said, “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.” Our country fought for freedom, but we have to keep fighting for it. It must be passed on to each succeeding generation. Freedom will pass on through the parents. We’re either passing on this vision of freedom, or we are allowing our children to grow up in a country of tyranny.

Sadly today, our schools and our colleges are being taught the opposite of our Constitution, and our freedom rights, and “we the people”. They’re being encouraged to look to government. In fact, if you talk to most college students today, they expect that their college fees should be paid for.

In fact, they expect everything should be paid for! They don’t even seem to think that, OK, somebody’s got to pay for it. But it won’t be them! They don’t care. As long as somebody else pays for it, they want it free. Right. We are not raising children like that, with that mentality. We want to raise children who understand freedom.

“Father, we thank You for bringing this subject to our hearts, and to hear how Randy and Michele are raising their children to love liberty. Lord, I pray that we will all have that vision, Lord, in a very intense way, because things don’t happen unless we make them happen. Help us, Lord to really do something to make this happen, to pass on the truths of liberty to our children. In the Name of Jesus, amen”.

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PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 221: The Four L’s of Raising Children, Part 5

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EPISODE 221: The Four L’s of Raising Children, Part 5

More amazing points about the attitudes God wants us to have toward work. If you can put these principles into operation in your family life, it will become like heaven on earth. We will begin the last L next week. It’s going to be exciting! 

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to The Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies! Great to be with you again. I’m here in Tennessee, looking out to the beautiful green trees, with the sun shining down upon them. It’s so beautiful. And Michele Schrum is with me again. It’s not far for Michele to come because she’s living right next door to us in their RV while they are working on building their house up on the Hilltop.

And here we are, still talking on this series of raising children with the four L’s, the words starting with “L.” When Michele mentioned this to me in the course of the conversation that this was how they liked to raise their children, I thought, “Wow! That is so powerful! You’ve got to come and share it with me on the podcast.”

I thought we would do a couple of podcasts, and here we are, up to number five! This is part five now, in this series, and I don’t think we’ll finish it today. I’ve got the feeling we might need one more!

But today, we’re continuing to talk about loving labor, and teaching our children, to give them this LOVE for work. Not just, OK, teach our children how to work, but we go beyond that. We’re teaching our children how to LOVE work! That’s what we want to do, isn’t it?

Now, we are looking into the Word, as usual, because we could spout off here for hours. Really, what are you going to get, unless we bring it from the Word? I believe that . . . This is my premise in life, that everything I believe has its foundation in the Word of God. Then I know I’m on the right track.

We are looking at all the different attitudes God wants us to have about work. I found 26 different attitudes. It’s amazing how much God gives us, isn’t it? Today we’re up to number 18. We’ll finish these today.

I hope we even get onto our last point, because I think this is my most exciting one that you’re going to talk about. Oh, I’m looking forward to talking about it! But I’m not telling you what it’s going to be! [laughter] It’s going to be a surprise!

Anyway, NO. 18 ATTITUDE: WILLINGLY

Judges 5:2: “The people willingly offered themselves.” A willingness is a big attitude, isn’t it? Often, our children are not always willing to do their chores. They may do them, but sometimes they do them with a sour face and a grumbling attitude. Oh my! How are we going to teach them to do it with a willing attitude?

Well, I do believe that these Scriptures, that the Scriptures, as we get the Word into our children, that puts it into them. Well, I think two things: No. 1, the Word, and that’s why it’s so great to take your children to these Scriptures. Some of them you can write out and pin up on the wall for them to read. You can make them memory verses and encourage them this way.

Of course, secondly, it always goes back to our attitude. What do you say about that, Michele?

Michele: Oh, absolutely! Our example has been the key with every single one of these teaching our children the four L’s. One of the first things is our example, and how we live that out in our own lives. If we’re having a sour attitude or we’re not willing to labor in love, then likely they’re not either.

Nancy: Absolutely. Yes, they have to see that. This is how we live, with this willing attitude. Starting off with everything that God gives us, He talks about in His Word, we have to willingly respond. But children should see, even when our husbands ask us to do something, that we are willing! Wow! It’s just our delight to do it!

And talking about delight, a Scripture in Proverbs 31, of course, this is the description of the virtuous woman. It says in verse 13: “She seeks wool and flax and works willingly with her hands.” Now, that word in the Hebrew, chephets . . . (Actually, Darlene, my wonderful transcriber, you are absolutely amazing at checking out all these Hebrew words I give. This one is spelled C-H-E-P-H-E-T-S. Thank you for all you do).

Anyway, this word, when we go to the Hebrew, we see more of what it means. It means “to work with pleasure, with delight, with purpose.” So, that word “delight” comes in there. It’s often translated “delight.” In fact, 16 times in the Word of God that Hebrew word is translated “pleasure.” So, somehow, we’ve got to pass on that anointing that to our children, that WORK IS A PLEASURE. It’s a pleasure to work!

Michele: It is! The question comes to mind, what if your children aren’t willing? What if they don’t have that willingness? Sometimes a part of training is that they still have to do it. They still have to do the labor. They still have to do the work. But if we’re setting an example, and we’re smiling . . .

We make a lot of little jingles or songs up a lot of times. Whether it’s a Scripture song, or just a little song about, especially with little ones, about what they’re supposed to be doing. Just anything to make it little more joyful, especially when they’re younger, to help them develop that willing spirit.

Nancy: Yes, I believe that. We should try to make it pleasurable, because it’s meant to be. “She worketh willingly with her hands.” This is talking about the woman in our home. That should be our attitude. We work in our willingness. This is our pleasure. This is our delight.

So, we’re not seeing, yes, and so many duties are mundane, because it’s the same thing you do every day. You have to do the same thing over and over again to keep the home in running order. But we don’t see it as a bore. We do it with pleasure and delight because we know that this is going to bless the whole family when we keep our home in right order and we’re managing it well. A home that’s not being managed is not very nice to live in! We have to make it a place where it’s delightful to live.

The BSB (Berean Study Bible), yes, it translates it “to work with eager hands.”

The Young’s Literal translation, I like to go to check that one, because it goes right back to the Hebrew. It’s the same man who put together the Young’s Concordance. There’s the Strong’s Concordance and there’s the Young’s Concordance. This is the Young’s Literal Translation. He brings out this word “delight.” He says: “Working with delight.”

OK, let’s look at some other Scriptures.

Michele: Well, I have an example. Just yesterday, my son Niles, who’s 15, was working on the computer. He showed me, and he was watching mowing videos. He loves . . . Before we moved here to Tennessee, he and his brother had a little lawnmowing business together, Take Care Lawn Care. He has this love of mowing, which is wonderful, except right now, we don’t have any grass!

So he’s watching lawn videos, and he’s like, “Can we go ahead and plant grass?” We don’t have a house yet! I’m like, “Well, not yet.” But he was so excited to get back into mowing. Colin’s pretty particular about his yard, so he hasn’t allowed Niles to take over the mowing yet. [laughter]

Nancy: Maybe he doesn’t know how good he is! Wow! I’ll have to talk to him about that!

All right, 1 Chronicles 28:9: “Know thou the God of thy father, and serve Him with a perfect heart, and with a willing mind.” To work willingly with our hands starts with our mind and our attitude, doesn’t it?

In 1 Chronicles 28:21, it talks about “every willing skillful man.” So, even though these men had skills, the ones who were doing the work were those who were willing to do it.

I’m always challenged by Psalm 110:3: “Thy people shall be willing in the day of Thy power.” It’s always the willing people who God wants to pick up and use. I believe if we have a vision for training children to be ready for God to use them, we have to implant within them this attitude of willingness. Oh, it’s a very powerful attribute, willingness, isn’t it?

“Lord God, I pray that You will help us all. Help these precious mothers listening, Lord God, to be able to impart this wonderful attitude, Lord, just willingness. Lord, when their children are asked to do something, that they will respond with willingness. Oh, Lord, this is not something that we can just make happen. It has to be a matter of the heart. We pray, Lord, that You will give us such anointing and wisdom in bringing this to our children. In the Name of Jesus.”

I think this one will be such a good one. As I suggested at the very beginning, that you can take each one of these points, and OK, for one whole week, “OK, children, let’s work on this attitude for a week. Now Mommy and Daddy are going to work on it too, and we’re all going to do it together! In every little thing, we’re going to work on this particular one, willingness. We’re all going to do it with a willing attitude. Everything!” That would be so exciting! Wow! What a dreamy place to live in!

Isaiah 1:19: If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land.”

NO. 19 ATTITUDE: WITH A GOOD ATTITUDE

Ephesians 6:7: “Rendering service willingly, with goodwill.” Once again, that’s an attitude. We’re teaching our children to have a happy attitude and a smile on their face.

What I used to do, if my children didn’t do something with a happy attitude, guess what happened? They got another job to do! And if they didn’t do that with a happy attitude, they got another one, until they learned to do it with a happy attitude and a smile on their face. I’m glad, I think most of our children, well, I’d say all of them, and some more than others, have grown up with a very, very good work attitude. That is so important in life, isn’t it?

NO. 20 ATTITUDE: WITHOUT BEING SIDETRACKED

Oh, that’s another one, isn’t it? Have you often given your children something to do, or your one specific child something to do, but you find, oh, before they finish the job, they’re sitting in their room, reading a book or something like that!

Michele: On my way over, literally walking over here today, I gave my son Elijah, my ten-year-old, a small task. He had no problem. He had a happy heart about it, but he got side-tracked, and he was outside, melting a crayon, like a coloring crayon. I’m like, “What are you doing?” He’s like, “Oh, Mom, this is so cool!” I was like, “But is that what you’re supposed to be doing?” [laughter]

Nancy: I know! And children get side-tracked so easily, don’t they? Any little thing can side-track them. But this is a very powerful point, too. Especially as our children are getting older, we’ve got to teach them, “Stick to the job until it’s done. You don’t let all the little distractions take you away from it.”

We see a wonderful example of this. This is an example for us, too, in our wonderful calling of motherhood. Back in Nehemiah 6, Nehemiah came back from Babylon to help restore and build up the gates and walls of Jerusalem. But he had so much opposition on every front. There was opposition to him rebuilding the wall. We get opposition, too, as we are building a godly family. The enemy does not want us to do this. He will bring opposition on every hand.

Nehemiah 6:1: Now it came to pass, when Sanballat, and Tobiah, and Geshem the Arabian, and the rest of our enemies, heard that I had builded the wall and that there was no breach left . . . That Sanballat and Geshem sent unto me, saying, Come, let us meet together in some one of the villages in the plain of Ono. But they thought to do me mischief.

You see, they were trying to bring Nehemiah off the wall. They were trying to get him distracted from this great vision that he had and this great job that he was doing. They were trying to pull him off the wall, get him down from his job.

That’s what the enemy wants to do to you, dear mother. There’s so much deception all around and voices that pull you away from the vision God has given you. They even pull you away from the high calling of embracing motherhood and knowing that you are there to build your home and make it such a wonderful place. The devil wants to get you out of the home. You get all these people saying this, saying that society, the media, everything, everybody, even churches sometimes.

But what did Nehemiah do? Oh, by the way, where were they trying to get him to come? They said, “Come, Nehemiah, let’s come down to the plain of Ono.” Oh no! Oh my, isn’t that how the devil gets to tempt you? “Oh no, poor me, I’m stuck in this home with all these children! I could be out, doing my career! Oh, no!”

“Oh no! Help! I’m pregnant again! Help! How are we going to survive? We can hardly make it with the children we have!

Oh no!” And we get all these “Oh no’s!” But they’re from the devil. They are the temptations of the enemy. He’s the one who wants to bring us down to the plain of Oh no. But that doesn’t belong to the kingdom of God. That city is not in God’s kingdom. Oh no!   Whatever God gives us, He gives us the strength to do. He will be with us! Amen?

What did Nehemiah say? He was not going to come down to the plain of Ono. He didn’t even get down off the wall. And I sent messengers unto them, saying, I am doing a great work, so that I cannot come down: why should the work cease, whilst I leave it, and come down to you?He wouldn’t even come down!

Dear precious mothers, let all these temptations, these deceptions, all these voices, just let them run off you like water off a duck’s back. You speak to the enemy and say,

“I am NOT coming down! I am doing a GREAT work!

I’m doing the greatest work in this nation!

I am raising godly children who will come forth to impact this nation. I haven’t got time to come down to you!”

But these enemies, they kept on Nehemiah. They came four times to him with that message. Then, in verse five, it says they came a fifth time to him. They just wouldn’t give up. Then down in verse 10, they sent another message, the sixth time!

This time, what happened? It says here: Let us meet together in the house of God, within the temple, and let us shut the doors of the temple: for they will come to slay thee; yea, in the night will they come to slay thee. Now they’re trying to put fear in him. “Oh, come on, come down, look, we’ll hide you. We’ll go right into the Temple.”

Oh, goodness me! They were trying every way to get him to come down from his great work. What happened? Nehemiah said: Should such a man as I flee? and who is there, that, being as I am, would go into the temple to save his life? I will not go in.” You see how he was standing true to his vision. He would not come down!

Verse 12: And, lo, I perceived that God had not sent him.” Yes, all these voices, these deceptive voices that come into your mind, they are not from God. They are from the enemy! “But I perceived that he pronounced this prophecy against me: for Tobiah and Sanballat had hired him.

But he never came down. He didn’t give in. That’s a wonderful encouragement to us in our great, high calling God has given us. Don’t you be distracted. Don’t listen to them. Also, you teach that to your children.

NO. 21 ATTITUDE: WITHOUT EXPECTING ANYTHING IN RETURN

Well, that’s an interesting one, isn’t it? I remember when we were raising our children that people would always pay their children. They’d give them, I forget what you call them.

Michele: Allowance?

Nancy: Allowance! Yes, yes. They got an allowance at the end of the week. I must admit, I never really believed in it, but I thought, “Oh, perhaps I’m an awful mother. I’d better do that.” We decided we would do it, but it never worked. You know why? Because we’d get to the end of the week, and we never had any money to give them! [laughter] So, they never got it! But, really, really, should our children work for an allowance? I don’t believe it.

Michele: We’ve always told our children that, because they see some other children get an allowance, and they’ve asked before. We told them, “Why would we pay you to live in our home and clean up after yourself, just to do responsibilities that we all need to be a part of.”

Nancy: Yes! I don’t know where that came from, because, really, a home is where we are all building the home together. We, as mothers, are builders. Proverbs 14:1: “Every wise woman buildeth her house.”

God calls us builders, but our children are builders, too. The Hebrew word for children in the Bible, well, there’re so many Hebrew words for children. Oh! In my book, The Power of Motherhood, I list all the different Hebrew words. God so loves children that He doesn’t have only one word! He has a word for when they’re in the womb, when they’re just born, when they’re a little toddler, as they’re getting older. Oh, there are so many words. You just can’t believe it!

But the most common is ben. Just ben. Many Jewish names have that word in them. Ben Yochanan, the son of Yochanan. It just means “the son of so-and-so.” But the full meaning is, and you can read it in the Strong’s Concordance, “the builder of the family name.”

Our children are also building the family name and building the home. We need to remind them of that, that they are also builders. We are all in this together! When they do their chores, they’re part of blessing everyone in the home, just keeping the home going.

Michele: We had a good friend, and it stuck with me when my older ones were younger. She would always call them “get to’s.” She didn’t call them chores. They were “get to’s” because you get to participate in the family. You get to do willingly whatever the task was that laid before them. I loved that, that they get to. What an attitude!

Nancy: Yes, I like that! I think allowances, what are they really teaching our children? They’re teaching them that, what’s the word, today everybody thinks they should just get whatever they want? What is that word? It’s entitlement! Yes.

And today, so many people in society live by the entitlement principle. They think that they are entitled to everything! The world owes them everything! That is not true. We have many of our students today in our colleges believing that they should get their college education free. But they’re not working for it. Who’s going to pay for it? Someone has to pay for it. But they think they should get everything free.

That’s what our government wants to tell them. “You just get everything free!” But, of course, that never works, because it has to be paid for somewhere. We don’t want to bring our children up with an entitlement mentality, do we?

Now what does the Scripture say? Luke 17:10: “When you have done all that is commanded you, say, we are unworthy servants. We have only done what was our duty.” Well, that’s pretty powerful, isn’t it? That’s the attitude we should have. “We have only done what was our duty.” We don’t have to expect anything in return.

In fact, today, it’s very difficult, I find, to get people to do something without expecting remuneration. Yes, of course, it’s not wrong to have remuneration for what you do. That’s not wrong, and, of course, our husbands, who are providing for the home, yes, they are getting all the remuneration they can to provide.

But I think we don’t have to do everything in life for remuneration. There are things we will do and get paid for but there are some things which are gifts that God has given us. We can do them freely, and do them to bless people, or even because it’s our duty, and not expect to have to be paid. What do you think?

Michele: Oh, absolutely. That’s the servant’s heart.

Nancy: Yes!

Michele: We just had this discussion in our home, I believe it was yesterday, with my ten-year-old. Not having to have that recognition. It’s nice to be recognized sometimes and be encouraged. But to not have to have it speaks a lot about your character and who you are. If we are doing everything unto the Lord, then He’s the one who will recognize us. We shouldn’t seek recognition from man.

Nancy: Yes. Great.

NO. 22 ATTITUDE: WITHOUT GRUMBLING AND COMPLAINING

 Philippians 2:14-15: Do all things without murmurings and disputings: that ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world.” Without grumbling, without complaining; do our children hear us grumbling and complaining? What kind of an example are we setting? We’re the ones who set the terms.

NO. 23 ATTITUDE: WITHOUT SEEKING RECOGNITION

Just what you said, Michele. There it is! It’s in the Word! You didn’t make it up. [laughter]

Ephesians 6:6: “Not with eye service, as men-pleasers, but as the servants of Christ.” We do our work, not looking for what man sees, but unto the Lord. And He sees. He knows. He notices it all.

NO. 24 ATTITUDE: WITHOUT WEARYING

Galatians 6:9: “And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.”

NO. 25 ATTITUDE: ZEALOUSLY

We read of the testimony of Jesus Himself, when it says: “The zeal of Thine house hath eaten me up.” It’s in Psalm 69:9, and then, in this story, in John 2:17. This is where Jesus came into the temple and saw them selling all the oxen and sheep and doves, and making money, and doing all this in the temple, which was the house of prayer.

My! He rose up, and the Bible says that he made a scourge of cords, and He drove them out of the temple. He poured out the changers’ money, and He overthrew the tables. He yelled out, “Take these things hence! Make not My Father’s house a house of merchandise!” Wow! People must have wondered what was happening.

Then it says His disciples remembered that it was written: “The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.” Jesus showed such zeal, zealousness for His Father’s house! But I think we can also show zealousness in the way we work and that we do it with all our heart.

The last one! NO. 26 ATTITUDE: GOING THE SECOND MILE

Matthew 5:41: “And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him two miles.” That’s an amazing principle. I think that most people, even when they go to work, they usually have to clock in. When you arrive, when you leave, and it just seems the norm for most people, “OK, say five o’clock is when work finishes.” OK! On the dot of five, they finish! Whoo! It doesn’t matter if they’re halfway through something, if it’s five o’clock, they’re finished.

But, where’s the second mile? There’s only left a small percentage who are the second milers, who will think, “Oh, but look, I haven’t finished it. I think I will just stay and get it finished so it’s all done and ready.” Maybe they’re staying on five minutes, ten minutes, or even 20 minutes longer. They’re not even expecting to get double pay. But just because they want to see the job finished. They want to give that little extra. Second-milers! Wow! They are a small breed.

I remember, there is a guy who works for my son. He is indispensable to him. I know that he gets pretty big bucks, because I don’t know how my son would run his life without him. But this guy, years and years ago, came to him, and asked him for a job. He didn’t have a job for him. There was not one that was available. But he said, “Look, I’ll work for you free.” And he worked for him free. He became so indispensable that now, well, he couldn’t do without him.

He has a great career, just because he was a second miler. He wasn’t expecting to be paid for everything. He was prepared to just, “OK, I’ll just show you what I can do!” I think that’s sort of going the extra. It’s like that word that I often talk about, perisseuo, that is “more than is necessary, over the top, super-abounding, excelling.” It’s going more than is the necessary. People can be great workers who do the necessary. But then, there are those few who go beyond the necessary, the second milers.

Michele: Absolutely. That’s what sets people apart. If you’re willing to go above and beyond, that’s what sets you apart. In the workforce, even in the home, as a leader, it’s in every area of life, people who go that second mile, who go above and beyond, they’re the ones that stand out.

Nancy: Yes, so true. Maybe when you’re working on this point in your family, maybe you’re doing a whole week and you’re all working on the second-mile principle . . . it doesn’t hurt, it’s a good thing, I think, to have carrots. You know, something that they can work towards.

You can say, “OK, I’m going to be looking this week for those who go the second mile. When you notice one of your children doing more than they are asked, they’re doing something that goes beyond, well, you just make a note of that. Maybe the one who’s done that the most, they get a special prize at the end of the week so they can get into the habit.

It’s good to have a whole week, at least, where you work on one of these attitudes, so it becomes a habit in their lives. It gets into their system. Because, wow, they’ll go a long way.

If you can raise children who are second milers,

you will raise children who will go far in life.

Well, ladies, we got to the end of our principles about work. Now, next week we’re going to start the last “L.” To me, it’s the most exciting.

Michele: Should we tell them what it is?

Nancy: No!

Michele: No?

Nancy: No! We’re not telling you what it is! [laughter] It’s got to be a surprise! I can’t wait, because I do believe, in this hour in which we’re living, it is so important.

We love you!

“Lord God, bless all these darling mothers who are listening today, and all the young people, and the children. Oh, God, I pray that You will help us all to live by Your Word, by the examples You put in Your Word, by the principles You give us in Your Word. Lord, You give us so much! And there’s not one thing missing!

“Lord, we’ve got all these attitudes You want us to have. Lord, when we are all—Daddy, Mommy, children, living these attitudes in our homes, they will become places of such joy, and Heaven on earth. Lord, I pray that, Lord, that this will work out in every beautiful family listening, that, Lord, they will be able to teach their children, Lord, not how to work, but how to love to work, Lord God. In the Precious Name of Jesus, Amen.”

Blessings from Nancy Campbell

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PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 220: The Four L’s of Raising Children, Part 4

LIFE TO THE FULL w/ Nancy Campbell

EPISODE 220: The Four L’s of Raising Children, Part 4

We continue talking today about teaching our children to LOVE TO LABOR. God speaks so much about work and diligence in the Bible and also speaks strongly against laziness. Today we begin discussing all the attitudes God wants us to have towards work.

Did you know that when we work with all our might, it is the same Hebrew that is used to describe how God brought out the children of Israel out of Egypt “with His MIGHTY POWER.” That’s how we are meant to work.

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to The Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies! Here we are again, and Michele is still with me, because we are still talking about raising our children with four “L’s.” Now, of course, Michele doesn’t have to come very far, just pop over. How far?

Michele: About one minute. [laughter] I’m not spending very much on gas!

Nancy: No, you are not! They are living in an RV, right next to our home while they are building up on the Hilltop.

Now, we haven’t finished yet about teaching our children to love labor, because I think it’s important to talk about all the different attitudes God wants us to have about work. As I have studied the Word, I have found 26 different attitudes God has explicitly given us about work. And maybe I have missed some. I always find so many, but often, as I’m reading the Word months later, ooh, I’ll find another one! It’s amazing!

Oh, there’s so much in the Word about everything we need, isn’t there ladies? And all the practical things. Getting down to business. Working in our homes. Trying to teach our children how to work. No, that’s not the thing. We’re not teaching our children how to work. We’re teaching our children how to LOVE work! Of course, in doing that, this really affects our whole home, doesn’t it?

So, I’m going to give you these different attitudes that I have found in the Word of God. You could actually, ladies, take one for a whole week, and say, “Children, we’re going to try and put this attitude into our work modes this week. Let’s see what we can do.”

In fact, you could even have competitions, like you could put each name of your children up on the fridge. Each day, as you see your children handling one of their chores, or even doing something without being asked, well, that’s a cool one! You will give them certain points. At the end of the week, the one who has the most points of doing their work with this attitude can get a special prize.

Michele: We have something similar to that. When I was pregnant with my twins, when I was only 15 weeks, I was on bedrest all summer with them. That’s another story.

Nancy: Maybe you’ve got to tell that story sometime.

Michele: Absolutely, yes, they’re miracle babies. I had other children in the home. So, what do you do? You make competitions. I had housework to be done that I couldn’t do. I couldn’t even have them help me do it. My husband was so busy, working and doing all the things that I normally would do.

So, I would do little competitions. We would get grandparents involved. One day, it was actually my oldest daughter and her best friend, who was a daughter. We’re very close to the family. She came over, and we had a competition for bathrooms, of all things.

Whoever could clean their bathroom, whoever’s bathroom was the cleanest, was going to go out for ice cream with my mom, with Nana. Needless to say, with Nana, they both got to go for ice cream. But I had very clean bathrooms and they were so excited! They were amazing things to incorporate. Just fun competitions.

Nancy: Yes, I love that idea! It’s great to have these things in our homes. We can put a carrot in front of them. It’s not wrong to do that. God gives us incentives all through His Word. I think that’s so great. You can try out these things in your home.

Now, NO. 1 ATTITUTE: ABOUNDING

We find this in 1 Corinthians 15:58: Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye steadfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labor is not in vain in the Lord. What does it tell us there? To abound as we work, and especially in our work for the Lord.

But everything we do is for the Lord, every little mundane thing in our home. It doesn’t matter what it is, doing the dishes, cleaning the toilets, changing diapers, scrubbing the floors, whatever. Every mundane thing is a work unto the Lord. Our homes are a sanctuary unto the Lord. Everything we do is worship unto the Lord.

As you do a mundane task in your home, unto the Lord, with joy in your heart, doing it not normally, not just in an average fashion, but doing it over the top, even greater than anyone’s ever done it before, you are worshipping the Lord. And God delights in it.

That word “abounding,” and you’ve heard me tell you this Greek word before. It’s the word perisseuo, which means “to be excessive, to excel, over the top, going beyond what is necessary, super-abundant.” This word is beyond the normal. It’s not doing something, well, you just do it because you’ve got to do it. “OK, clean the bathroom, well, just wipe them around.”

No! It’s doing it more than is necessary. It’s over the top! It’s excessive. In the Bible, the lifestyle of the Kingdom is actually excessive. It’s always more than the normal. This word, that’s what it means. We’re to abound.

OK, ladies, what do you reckon? Do you think you could share that with your children this week? You could say, “OK, children, this is what the Bible says.” You could even write this Scripture out, type it out, put it in big letters up in your kitchen. That’s King James. You might like to do it in another translation if your children are more used to that.

Then you could even write underneath, “Abounding,” and then write what the word means underneath it. Listen to it again as I have just shared it with you and write it out! Big letters! “Now, children, I’m going to do a competition this week. I’m going to be watching, and I’m going to be noticing. Everyone that does one of their chores, who does it in an ABOUNDING way, more than is even necessary, they’re going to get so many points.”

You work out how you want to do it. “And then, the one who has the most points at the end of this week is getting a prize.” Make it something worthwhile, something really worthwhile. Maybe, as Michele shared, you go out to have something special with Mom, or with Dad, or with grandparents, or maybe a guest. Something you think they would really love. What a fun week it will be! Just imagine, the whole family working with that attitude? Can you imagine it? Well, that’s meant to be normal.

Michele: Absolutely. Just think how that’s going to carry over as they become adults, if they work, with that work ethic, as adults. Now, you just discussed it earlier. When people have a nine-to-five job, they’re good if they stay until five. Usually a minute or two, not going over, not working abundantly.

My son, who’s going to be 20, just the other day, two days ago, he’s like, “Mom, I found this internship. I’m going to talk to this person who knows more about it.” He was so excited about it! It was for a Christian organization with internal bookkeeping, all numbers and finance. I’m like, “Oh, that’s great! How much does it pay?” He’s like, “Mom, it pays experience!”

It’s not a paid internship, but he knew the knowledge and experience he could gain would put him far ahead in the future. It would open up doors and possibilities and increase his knowledge and learning. His willingness to go above and beyond, past the requirements.

Nancy: Yes, oh yes! Amen! I’m excited to think of what’s going to happen. I’d love you to even email me and write and tell me what great things happened as you began this attitude in your home.

NO. 2 ATTITUTE: AS TO THE LORD AND NOT UNTO MEN

I’ve got all these in alphabetical order so that’s how I’m giving them to you. As to the Lord, and not unto men. That’s Ephesians 6:5-7 and Colossians 3:23. I think you shared this, didn’t you, last time. “Whatsoever you do, do it heartily, as unto the Lord, and not unto men, knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward.” Amen.

NO. 3 ATTITUDE: DILIGENTLY

Proverbs 12:27: “Diligence is a man’s most precious possession.” Yes.

What about Jeremiah 48:10? “Cursed is he who does the work of the Lord with slackness.” Wow. That’s not good, is it?

And then Romans 12:11 in the J. B. Phillips’ translation says: “Let’s not allow slackness to spoil our work.”

That same Scripture in The Good News Bible says: “Work hard, and do not be lazy.” We teach our children to be diligent. Diligence is a very godly attitude.

NO. 4 ATTITUDE: FAITHFULLY

2 Chronicles 24:12 talks about the men who did the work faithfully. You’ll remember this Scripture, Matthew 25:21 and 23, and Luke 16:10: “He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much.” That’s a very good principle to teach our children, that as they learn to be faithful in little tasks, God sees it, and He will open up bigger doors for them.

Sometimes I’ve had women write to me, and they will maybe send in a poem. They say, “Can you publish this poem in Above Rubies?” Well, maybe it’s a lovely poem, but I don’t always find room. Usually, poems are to fill in a little space that I have. I don’t always have the spaces to fill in all the poems.

I will write and say to the lady, “Thank you for your lovely poem. I may not be able to put it in Above Rubies. We’ll see how I go. But if I don’t have room, don’t wait for your poem to be published. Share it now. Send it to some friend who needs encouragement. Write it out in a beautiful card for someone and send it to them. Do things in a little way. You don’t have to be published in a magazine, or even in a book. When God gives you something, even that you write, you don’t have to wait to do it in a big way. Do it in a little way.”

I think that I am doing Above Rubies today (and have been doing it for the last 45 years) but before that, when I was young, and I was actually teaching back in New Zealand, we didn’t have the big summer holiday like you do in the US. We would have more holidays throughout the year, but they were shorter.

In those times, because I had those holidays as a teacher, I would spend them in going to work in Christian camps among young girls they would bring in from all these unsaved homes. We had the opportunity to lead them to Jesus. Then they would go home, and I would think, “Goodness me, they’re going home. They’re never going to hear about Jesus again. They’re not even going to be discipled. My, they need such help!”

I began to write to these girls. I ended up writing to maybe about a hundred girls. It was just a little thing, but I believe, as I was faithful to write to these girls, to encourage them in their faith, and in some little way disciple them, that that laid the foundation for one day doing this magazine.

I don’t think that I would be doing Above Rubies today if I hadn’t been faithful to begin writing those letters to all those girls, away back then, even before I was married. I believe we have to learn to be faithful in the little things, don’t we? When we’re faithful in that which is least, well, we will be more likely to be faithful in that which is much.

NO. 5 ATTITUDE: FERVENTLY

 Romans 12:11: “Not slothful in business, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord.”

I like The Living Bible, which says: “Never be lazy in your work, but serve the Lord enthusiastically.”

Another translation says: “Serve the Lord with spiritual fervor.”

It’s like everything we read in the New Testament. We always read these adjectives. Everything in the Bible is not the average or normal. It’s over the average. We don’t just serve the Lord. We serve the Lord fervently. We’re finding out all these other ways of how we are to work, and how we are to serve the Lord. What do you say, Michele?

Michele: Oh, absolutely. I can tell the difference in my children when I’m fervently serving the Lord, or if I’m passive, or just reluctantly serving. In my work, or my labor, whatever I’m doing, if I’m enthusiastic, my children are likely to be enthusiastic as well.

Nancy: Yes. I think we really set the tone. If we want to teach them to love labor, that’s what we’re talking about, to love labor. This is one of the things that Michele and Randy, one of their premises in training their children, is not just teaching their children to work, but to love work. We have to have all these attitudes toward it, don’t we?

NO. 6 ATTITUDE: FOR THE GLORY OF GOD

1 Corinthians 10:31: “Whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.” That means every little thing, every little mundane thing. Those things that we have to do over and over again, every day.

I believe this is the greatest reason of all. I’m actually putting all these points in alphabetical order, but I believe this is, perhaps, the most important. Everything we do, we do to the glory of God.

Wow, what a difference that makes in our own lives, mothers, doesn’t it? If we have that attitude, and everything we do is to His glory, the little things and the big things, we teach our children. That’s why it’s so important to take some of these Scriptures as memory verses. Pin them up on your wall in big letters. Get the children to memorize them so that they’re part of their lives. So, they’ll grow up knowing, “Whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.” Amen.

Michele: Amen!

Nancy: Yes!

NO. 7 ATTITUDE: HARMONIOUSLY

I have many Scriptures here. What I’ll do, ladies, is when I do the transcript, I’ll put all these Scriptures in for you (at the end of this transcript). But all the Scriptures that I have here about how Paul writes, and other servants of the Lord write, saying: “We are laborers together, workers together.”

Many other Scriptures say: “We are fellow laborers, fellow workers, fellow helpers, fellow servants, fellow soldiers, even fellow prisoners.” They were in everything together as they worked for the Lord. That’s another thing too, I believe, is teaching our children how to work together. What do you think about that, Michele?

Michele: Oh, absolutely. The things that can be accomplished when you work together. We have this thing in our home. We do a 15-minute quick clean-up. If just one of my children are missing out of the bunch, it is amazing what a difference that makes. They are truly missed, because if we can work together, and we’re doing it unto the Lord, we can harmonize together, wow! What a difference that makes.

Nancy: I used to have a “one-two-three.” We’d all go for it. As you say, when everybody works, well, it’s so great! Teaching our children to work together, to flow together, prepares them for the future time when they can work with people. Some people don’t know how to work with people. That is a very important thing. It’s a biblical thing. When we read about how they worked together, they were fellow laborers.

NO. 8 ATTITUDE: HEARTLY

Colossians 3:23: “Whatsoever you do, do it heartily.” That word means “to do it with strength and valor, and all the power that you have.” Actually, that was on my little card. I wrote some things. I brought them up to here where we are podcasting, and I can’t even find them!

But I had written down how many times this same word “heartily,” is translated “strength” in the Bible. “Strength” most times, and “power” was the next, over 40 or 50 times for each one. Verses like, how God brought them out of Egypt with His mighty power. When we think of what God did, to bring the children of Israel out of Egypt, wow! He bared his mighty right arm. He did such great and mighty acts to bring them out.

That’s the same word that’s used here, “Whatsoever you do, do it heartily.” That’s the same word that describes God baring His mighty right arm to bring the children of Israel out of Egypt. Perhaps one of the greatest miracles that were ever seen on earth is what happened there.

It’s an incredible word. It’s not just a little word. It’s a mighty word. This is how God wants it to work, and to teach our children how to work like this. Sometimes it may pay to take one of these Scriptures for a whole week and work it out in your home life together, so we really get it into our lives.

(So sorry, ladies, this meaning above that I gave you for “heartily” is not correct. It is for No. 14 MIGHTILY! What I said was true, but it Is not for “heartily” but “mightily”! We’ll get to that point. I was getting ahead of myself).

NO. 9 ATTITUDE: HUMBLY

We see many examples in the Word of God, even in Jesus Himself, where it says: “The Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.” Jesus said” “I am among you as He that serveth.”

Sometimes we think all we do is serve around our homes. But that’s what Jesus came to do. It is a beautiful God-thing. It’s a beautiful Jesus-thing to do, to serve. We remember, in John 13, how Jesus arose, and He washed His disciples’ feet. Usually that job was done by a lowly servant. As people came into a home, the servant would wash their feet. But Jesus didn’t leave it to the servant. It says that He washed their feet. He had that spirit of the servant.

Paul was the same. In 1 Corinthians 9:19, it says: “I made myself a servant unto all.”

We look at 1 Peter 5:5. In the Williams translation it says: “You must put on the servant’s apron of humility to one another.” Isn’t that a wonderful translation? “The servant’s apron of humility.” I like wearing aprons. Do you ever wear aprons or you’re not an apron person?

Michele: Oh, actually I do. Sometimes I can’t find them, because my six-year-old likes to wear my aprons as well. She has her own, but she likes mine. [laughter] But I notice the difference after I make dinner whether I had an apron or not.

Nancy: Oh, I know! I’m just one of those who has to wear an apron. When I come up to start preparing the meal, I put on my apron because I must be a very messy cook, or something! I will mess up my clothes if I don’t wear an apron. It’s just part of my habit, to put on an apron, and even my aprons are so stained and dirty!

I do have some nice ones that I actually keep for when company is coming, because my day-to-day ones get . . . I’ve washed them, but they still look so stained, because they really get messed up, because I’m really working. But I love to remind myself that when I put on my apron, it is a servant’s apron. A “servant’s apron of humility.” I'm working to serve my family, so it’s also a good reminder.

Michele: I was about to say the same thing. When I do put on an apron, it reminds me of what I’m doing. I seem to be more purposeful.

Nancy: Well, you know that “I’m here to work! I’ve got my apron on!” When I haven’t, when I am doing it a little bit half-pie, so I don’t get my dress mucked up or something like that. When I get my apron on, wow! I can go to work! I love that.

Then, of course, we have that beautiful picture of the woman in 1 Timothy 5:10. This is in the passage where Paul is writing to Timothy, to give him answers of what to do about the widows in the church. He seemed to have many widows.

Paul said to Timothy, “Well, make sure that their families look after them, their children or their grandchildren. But if they don’t have any family to care for them, if they have lived a certain lifestyle, then I want you to provide for them from the church and look after them.”

So, we have to look at the lifestyle. As we do, we see that this is the lifestyle that God has for women. “Well reported of for good works.” And what are they? “If she has brought up children.” That’s No. 1 on the list. Did she embrace children? How did she raise them?

Well, the word “brought up” is teknotropheo, and it literally means “to feed, to feed and cherish your children with food, pamper them with food.” It’s all about cooking and feeding. That’s such a big part of our motherhood, isn’t it? It’s a big part of our serving.

We actually teach our children this whole attitude when we prepare our meals with joy, and we’re serving with joy. We put on our aprons. We go to it, because we are blessed to serve our family. Preparing meals for them is such a beautiful way to serve them.

But then it carries on. What else does she do? “If she has lodged strangers.” Well, that’s opening her doors in hospitality. Of course, that’s cooking, too. It’s all to do with cooking. Then, “If she has washed the saints’ feet.” When people came into a Middle Eastern home, they washed their feet as they came in the door because they were so dusty. They didn’t want to bring all that dirt and dust into the house. Of course, what did they come in for? To eat.

Then again: “If she has relieved the afflicted.” She’s ministered to the poor and the needy. You can’t do that without taking food. This whole Scripture is all about food and cooking. It concludes: “If she has diligently followed every good work.”

The Good New Bible says: “Has she performed humble duties?” It brings out that spirit of humility again.

NO. 10 ATTITUDE: IN THE FEAR OF THE LORD

Psalm 2:11: “Serve the Lord with fear.”

Go to the New Testament, Hebrews 12:28: “Serve God acceptably, with reverence and godly fear.” Everything we do, we do in the fear of the Lord. That even comes down to work! Everything we do, we do it “in the fear of the Lord.”

NO. 11 ATTITUDE: IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS

 Colossians 3:17: Whatsoever you do, in word or in deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus.” There’s another wonderful Scripture to memorize, isn’t it? Oh, these are powerful Scriptures for our children, aren’t they?

Michele: Oh, absolutely. Even though my children are grown up, so many of these that you’re reading are ones that we memorized, or we have hanging on our walls.

Nancy: I love these Scriptures for memorizing because this is what we want to get into our children. We’re getting them this LOVE TO LABOR, this LOVE TO WORK! Work shouldn’t be, “Oh, I’ve got to do my chores.” No, we never give that impression to our children! All the things that we do are all to help keep the family going and keep it going smoothly. We’re all working together, remember? That’s one of the points, working together.

So, we are imparting these principles into their lives, these wonderful biblical principles. Everything in the Name of the Lord Jesus.

NO. 12 ATTITUDE: JOYFULLY

Do you remember, ladies? We did six podcasts about the land of motherhood being a JOYFUL LAND. Of course, that’s all part of working joyfully in our homes, too, isn’t it? I will have already talked so much about that.

NO. 13 ATTITUDE: LOVINGLY

Galatians 5:13: “By love, serve one another.”

1 Thessalonians 1:3: In the J. B. Phillips’ Translation it says: “Your love has meant hard work.”

Hebrews 6:10 also gives us this: “For God is not unrighteous, to forget your work and labor of love, which you have showed toward His name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.” That word really is “serve.” “That you have served the saints, and you do serve.”

But do you notice here, ladies, that phrase, “your work and labor of love”? How do we show love? Well, we can love people in our hearts, but we have to show our love. How do we show love? By working! We have to serve. We have to work.

Now, in our homes, of course, we want to show love to our husbands. Well, OK, we can think, “All right. I love my husband.” We even say to them, “I love you.” I love to say that at least once a day, hopefully more! Because I want him to know I love him. But the greatest way I’m going to show that I love him is how I serve him, what I do to show I love him.

It’s the same with our children. Everything we do in our home it takes work! It takes serving. It’s not just work. It’s showing our love. Work and love are twins. That’s something I think we need to get into our brains.

Michele: Absolutely! What drudgery if we’re not doing this unto the Lord and we’re not doing this joyfully. All these things go together. They work together. We need each part, but yet it’s not a hard thing, if we’re doing it unto the Lord and if we’re having a joyful attitude about it.

Speaking of laboring, and all the food and stuff, it’s my twins’ birthday today.

Nancy: Really?

Michele: Yes, truly! 15! They’re 15! So, my six-year-old and I, and my ten-year-old have been decorating this morning, because they wanted to go to work today. I tried to take them bowling, and they’re like, “We want to go to work!” So, they’re working today. And they’re coming home tonight for their surprise birthday dinner. My daughter’s all excited to make the surprise birthday dinner this afternoon.

Nancy: That’s Ruthie. She’s only six! So, she’s going to be working?

Michele: Absolutely. And then Elijah’s got his garlic bread he wants to make, so he’s going to be in there, too. Just getting our children excited about labor and about serving, oh, it makes all the difference in the world.

Believe me, we have the days where it’s whining and complaining. Sometimes it’s me! And I have to go back to Scripture, and “OK, this is not the right heart. Why am I doing this? This is miserable!” If we can install that and set an example for our children that we can do work and labor joyfully, oh my goodness, it’s a game-changer. It’ll change their life.

Nancy: Yes. So, what is Ruthie making?

Michele: Well, Ruthie and I are making together, we’re making homemade meatballs. One of my sons requested spaghetti. We’ll do regular spaghetti, and then we’ll probably do spaghetti squash. But we’re going to make the homemade meatballs to go along with it.

Nancy: Wonderful! Usually as our children were growing, every birthday party they could have their favorite meal, what they wanted. But isn’t it so lovely, she’s wanting to work and help, why? Because she loves her brothers.

That’s how we show love, isn’t it? Work and love, labor and love are twins. Remember that dear mothers. Teach your children that. Labor and love are twins. They go together. We don’t really, if we’re not prepared to work, we’re not prepared to show love.

Well, sometimes I think, “Oh, dear,” because even on Sundays we have a fellowship meal. So, everybody brings a dish. It’s so precious. Oh, I just love it. This is what church is all about. It's not coming to listen to a message and go home. No, it is assembling together, to minister to one another, to fellowship with one another, and pray for one another. Get to know one another.

A great way to do that, of course, is to eat with one another. That’s so great. Eating and fellowshipping go together. But I am amazed. Many times, we get left with all the dishes. Then all the tables to put away. Sometimes people forget. OK, they do love one another, but they forget to put the little bit of work in. It’s something we do all need to be reminded of, isn’t it? That love is also work.

1 Thessalonians 1:3. I did give you the Phillips’ translation, but the King James says: “Your labor of love.” He was remembering “your labor of love” when he talked to the Thessalonians. “In our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God, our Father.” Everything we do is in the sight of the Lord, isn’t it?

1 John 3:18: My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. That word “in deed” there is the Greek word ergon. It means “to make, to work, to do.” So, we’ve got to get love (which we want in our hearts), but we’ve got to get it out of our hearts into our hands and our feet and do a little bit of work to go along with it. That’s how we really show our love. Amen?

NO. 14 ATTITUDE: MIGHTILY

 Oh, you know what? I was talking to you about “heartily.” Yes, heartily. And I was talking about the Hebrew word, but actually the Hebrew word I wanted to talk about belongs to this one, “mightily.” They’re so closely associated. Mightily.

Ecclesiastes 9:10: “Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thine might.” This was the Scripture where it talks about God bringing the children out of Egypt with His mighty power. That word is translated 47 times with the word “power” in the Old Testament, many talking about God’s mighty power. It’s talking about how He “maketh the earth by His power.” Wow!

Those are powerful things! That’s how God wants us to work. It means “force, strength, power.” The word “strength” is translated “strength” 58 times. I’m sure you made that a memory verse for your children.

Michele: Yes, we have. That’s definitely one of them.

Nancy: If you haven’t, make that a memory verse. What a fun week, ladies, to put this Scripture up on your wall, big letters. Get everybody learning it. When you have family devotions together, all say it out loud.

Then you can talk about it with your children. “OK now, how can we really do this today, children? Can you think of something you can do today with all your might? We want to do everything with all our might, but is there something special you could do today? Thinking about how God even made the world with all His might! Because that’s the same Hebrew word. And He brought the children of Israel out of Egypt with all His might.”

You could think of some job, not just one of your chores, but something extra. Yes, give your children the challenge of thinking of something extra to do that they could do with all their might. It’s a bit like, back when we were raising our children, and it came to Christmas time. Our children would love to buy Christmas presents for one another. We didn’t give them money to do that. If they wanted to do that, they had to work for it.

NO. 15 ATTITUDE: NEVER GIVING UP UNTIL YOU FINISH

Wow! That’s a good point, isn’t it?

Michele: Oh, yes. We have many, many times . . . How many times do I have to call my children back in to finish the job they didn’t complete? It’s never fun. It’s a lot more fun to do it right the first time.

Nancy: I know, I know. That’s another very important principle to teach them. We learn this, of course, from examples in the Word of God. Zerubbabel, in Zechariah 4:9: The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it.”

What did Jesus say? John 4:34: My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

He also said: “I have finished the work which Thou gavest me to do.”

Remember what Paul confessed? Acts 20:24: “None of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy.”

He also said in 2 Timothy 4:7: “I have fought a good fight. I have finished my course. I have kept the faith.” Another wonderful biblical principle.

NO. 16 ATTITUDE: RELYING ON GOD

Jesus said: “Without Me, you can do nothing.”

NO. 17 ATTITUDE: THANKFULLY

Colossians 3:17: “And whatsoever you do in word or deed, do all in the Name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father, by Him.” Doing it with thanks. “Thank You, Lord, that I have the privilege to serve my family, to work for my family, to labor in my home! What a privilege! Thank You, Lord. I thank You for these wonderful opportunities.

TWELVE BASKETFULS OVER AND ABOVE

Now, do we have this great, amazing, thankful spirit? Oh, I often think of that wonderful principle in John 6, where Jesus is . . . Well, the Word of God is telling the story of Jesus. He fed the 5,000. This beautiful miracle is told in the four gospels.

Here in John 6:13, it tells us about how Jesus fed the 5,000. He didn’t just do what He had to do. But He did it over and above. More than is necessary. It tells us these very words, that there were 12 basketfuls of food, “over and above” what were needed to feed all the people. That little phrase, “over and above,” is the Greek word perisseuo, which I have talked to you about so many times, because it keeps popping up!

In the New Testament . . . It’s just what the New Testament life is all about. It means “super-abounding, exuberant, excelling, over and above, more than is necessary.” It’s more than what is the average. Here we see a beautiful example, where when Jesus had to feed the multitude, He didn’t just feed them, and they just had enough to eat. No, there were 12 basketfuls left over! Over and above!

That’s the kind of attitude we should have in our lives, precious ladies, and teach our children that everything we do, we do it over and above. We don’t do just what we have to do. We do more than what is necessary! More than what is necessary. When we have to do a job, do we just do, “OK, we’ve got to do the dishes”?

Well, we’re teaching our children to do that, because as they’re growing, we’re teaching them how to do these things. We have to teach them how to do it. Do they just do the dishes, and then kind of wipe the counter, half-pie? You go back, and oooh, it looks so messy! Or do they leave it so spic and span, so clean that there’s not a thing left! There’s not a crumb, and everything is shining, and the floor is swept. They’ve just done it, over and above!

Now, this is an amazing principle. Sometimes we can have maybe a little bit. We’ve got maybe one basketful over. We do that much. But I wonder how many basketfuls we could have over. Two? Three? Four? Five? How much over can we do things when we are doing them? Jesus shows this principle of twelve basketfuls over. Don’t you love that?

Michele: Oh, it’s so good! It was last night that I had to get one of my boys, he’d just laid down. I had to get him back up because his job was the dishes. He did the dishes, but when I looked in the sink, it was messy. All the leftover food and everything was all in the sink. He was like, “But I did the dishes!” I’m like, “Oh, but come look at the sink!”

Again, it’s that, “do it right the first time with a joyful heart.” Put everything into it and go above and beyond. It’s the people who go above and beyond who get the promotions. They get recognized. They stand out from the crowd and work hard to be set-apart. Not set-aside but set-apart. This is one more way that we can be set-apart as Christians, is to go above and beyond.

Nancy: Exactly. Oh, yes! It is true. It’s those people in life who get to the top, not the people who just do what they have to do, but those who do more than what they have to do. It’s an incredible principle.

But time has gone, ladies. We have just a few more. We’ll just finish off next session, and we’ll begin the next one, the next “L.” This is going to be a powerful one. You won’t want to miss!

Oh, I must tell you too, ladies, we’ve had quite an eventful podcast today. You wouldn’t know what was going on, but behind the scenes, just at the beginning of the podcast, my little dog, my little, what do I call him? He’s a . . .

Michele: Pug? Poodle?                                       

Nancy: Yes, a poodle! [laughter] We found him on the side of the road, I think, goodness me, cannot even remember, 10, 12, 15 years ago? So, he’s getting older, and we don’t even know how many years he was when we got him.

Well, he took a turn, and we had to stop and look after him. Then he vomited, and we had to stop and look after that. So, we’ve been attending to him in between talking to you today! But anyway, we always keep going, no matter what’s happening!

Let me pray for you.

“Dear loving Father, we thank You so much, that You haven’t left out one thing in Your precious Word. You have filled it with how we are to live, how we are to work. Lord God, work is part of who You are.

Lord Jesus, You said these words, “My Father works, and I work.” And Lord God, You gave this principle to us at the very beginning of time. We pray, Lord, that as we embrace this principle with all these wonderful ways You tell us to work, that we can pass them onto our children, that we will raise young men and women who know how to work.

We’re living in a day of such laziness, and such wimpiness. So many who don’t know to work. Lord, we pray that You will help us to teach our children to be those who go beyond just the barest minimum, who will work with a great, wonderful, overflowing spirit, Lord. They will not just do what has to be done, but they’ll have many basketfuls over and above.

Help us all to have this wonderful attitude, Lord God. Bless all the darling ladies and children and young people who are listening today. Pour out your blessings on them, I pray. In the Name of Jesus, amen.”

Michele: Amen.

Blessings from Nancy Campbell

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SCRIPTURES FOR NO. 7. WORK HARMONIOUSLY WITH OTHERS

One of our biggest challenges is to teach our children to work amiably and harmoniously with one another. We cannot give up as we teach them how to do this as it paves the way for the success of their future lives. Many people miss out on many blessings because they have not learned how to work with others.

Paul loved to work with others and always took one or more laborers with him when ministering the gospel.

1 Corinthians 3:9: “We are laborers together with God.”

2 Corinthians 6:1: Workers together with Him.”

 

Let’s look at more believers who knew how to work alongside others. These were some of Paul’s co-workers.

ANDRONICUS AND JUNIA: “My kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners” (Romans 16:7).

ARCHIPPUS: “Our fellow soldier (Philemon 1:2).

ARISTARCHUS, MARCUS and JUSTUS: “These only are my fellow workers for the extension of God’s kingdom” (Colossians 4:10, 11 AMP). I love WAY’S translation which calls them my fellow-toilers.”

CLEMENT: “And the rest of my fellow workers whose names are in the Book of Life” (Philippians 4:3 (AMP).

EPAPHRAS: “My fellow prisoner in Christ Jesus” (Philemon 1:23). And “our dear fellow servant (Colossians 1:7).

EPAPHRODITUS: “Companion in labor and fellow soldier (Philippians 2:25).

MARCUS, ARISTARCHUS, DEMAS, and LUCAS: “My fellow laborers (Philemon 1:24).

PHILEMON: “Dearly beloved and fellow laborer (Philemon 1:1).

PRISCILLA AND AQUILA: “My fellow workers in Christ Jesus, who risked their own necks to save my life” (Romans 16:3-5).

TIMOTHY: “Our fellow laborer in the gospel of Christ” (1 Thessalonians 3:2) and “my workfellow (Romans 16:21).

TITUS: “My partner and fellow helper” (2 Corinthians 8:22) and “true yokefellow” (Philippians 4:3).

TYCHICUS: “A faithful minister and fellow servant in the Lord” (Colossians 4:7).

 

PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 219: The Four L’s of Raising Children, Part 3

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LIFE TO THE FULL w/ Nancy Campbell

EPISODE 219: The Four L’s of Raising Children, Part 3

Michele and I speak today about teaching our children to work. No, not how to work, but how to LOVE TO LABOR! How do we instill this love to work in our children? Check it out.

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to The Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies! Well, Michele is here with me again! Our third podcast together, and we’re going to start another word that begins with “L.” What is it today, Michele?

Michele: LOVE LABOR.

Nancy: Whoa! Love labor! Teaching our children how to love work. We didn’t say how to work. No, how to LOVE work. There’s a big difference, isn’t there?

But, before we even get onto that, I still have something to share from last week about loving to learn. I mentioned, of course, in the last two podcasts, how important it is to learn, but first of all, how to listen. We need to learn the art of listening to know how to obey. We need to learn the art of listening in order to know how to learn. It comes from listening. There are two very lovely words about listening in the Bible. Many, of course, but the two main ones I’d like to share with you.

The first one is in that story in 1 Kings 3:3-14, where God came to Solomon and said: “Solomon, ask Me what you like.” And what did Solomon ask for? He asked for a listening heart, a hearing heart. Now, we don’t often pick that up as we read it. I’ll read it here for you. 1 Kings 3, looking for it here.

Michele: Well, as you look for that, it reminds me of how Solomon had a teachable spirit. If you want to hear and listen, you have to have the spirit to want to be taught. That teachable spirit, he’s asking the Lord for something here. It’s pretty amazing. I want to have a teachable spirit. I want my children to be able to have that teachable spirit where they will want to learn.

Nancy: There, in 1 Kings 3:9: Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge thy people, that I may discern between good and bad: for who is able to judge this thy so great a people? He asked for an “understanding heart.”

The word is shema in the Hebrew. That word literally means “to hear with attention and obedience, to give undivided attention.” That word is often used, “to hear.” That’s the word that is used. He asked for a hearing heart. Then it goes on, where God says, “Yes, and I will give you a heart to discern.” Discerning also comes out of hearing.

Then there’s another word for hearing. That is in the story of Saul. King Saul, God told him to go out and to wipe out the Amorites, I think it was. He had to get rid of them completely. everything that breathed, and all the animals.

But Saul didn’t obey completely. He kept some of the animals. His excuse was that “I kept them to sacrifice to the Lord.” But he had disobeyed what God said. And the prophet comes to him and says: Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.”

The word “hearken” is kashab. What does it mean? “To prick up the ears, sharpening them like an alert animal.” If you have a watchdog in your home, you will know how that when, maybe a car is coming in the gate, you may not even have heard it. But you dog has heard it, and his ears go up. They just prick up, and he’s listening. That’s the way God wants us to listen! With pricking up our ears to listen.

One of the very first things that God wants us to learn, we forgot to tell you this in the last podcast, is something that I’ll give to you here. I’ll read it to you. Deuteronomy 4:10: I will make them hear my words, that they may learn,” what? What does God want us to learn foremost, before anything else? To fear the Lord all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children.”

Deuteronomy 6:1-2: Now these are the commandments . . . that ye might do them . . . That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all His statutes and His commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life.”

Deuteronomy 31:11-13: “Thou shalt read this law before all Israel in their hearing. Get that? “Gather the people together, men, and women, and children . . . that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear the LORD your God, and that their children, which have not known anything, may hear, and learn to fear the LORD your God.”

That is the very first thing God wants us to learn, as mothers, and wants our children to learn, to fear Him. And what is the fear of the Lord? Proverbs 1:7: The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom.” Let’s teach our children how to live in the fear of the Lord.

FAMILIES WORSIPPING TOGETHER

Do you notice there, ladies, that God called everyone together. Whenever God wanted to say something to His people, He called them all together. Not just the adults, no. What does it say here? The men, the women, and the children. Every time God wanted to speak to His people, He always did it in the hearing of everyone.

Let me give you a few other Scriptures about that, because I think this is something we have to understand also. In fact, I believe we’ve got to get back to the Word on every little thing, don’t we?

Even when we come and gather together, whenever you gather, whether it’s a Saturday, whether it’s a Sunday, when you gather with the people of God, it seems that the current way we do it is that everybody goes into their different age groups. The little ones to the nursery, then the little bit older in their little group, and then the next ones to their Sunday school class, right up through their ages.

Wow! In fact, in some churches, everybody’s in the worship together. Then it’s time for the Word! And what happens? It’s an exodus! You can’t believe it! Everybody starts to file out of the church! All the Sunday school teachers, and all the children, and they’re all going out. Wow! Only half or even a third of the church are left! It’s unbelievable!

But when we go to the Word of God, we don’t ever, ever find that. There is not one Scripture. I have to confess that’s how we did it. My husband and I have been pastoring all our lives. We started out like that. Sunday school for all the children. Everyone was in for worship. Then out went the children. That’s how we did it.

Until one day we began to see, “Hey, where do we find this in the Bible? We cannot find it in one place.”

Michele: I think what our children are learning is that they’re a distraction. We’re teaching our children that they’re a distraction and people can’t learn. But it’s not just the children leaving, it’s all the adults who teach the children.

Our children are, a lot of times, going to be entertained. We’re called to be set apart. We’re not called to be set aside. But if we’re just going out and entertaining and giving them a bunch of fluff, they’re not receiving the Word, the deep things of God, in the Word of God, we underestimate our children’s ability to learn.

ARE WE DUMBING THEM DOWN OR LIFTING THEM UP

Nancy: We are. What we’re doing is dumbing them down, bringing them down to child level when we are to be bringing them up to maturity. Children may not understand everything that is being said in the main auditorium where the preacher is preaching, but they get it. It goes into their spirit. It’s how it’s meant to be. Let me give you a few other little Scriptures here.

Joshua 8:33-35: “And Joshua read all the words of the law, the blessings and cursings, according to all that is written in the Book of the Law. There was not a word of all that Moses commanded that Joshua read not before all the congregation of Israel.”

Wow! That was not a half-hour sermon. It was not an hour’s sermon. How long would it take for all that? Most probably all Exodus and Leviticus, and goodness me! Help! There was so much! And who had to be there? “With the women, and the little ones.” Yes. Oh, yes, everyone was there. Not just the men, but the women and the little ones.

2 Chronicles 20:4 & 13: And Judah gathered themselves together.” This was a time when the enemy was coming and all of Judah came together to pray, to ask help of the LORD . . .  And all Judah,” all, stood before the LORD, with their little ones, their wives, and their children.

Yes, and did you notice, “their little ones”? “Oh, but the little ones, we can’t have them. We need babysitters for them. Goodness me, we’ve got to get them out in the nursery, or something, because they are such a distraction!” Oh, no, we have to teach them how to be in the congregation of the people. God never, ever allowed the little ones to be separated. They always had to be there.

The Hebrew word for “the little ones” is the Hebrew word taph. It comes from “the tripping gait or short steps of little children.” In other words, those ones that are toddling around. But even them, God wants to have in the midst. Isn’t that amazing?

Go over to Ezra 10:1: Now when Ezra had prayed, and when he had confessed, weeping and casting himself down before the house of God, there assembled unto him out of Israel a very great congregation of men and women and children,” and the word is taph, all the little, wee ones, for the people wept very sore.

Let me give you just one more. Joel 2:15-16. This was where they were calling a solemn assembly of fasting and prayer. “Oh my, we wouldn’t want to have little ones there, would we? No, you’d better get babysitters! This is a time for prayer and fasting!”

And so, the Word says: “Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly. Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders.” But it doesn’t stop there, ladies. Gather the children, and those that suck at the breasts.”

God wanted everyone there, even the little babes, because right down to the littlest, they can learn. The littlest ones may not even understand but they are still hearing. They’re hearing the Word, and it is subconsciously going into them. Amen?

Michele: When my babies were just babies, even when they were in the womb, when I’d read the Word, I’d read it out loud. That was on purpose. The Spirit of the Lord was there. It’s in them, even at the tiniest of age.

Nancy: Oh, yes, yes. That’s when we start, in the womb!

Michele: Absolutely.

Nancy: Well, we’re going to talk about teaching our children, not just to work, but what? To LOVE WORK! How are we going to do this, Michele?

Michele: Oh, my goodness! So many ways! Number one, just like we teach them to love the Lord, and we teach them to love to learn, to teach them to love labor is number one—set the example. How are we facing work? Whether it be in the home, mothering, schooling, volunteer, meals, housework? It could be anything, anything at all.

What is our view on work? Are we doing it unto the Lord? Do we have a joyful heart? What do our children see? Do they see us grumbling and complaining? Do they see us putting things off and not getting work done? They will follow our lead.

Those little ones, my daughter gets so excited to help me make the bed when I have a smile on my face. I say, “I get to make the bed!” When our older ones were younger, we used to call them “get-to’s.” The words “you have to,” instead, “you get to.” You get to do this! It was so funny to see the things that we could get them to get excited about.

Nancy: Yes, yes. It’s true. It does come back to us, doesn’t it? I guess I was blessed to be brought up in a home where my father loved work. Oh, he loved to work! It was his joy to work. Actually, lovely ladies, this work is in us because God put it in us. If we have a resistance to work, we are actually resisting who God made us to be!

In fact, the very first thing that God did, after He had created man, was to put him in the garden to work, to work in the garden. Now, let’s look at that, shall we? Genesis 2:8: And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden.” And there, the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

Now, the word “dress” is abad in the Hebrew. It literally means “to work, to serve, to labor, to toil, to till.” Yes! It’s a word that really means, “OK, you’ve got to get stuck in and toil!”

WORK IS THERAPEUTIC AND CREATIVE

That word comes immediately after God created the man. God gave that instinct to work, right at the very beginning. It is in us because work is a blessing! Work is therapeutic! Work is creative! Work makes the world go round. In fact, as we work, is when we find better ways of doing things, faster ways of doing things.

This is how all the inventions come about, because people that are doing say, “I can find a better way of doing this! I can build a better thing!” It’s always finding a better way of doing it as we are working. Work is a wonderful thing. God gave it to us, and we have to embrace it as part of our lives! Amen?

Michele: Amen! Isn’t it amazing, how the love of learning and the love of labor go hand in hand? They go absolutely hand in hand, because if we take that love for learning and apply it to labor, wow! The things that we can accomplish, and the things that we can explore, and the things that we can invent are just amazing.

Then, if we have that along with Colossians 3:23-24: “And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not to men. Knowing that from the Lord, you will receive the reward of the inheritance, for you serve the Lord Christ.”

Wow! People that work unto the Lord, they’re going to be others-focused. They’re going to put others first. They’re going to do things with excellence. They’re going take initiative. They’re going to work diligently. They’re going to have integrity, and they’re going to work with a joyful attitude. That’s what I want to see in my children.

Nancy: Yes! OK, now Michele, tell me, how have you been able to put that love for work in your children? Have you got any examples about that?

MAKE IT FUN

Michele: Oh, yes! Lots of examples! One, make it fun. With the little ones, just a smile on your face can make a world of difference. But as they grow older, sometimes you’ll see that reluctant attitude. Just remind them of what the Word of God says, number one—but then also, set an example, making it as fun as possible.

We’re building a home right now. We’re in the beginning processes of building a home, so this is a project that my husband and my boys are taking on. I told them two requirements: I don’t want it duct-taped together, and I don’t want it flex-steeled together. So, they are up to their necks of learning and labor right now but they’re going to have a reward at the end. Just being able to have that reward at the end of something they’ve built, our home! And their inheritance, at that. It's pretty amazing.

Sometimes it’s pointing out to our children why we do the things we do. There’s the “how-to’s,” how do we clean the bathroom, how do we do the things? But why? Why is this important? Why do we need to make our bed if we’re just going go to bed again at night? That sort of thing.

If we can teach them the “why’s” behind some of the things we do, it can make a world of difference in teaching those good work ethics and good work habits. There are things they get up and do from a small age and it becomes a habit. It becomes their work ethic. The reward is at the end of it.

Just recently, we’ve had my son who is becoming an adult (so I don’t want to keep him little)! But he’s going to be 20 in just a few short weeks. He’s been home with us, and he’s been making dinner almost every night.

Nancy: Oooh, how dreamy! [laughter] How wonderful!

Michele: It is so dreamy! But you know what, I see the light when we sit down with our meal, and we’re like, “Oh, wow! This is amazing!” Even at 20 years old, his face will light up. Just that encouragement, when our kids are working hard, and they’re doing something great. Don’t forget to encourage them even as they become young adults. That encouragement can go a long, long way.

ENCOURAGEMENT SHOULD ROLL OFF OUR TONGUES

Nancy: Absolutely. I do believe that is so important to be always encouraging our children. You can never encourage your children too much. Encouragement should be rolling off our tongues. I believe that encouragement is the rich soil in which we grow our children to their full destiny.

People do things out of encouragement. The Word of God says in The Living Bible, Proverbs 12:25: “A word of encouragement does wonders!” It does wonders! A lot of it is all about attitude, isn’t it? When we’re working with our children, we need to let them know, “Oh, isn’t it fun to work? It’s so great!” But also, we’ve got to teach them diligence too, and habits. So much is habits.

You mentioned making your bed. I believe that is the habit we should instill in our children right from the time they can make their beds. They learn to do it. They don’t come out of their rooms until their bed is made. That is a very good habit.

In fact, there’s a whole book called Make Your Bed. I forget the author, but you can go to Amazon. It will come up, written by a general. He puts making his bed as one of the foundational successes of his life because it taught him a habit. “I’ve done something. It is completely finished and orderly, right from the beginning of the day. That’s going to set my pattern for the day.”

In teaching our children to work, one, we are teaching them how to work diligently and delightfully, and, of course, encouraging them along the way. But it’s amazing, ladies, how much God talks about work in His Word, and how much He talks about diligence, and how much He speaks against laziness. Oh, my! There are so many Scriptures about that.

Michele: In 2 Thessalonians 3:10, it says: “If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.” With four boys that love to eat, that’s a big deal. That’s high stakes right there! [laughter]

Nancy: Yes, yes, they also need to learn that too as they’re growing up. We’re teaching our children, right from the beginning, so why are we teaching them to do chores and do work? We’re preparing them for their future life, so that they’ll grow up with this work ethic of enjoying work, loving work.

I see my children loving work. One of my boys especially, he just loves to work! He is incredible. In fact, it’s our son Steve, and he has always, I guess for years now, I think for over 33 years or more he has managed the Newsboys. That’s the Christian band that our oldest son owns. Steve has managed them on the road. His incredible work ethic, his incredible management has actually done wonders for that band and made them what they are today.

In fact, this last summer tour, he was brought in by Maverick City, which I think is perhaps the most popular worship band today. But they brought in Steve to manage them. They were unbelievably blessed. In fact, I saw a post from my daughter-in-law, and they’d given him this thing that says, “The Best Manager That’s Ever Been.” [laughter] It was something like that. It was even better than that. Yes, because of his incredible work ethic, and also his amazing creativity and personality too, but it all starts with work.

Anyway, I think we’re actually at the end of this session. We’ve got to talk a little bit more about this next session. So, we’ll be coming back for that, ladies! Love you!

“Dear Father, I thank You for all the precious women, mothers, wives, daughters, maybe even husbands, listening, Lord. Father, bless them with Your Word. Encourage them.

“Lord God, teach us all Your ways. One of Your ways is to work. Even Jesus said, “My Father works, and I work.” It is part of the Godhead, to work.

“So, Father, give us wisdom in teaching our children the right way, the right attitude, to work. It makes such a difference to the whole atmosphere of the home. I pray this blessing upon every home today. In Jesus’ Name, Amen.

Michele: Amen.

Blessings from Nancy Campbell

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