PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 422: THE FLOURISHING MOTHER, PT 4
LIFE TO THE FULL w/ Nancy Campbell
EPISODE 422: THE FLOURISHING MOTHER, PT 4
The flourishing mother has been converted to motherhood! The flourishing mother has purpose and vision!
Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to the Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies, a magazine bringing strength and encouragement to families across the world.
Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies. Always so great to be with you! We are continuing our series “The Flourishing Mother.” Before I continue, I must share a little quote that I read the last few days. I’m reading a book at the moment. It’s about people who have been converted and come to Jesus. It’s stories of their conversions. It’s a wonderful book. In fact, every one was a Jew who has come to Christ. Some of these conversions were quite amazing and miraculous and wonderful.
But there’s one here by a woman who now is a mother of nine children. She says here, just in the midst of her story of how she came to Christ, she says, “After so many years of university studies and diplomas, I discovered the most interesting and fascinating vocation of womankind in motherhood. This was true liberation from the futile strivings of the world.”
I loved that little quote from her. As I read it, I thought, “Wow!” OK, this book is about people who have been converted and come to Christ. I thought, “Sometimes it’s a little bit like that with motherhood. We have to have a conversion to come to motherhood. Just as we have a conversion to come to Christ, we have to have a conversion to come to motherhood.”
Because, living in this society, we have so much deception about motherhood. We’re brainwashed by society, and by being to university, you will have been brainwashed there against motherhood. And what is a conversion? Well, really, conversion is just a turning. It’s a turning back. It’s turning back to Christ. We were born to know Him, but, of course, this world lures us away. When we come to Christ, we’re turning back to Him.
Now, the word in the Greek, when we read it in the New Testament, yes, Acts 3:19. Peter is preaching here, and he says: “Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out.” The word in the Greek is epistrepho. It just means “to turn, to return, to return to love and obedience to God, to return to wisdom and righteousness.”
It even has here, explaining the Greek; it even says, “to turn to love for children.” Isn’t that amazing? And we see other Scriptures in Acts where it says: “A great number believed and turned unto the Lord.” That’s the same word that’s used for “converted.” That they should repent and turn to God, the same word.
In 1 Thessalonians 1:9, it says: “You turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God.”
1 Peter 2:25: “For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.” Now one commentator of this Scripture was saying that in the Aramaic (that’s the language Peter spoke back then) in the Aramaic the word was schlama. That’s very close to the word shalom in the Hebrew, which means “peace, good will.” It’s so similar in the Aramaic, schlama. It also means “peace, give goodwill to people.”
And also, it means “to submit, submit to God.” Really, that’s what conversion is. It’s a submitting to God. So that, “OK, I’m no longer going my own way. I’m submitting to God’s way.” This is Jesus praying. He said: “Not My Will, but Thine be done.” And how did Jesus do this? Did He do it out of, oh, my duty, my obligation?
No, the Bible says, in Psalm 40, and over in Hebrews, I think it’s chapter 9. It says: “In the volume of the Book, it is written of Me. I delight to do Thy will, oh my God.” Jesus came, delighting to do the will of His Father, delighting to submit to Him. And so, that’s what happens when we’re converted.
But I think for some, we have to have this same experience in converting to motherhood and turning back to motherhood, in submitting to the Father’s will. This is the will of God. When God gives a child and succeeding children to a mother, this is His perfect will for her. You, my lovely mothers who are listening, you are in the very perfect will of God as you embrace your motherhood, and you submit to the Father’s will.
IT’S NOT ENOUGH TO LOVE YOUR CHILDREN, YOU MUST LOVE MOTHERHOOD!
I’m sure you've been converted, but if you haven’t, if you're still struggling with motherhood, of course you all love motherhood. I mean, every mother loves her children. Of course she does. Every mother loves her children but not all mothers love motherhood. They are often struggling against motherhood by thinking, “Oh my, I should be out there, fulfilling my career. There’s so much there I want to do and I’m stuck here with these children!”
So, although you're loving your children, you're not loving motherhood. This is really the crux of the whole matter for its only when we come to embrace motherhood, and to love motherhood because we’re submitting to the Father’s will, we’re delighting to do His will, and we embrace it with all our hearts. That’s when we begin to really enjoy it. And that’s when we’re converted. We’ve had a conversion to embrace motherhood.
HAVE YOU BEEN CONVERTED TO MOTHERHOOD?
Have you had that conversion, my lovely mothers? If you haven’t, well, just have a little chat with the Lord. I remember when I had to do that, way, way back, years ago, when I was struggling. I had three children in 17 months because I had twins. I was struggling. I had been with my husband in full-time work for the Lord. Now suddenly, he was still going out, doing great things for God.
And where was I? Stuck at home, with three little screaming babies! Help! I wondered what had happened to my life. Was I no longer in the will of God? God had to gently show me, by His Spirit, that, yes, I was in His perfect will. I had to come to the realization that up to that time, even though I’d been brought up in a Christian home, I had never really truly understood the truth.
I HAD A CONVERSION TO MOTHERHOOD
I never even embraced who I was. I never embraced my womanhood, my femininity, my motherhood especially. And by the Holy Spirit working in my heart, He brought me to that place to see, yes, I was in His perfect will. This is what He had created me for. He’d even created me physically for this very task, to bring forth His children into the world. And I was in His will.
For the very first time in my life, I embraced who God created me to be. That He had chosen to make me a woman, and to fulfill His divine purposes in me as a woman. And I embraced motherhood. I said, “Yes, Lord, I embrace it. This is who I am. I thank You.” This was when I began to live in the true joy and fulfillment of motherhood. I had a conversion into motherhood. So, I trust that you have too. If you haven’t, well, just make it happen, because it makes all the difference.
It’s the same when we’re converted to the Lord. Until that moment, we don’t really understand or know Who He is. The Bible says: “Oh, taste and see that the Lord is good.” It’s only when we come to Him, and give Him our lives, and embrace His life, that we taste the goodness of the Lord.
It’s the same in motherhood. When we struggle with it, and we sort of reject it . . . yes, we just do our duty but we’re not embracing it. We don’t live in the joy of it. We’ve got to have that conversion. We’ve got to come to that place of saying, “Yes, I submit to You, my God. This is Your will for me.” And as we do that, then we find joy, fulfillment, glory, because God brings us into His glory. Amen?
Well, I have written here, and I want to read it to you—a prayer for you to pray:
“Dear mother, ask God to open your eyes to seek the way. Acknowledge who you are. Acknowledge to God, and to yourself that He created you a woman, to be a nurturer, a nourisher, a nest builder.”
God wants you to be in the home as an anchor. He wants you to be in the home as a light, gathering your family around you, and drawing others in from the darkness of this world.
Motherhood is a divine calling. It is not insignificant. Dear mother, you will accomplish far greater feats for God by embracing motherhood rather than vacating your home. You are nurturing life. You are raising arrows for God’s end time army. Through your children, you will influence thousands of lives. You’ll influence the nation, and maybe other nations of the world.
And most of all, you are not only preparing children to impact this world, but eternity. Motherhood is an eternal career. You are preparing eternal souls for the eternal realm. This is the greatest purpose of motherhood. It is eternity. It’s preparing, really, your own life for eternity, and preparing your children for eternity. Amen?
And it’s only when you totally embrace and love the career of motherhood that you will enter into this flourishing anointing that we are talking about in this series. As it says in Psalm 128:3, you will be like a flourishing vine. You will flourish in your home. Yes, what is the Scripture?
“Flourishing within your home.”
When you realize that this is your destiny, that this is what you are created for, then you will begin to mother with abandonment and joy. You will no longer have to feel pressured by the pull of society as it lures you into its mold. You no longer have to feel guilty when you do not get involved in every church function, in every this, and every that. You’ve found your place! You know where you're meant to be—in your home. You know who you are. You have embraced it completely. You’re converted! Now you can enjoy mothering, and your home. Amen.
Well, let’s go on to point . . .
No. 5. THE FLOURISHING MOTHER HAS PURPOSE AND VISION’
I know you've all read Proverbs 29:18: “Where there is no vision, the people perish.” Do you know what this word “perish” really means? The Hebrew tells us. It means “to let go, neglect, make naked or bare, to let something slip through your fingers by ignoring an opportunity.”
Wow, that’s an amazing understanding of having a vision, isn’t it? That’s very true for motherhood. When we do not have a vision for motherhood, we can let this powerful career slip through our fingers because we are so taken up with other things, and so involved with other things, or even in a career. And we’re letting the power and anointing of motherhood slip through our fingers.
Dear mother, if I could only remind you today that motherhood goes so quickly. You may think, “Oh my! This is forever! Here I am, stuck with all these little children.” And middling children. Maybe bigger ones now. But dear precious mother, these days go so quickly! You don’t realize it now when you're in the midst of it, but I look back, and I look back to the day when even my firstborn arrived. And I still remember those moments.
Oh, the wonder of this precious baby coming into the world and being flooded with love that I had never known before, a love that is so . . . you’ve never experienced anything like it before as you all know as mothers. It’s just as real to today. My eldest son is now 62 years of age, most probably older than most of you who are listening. And yet, those moments fled.
The time I had to raise him was just so small compared to his whole life. How many years did I have him? Oh my, he was married at about 21 years or so. Just think, if now he’s in his 60’s. Wow! I didn’t have very long to impact his life and impart into his life, compared to the years that he’s lived and will yet live! Oh, dear mothers, we’ve got to make the most of every moment we have of motherhood. Please don’t let it slip through your fingers. Get a vision for motherhood.
Yes, watch out for that enemy, the enemy of our souls, the devil, who comes to steal, kill, and destroy (John 10:10). He will do that. He’ll try to do that even in your mothering. He’ll try to deprive you of your highest destiny, because motherhood is your highest destiny. Of course, you will do other things, and especially as your little darlings grow and get bigger. And they get bigger until they grow and they leave your home. Wow! Those days have gone, and you go into a different season. You have time to do other things.
MOTHERHOOD IS TOO POWERFUL TO TAKE LIGHTLY
But, oh, don’t let the enemy rob you of that time when you have them with you. Motherhood is too powerful to take lightly. So, you need this vision, dear mothers. You need this vision and purpose to take you through the days when, OK, things seem overpowering, and it all seems too much. Or you've just been tempted with other things. You need the vision.
I had a vision when I was raising our children, and I took it from the Scriptures. I took this Scripture, 1 Thessalonians 5:23, where it says: “May the God of peace Himself make you holy, through and through. May your whole being, spirit, soul, and body, be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.” This was my longing, and my goal, my purpose that when I stand before God one day, as we will all stand before the judgement seat of Christ, and I present my children before Him, because that’s what (of everything else God has given me to do), that’s the highest calling He gave me to do, the children that He gave to me.
As I present them before Him, can I present them before Him absolutely whole (w h o l e), and also hopefully holy (h o l y)? God wants us to present them to Him whole (w h o l e)—spirit, soul, and body. Did you notice the order? Spirit, soul, and body? Yes, we spend so many hours looking after their bodies, feeding our children, and yes, that’s a very powerful part of motherhood. I don’t even make it negative, it’s so powerful.
But we spend so much time feeding their bodies, clothing their bodies, looking after their bodies, doing everything for their bodies. How much time do we spend ministering into and feeding their spirits and their souls? That’s how we’re preparing them for the eternal realm. That’s how we’re preparing to make them whole.
They are not weak. They are not missing out in areas of their spirit and soul. They’re not coming starved and weakened, and so tiny in their spirit and soul. But no, we’ve fed their spirit with the Word of God and His truth. We’ve gathered our children every morning and every evening, around the Word of God, in His Presence. We’ve ministered the Word into their spirits. We don’t leave the table until we’ve fed the whole man—body, soul, spirit.
We don’t just cook a meal for their bodies. We think of how we’re going to feed their souls at the table. And then we think mostly of how we’ll feed their spirits, how we’ll minister food into their spirits, so they leave the table totally fed, spirit, soul, and body, and “holy through and through.” Oh my, that is a huge purpose. We may not completely make it. Wow! But if we have the goal, we’ll be working towards this.
Oh, that takes so much watching and praying. Watching over our children, watching with our beady eyes, watching over everything they’re looking at—reading, seeing, watching. We have a greater responsibility today than I think mothers of any generation, because we are now having to fight. We’re fighting against social media. We’re fighting against all the junk and the evil that’s on these iPhones, and oh, that’s available all around our children, and in our society. We’re fighting against it. We have to fight in prayer. Oh my, we’ve got to fight by watching.
We can’t just leave the home. Oh, often mothers think, “Yes, my children now, they’re at school, and they’re older. I’ve got time to go out to work.” No, the older your children get, the more you need to be there, watching over what is happening, watching over what they’re doing, watching over what they’re seeing, because if you're not there, dear mother, the enemy’s going to get in.
THE DEVIL REJOICES WHEN MOTHERS LEAVE THE HOME
Oh, he’s just waiting! Oh, he loves it when mothers vacate the home. The devil’s rejoicing when mothers vacate the home, because this is where he can creep in because there’s not a beady-eyed, praying, watchdogging mother watching over her children. If he can get rid of her, well, then he can creep in. He can creep into their minds, creep into them doing things we would not allow in our home because we are responsible to watch over our homes, to keep them holy.
In fact, we go to Ezekiel. It talks there about the temple, which is the house of God. And it was not only the temple that was to be holy, but all the land roundabout it. We are responsible, not only for our home, but all the land around our home. It may be just a tiny little bit. Maybe you're just in a little apartment. But maybe you have many acres, or many, many acres.
Whatever you have, you're to watch over it all. Whatever goes on, you're watching, and you're guarding. Yes, guarding. That’s what that Scripture says, so that we can present our children, blameless, whole (w h o l e) at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
The word in the Greek is tereo. It means “to attend, to carefully watch, to guard from loss or injury by keeping the eye upon.” Yes. It’s actually the word that is used when Jesus said: “Keep My commandments.” When the Scriptures say: “Keep thyself pure.” It’s watching and guarding to do that.
So, dear lovely mothers, become a watchdog mother, a guarding mother. That’s what it tells us in Titus 2 where it tells the older women to teach the younger women. One of the things we should teach them is to be keepers at home. Yes, that’s the phrase: “keepers at home.” We’re keeping the home, guarding the home.
You may have a different translation of the Bible. A number of different translations translate it differently, because translations can be translated from two different earlier manuscripts. From one earlier manuscript they get the translation “workers at home.” So maybe that’s your translation. I like that one. I’m a great believer in working mothers, but where do they work?
I don’t believe mothers are to work out in a career, outside the home. I believe we’re meant to be in the home, and working in the home, because if we’re really managing our home, well, it does take work. And especially if you are looking after not only the home, but outside the home. You’ve got a garden as well and that takes time and work too.
You may even, as the children are getting older, you may be starting a business in your home. Maybe an online business. You can do that in the home. Don’t do it when you've got all your little darlings around you. But as your children grow, you can get into that. Your older children can begin to help you with it too and become part of it. But you're in the home. You are there, guarding, and watching over your home.
Another manuscript brings out to be guardians of the home. That’s more of what the King James is bringing out. Keepers, like the keeper of a castle, one who holds the keys of the castle. You won’t let anyone get in unless they have permission. We will not let anything into our home unless we have the permission of our God. Amen?
YOU ARE DANGEROUS TO THE DEVIL
Because we are building a godly home, a holy home. We can only do that as we are in the home, because if we’re not there, things will get into the home while we’re not there. Oh yes, the enemy is so subtle, so watch out for him. Don’t let him get in. When you are there in the home, and your heart is in your home, your mind is in the home, your vision is in the home, my, you are a scary person to the devil. You are dangerous to the devil, because he has no power over your home or your children. Amen!
I was reading, many years ago, that Scripture in Zephaniah 1:1. Here it is, just one of generational Scriptures that you usually just gloss over. I tend to gloss over them. But I was reading this that day: “The Word of the LORD which came unto Zephaniah the son of Cushi, the son of Gedaliah, the son of Amariah, the son of Hizkiah (Hezekiah).
Well, what on earth do you get out of that? I got a revelation! I realized, here was Zephaniah, the prophet to the nation. And he was the great-grandson of Hezikiah, one of the good kings of Israel, who cleaved to the Lord with all his heart. And now, his great-grandson is a prophet to the nation.
As I pray for our children, I also pray for the coming generation. Do you do that? Because we, as mothers, we can influence not only our children, but coming generations. How I long that every one of my children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren and the generations to come will continue serving the Lord with all their hearts and will never turn aside to follow anything that is vain. Dear mothers, let’s be praying mothers, for our children, and for the coming generation.
My husband talks of his, what would it be . . . great-great-grandmother, I think. It was his father’s grandmother. She was an intercessor. He did not really know her, but she was living in the home when he was a child. They were looking after her. His mother told my husband that she would be sitting in the corner of the lounge, in her rocking chair, and she would be praying.
She would be praying out loud, but not out loud to disturb people but just out loud, quietly, in her rocking chair. She’d be praying for people she knew, the needs of people. Sometimes people might even hear their names and be so blessed that they were being prayed for.
Colin’s mother said that there was one particular prayer that she that she always came back to. She prayed for the coming generations. Now, those generations are still serving the Lord. When we think of, OK, that was, my, how do we work that out? How many generations is that?
So, let’s come down from that praying, interceding grandmother. We take that generation, and then she had her son, next generation. Then Colin’s father, third generation. Colin himself, fourth generation. Our children, fifth generation. Their children, sixth, and now we have great-grandchildren, seven generations!
Now my husband didn’t really know her, but he was in the home with her. He was alive, so in his lifetime, there are seven generations being affected by this interceding mother’s prayers. Isn’t that powerful? Wow! Wow, oh wow. And our children are walking with the Lord. Our grandchildren are walking with the Lord.
I think of the children of my husband’s siblings. Nine children in their family and all their children are serving the Lord also. And so, this is a glorious thing, but it doesn’t happen on its own. There were prayers to make it happen that have come down the generations.
I think of my own family. On my father’s side, I remember my grandparents. My grandfather was a wild man in his early days, but he had a miraculous, amazing conversion, even as Colin’s father had an amazing conversion. One day, I’ll have to tell you about it. But anyway, he came to the Lord, so that’s number one generation. Then he raised my father. He raised five sons for the Lord. There were two others. One died at birth, and one was killed with a logging accident.
But there were five alive he raised for God. So that was the third generation. Our children fourth. Their children fifth, and now our great-grandchildren sixth. We’ve got six generations there. Wow! Isn’t it amazing how we can build godly generations?
As I close, I’m thinking of just a few weeks ago we married a lovely couple in our home. We married them on our deck. It was just so beautiful.
Dear mothers, you have the power and the responsibility to raise godly generations. What great vision and purpose! We couldn’t have any greater vision and purpose in the whole world, than to raise a godly home, and raise godly sons and daughters who impact this world, and for eternity. There is no greater vision. With that vision, dear mothers, you can be a flourishing mother in your home. Amen?
“Dear Father, we just thank You for the power of motherhood that You have entrusted to us. You’ve entrusted to us Your children, Lord God, and as You hear, You call them Your children. You say, ‘My children, whom I have borne unto Me,’ Lord God.
“When we have a little child, we have borne that child, not only unto ourselves, but we have birthed that child unto You, Lord God. Help us to realize every single baby we bring into this world we birth unto You, for Your purposes, for the destiny that You have planned for that child.
“Help us, Lord God, as mothers. Anoint us. Lord, I pray for Your mighty anointing upon every mother listening, that You will anoint her for this great task. Anoint her, Lord God. Fill her with divine purpose. Oh God, anoint her to be a praying and guarding mother. Lord God, that she will raise godly children for this world, for this nation, for the nation in which she lives, and, Lord, for eternity. That she will stand before You, Lord God, with her children absolutely whole, spirit, soul, and body. We ask this in the precious Name of Jesus. Amen.”
Blessings from Nancy Campbell * www.aboverubies.org
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