PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 335: Don’t Leave Your Husband Behind
LIFE TO THE FULL w/ Nancy Campbell
EPISODE 3
35: Don’t Leave Your Husband Behind
Allison Hartman is with me again today. We discuss what happens to your marriage when the children grow, and the older ones begin to leave the nest. Are you and your husband ready for this new season? Have you kept the love fires burning in your marriage or do they need to be rekindled?
Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to The Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.
Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies! I have Allison Hartman with me again. We do love doing podcasts together.
By the way, for those of you who are listening in America, have you received your magazine yet? I hope many of you have. This is number 102. I know it’s going to be such a blessing to you. If you haven’t got it yet, it will be coming, so be looking out for it.
Also, for those who are new to Above Rubies, recently someone landed at my home a box of old copies of Above Rubies. I’m always so excited when this happens because old copies of Above Rubies are like gold! They eventually just disappear. I keep one copy of every one, but there comes a time when there’s only one copy left, and I have to keep that.
So, if you are wanting any back copies, you are welcome to email me, This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and tell us what you already have. Then we may be able to find some you haven’t got and send them to you. I’m so happy for you to have them and be blessed. If you send a donation for them, that would be so great, but if you can’t afford it, I will still send them to you. I’ve always made Above Rubies available freely. Oh, I just want to freely give it to you.
Of course, it’s not actually free because I have to pay for it. I have to pay. I have been saying it costs about $80,000 to print and send out each issue. But sadly, I’m realizing that this time prices have gone up. It’s going to come to well over $100,000. I still have to get money in to pay for the sending out of the rest of the magazines and for the printing. So, donations are always so welcome because that’s the only way we pay for it.
Anyway, Allison is with me. We’d better remind them what’s coming up for the retreats for next year. Do you want to tell them about those?
Allison: Yes! We’ve been putting on the Gulf Coast Above Rubies Family Camp for I don’t even know how many years. I’m so bad at that, but it’s a long time! The retreats keep growing and growing. Everybody knows about our big retreat in April which this coming year 2025, it will be April 16th through the 23rd at Panama City Beach, Florida.
Nancy: Doesn’t it come at Easter time?
Allison: Yes! This year, for the first time, it’s going to land during Easter.
Nancy: So, you can have a whole Easter holiday!
Allison: But then, because our retreats have grown so much, and the building that we need only holds 700 hundred people, we have had to open up a . . .
Nancy: But we squashed in more! [laughter]
Allison: We did! But we’ve had to open up a second main retreat. We do that now in January. It’s called our Winter Retreat. This year it is January 3rd through the 10th 2025. We’re currently at 19 families that have already registered, which seems really small, because our main retreat holds about 110 families. But we actually really like the fact that it’s a smaller retreat. You really get to know people. So, if you're scared of that big crowd in April, January is the perfect time to come. Not to mention that it’s cheaper because you're during winter break.
But I’m telling you, one of the neatest parts of our retreat is that it’s not just a one-time thing. Our retreat has become a constant community. It is the source of my children’s friends. It has been the place where I share life experiences, the ups and the downs, and the daily life. Anything that goes on in our lives, I immediately post it to our Above Rubies Signal group.
It is not something that just goes away when the retreat’s over. If you're sitting there going, “Gosh, I wish I had a great community for my children, a great peer group,” well, you need to come and be a part of this retreat, because your children are going to meet friends, and they’re going to continue those relationships.
The next retreat to be a part of is the January retreat. We’d love you to come. The website for it is https://aboverubiesgulfcoast.com/ You can see the link to register. We’d love to have you be a part of that in Panama City.
Nancy: And don’t you have a couple’s week coming up?
Allison: We do! We do. It actually is what we’re going to talk about this podcast. We have decided to do a couple’s retreat. It’s our first ever couple’s retreat. Adults only. Right now, I think we’re at 22 couples. It’s going to be June of 2025. We’re going to an all-inclusive resort in Mexico.
We’re so excited about it. Right now, the couples who are coming are all married couples. Most of us are in that same stage of life, been married for 20-40 years, I guess. If you're interested in that, you can reach out to me. You can find me on Facebook, Allison Frost Hartman, or go to the Above Rubies Gulf Coast page, and you can email us. I’ll send you all the information about the 2025 Cancun Couple’s Trip. It’s going to be so exciting!
Nancy: Wonderful! We were talking in our last podcast about how important it is to have the right friends for your children. These family retreats are the most glorious place to find friends for your children. The friendships that are being made among the young people are so beautiful, aren’t they?
Allison: We just had our third daughter’s wedding. We have two girls who are married to Serene’s two sons which is so fun. But I just thought about their wedding parties. They consisted of siblings and/or friends they’d met through the Above Rubies retreats. That’s all they have for friends.
My boys are 18, 16, and 15. Their friend group is 100% Above Rubies families’ children, from all over. They get together all the time! They’re leaving tomorrow to go to Alabama to hang out with some families that they met through Above Rubies, to go have a bonfire, worship night, spike ball tournament, and volleyball tournament. Just about every month, they get together with some of these families.
Nancy: Just so wonderful! I have to reiterate again this Scripture. It was just so powerful, as I encouraged my children as they were going through their teen years. Proverbs 13:20: “He that walks with wise men shall be wise, but a companion of fools shall be destroyed.” So, we hope you can make it to one of these retreats. That would be so wonderful! By the way, can we share the exciting news?
Allison: I say we do it! I say we do it!
Nancy: Oh, yes! Now Allison has two more grandbabies on the way!
Allison: Two more!
Nancy: Because Halle and Cedar are expecting their second baby. And Vision and Eden are now expecting their first baby! And they will be my great-grandbabies!
Allison: Yes! Serene and I are going to share three grandbabies, two one month apart. And yes, we’ll have three great-grandbabies with you guys. That’s so fun!
Nancy: And another amazing thing! Serene is so blessed at this moment, because she has three sons whose wives are pregnant. Her three oldest sons, Arden, Cedar, and Vision are all expecting babies, all close to one another. So amazing!
And, of course, Arden and Esther, if you've read about them in the magazine, and I have done a podcast with Arden and Esther as he shares that incredible seven years they went through as he was fighting cancer. Because he did stem cell replacement at the end, they said that he would never be able to conceive. But God has done the miracle and they’re having this precious baby!
Allison: So exciting!
Nancy: Three more babies coming into their family, two more coming into yours. Isn’t it exciting? Oh, it’s so wonderful!
Allison: We’re excited. Sisters married brothers, so we’ll have babies one month apart. Pretty cool! Praise God!
Nancy: I can’t imagine, well I can. But Eden and Halle having babies together! Aren’t they gorgeous!
Anyway, talking about your children growing up and getting married and now you're a grandmother, what’s so different in your life now?
Allison: Well, again, if you don’t know my story, we have 11 children. They range from 25 down to four. I’m kind of in a very unusual state because I’m 49. I’ll be 50 in one month, in December.
Nancy: Woooo!
Allison: My body changed. It is definitely changing. I always thought, gosh, when I thought about not being able to have children it’s going to be so sad! And it is. It is sad. I look at nursing moms. But yet, I don’t look at it in a sad way, like I’m depressed, because my youngest is four, and my oldest grandbaby is two. I’ve not missed that two-year gap. We literally went from having our two-year-old to having a grandbaby.
Now, it’s just amazing. I was telling you that I just recently made a post on Facebook about my husband and I going on a plane and I’d just got back from Fort Myers, having polarity therapy done to my neck and my back. On the plane, the guy announced, “All the mothers of littles, and nursing babies, board the plane!” I looked around, and I just assumed that was me! But then I thought, “It’s not me! I have no littles! I’m with my husband only.”
But for 25 years, that was me. We always got on the plane first because we always had littles. I’d been nursing for 25 years, with no breaks. I’ve tandem-nursed nine times, so nine babies I’ve tandem-nursed. I think my first three were the only ones I didn’t tandem-nurse. In fact, my four-year-old, I’m still nursing, which is ridiculous when I think about it, because she’s so big. But that’s part of me just kind of holding onto that last bit.
I think us mothers in this stage of this transition from nursing mothers to now this new stage, I just want to encourage you that it doesn’t have to be a negative. In fact, it can be quite positive, because the reason I was able to . . . When I got on that plane, I didn’t have to fight with little ones to keep them happy on the plane. I got to hold my husband’s hand and snuggled on his shoulder. I got to do nothing but hang out with him. What a neat experience that I haven’t experienced in 25 years!
That’s why we’re doing this couples’ trip, because we’re recognizing that now is the first season in my life that I can completely say, “I am focused on my marriage one hundred percent.” I was telling you earlier that I’ve read that one of the fastest-growing ages of divorce in our world is age 50, which is right where I’m at.
It’s because most people, now I’m not in that category, but most people, their children are graduating from high school. When they turn 50, their children are typically going off to college. Their job is done, right? So, they look at their spouse, and they think, “I don’t even know you. I’m divorcing you, because in the last 18, 20 years of our marriage, all we’ve done is parent. We haven’t really worked on our marriage.”
Nancy: You think that you’d do that together!
Allison: Yeah, but that’s what you and Granddad have done, and that’s what me and Daniel have done. But most married couples at that age, a lot of them are getting divorced because they just haven’t focused.
My encouragement is, No.1, if you're listening, and you're that mom of littles, boarding that plane, and you're exhausted, and you're tired, and you're like, “My whole life is about changing diapers and making food!” . . . don’t forget your marriage, because you don’t want to be at that stage at 50, going, “Huh. I don’t even know you. All I’ve done is co-parent with you.”
That’s No. 1. As moms of littles, remember you were married first. Your marriage is what’s so important. It’s interesting, our daughter who we just said is having a baby, when she announced her pregnancy, she said, “I’m having a baby!” And I immediately said, “Oh gosh! When are you due?” She’s like, “I’m due in June.” I was like, “Oh, Eden, that’s when we’re going to Mexico! What if I miss the birth? This is terrible! I’m going to have to cancel the trip!”
When I told Daniel, my husband, “I don’t know what to do! I can’t miss her birth!” He said, “Oh, we’re going to Mexico! We’ll have lots of grandbabies, Allison! We’re going to Mexico because our marriage is what our priority is.” I was like, “OK! I guess you're right!” Yes, I want to be at my daughter’s birth but more than anything, when our children get married, they don’t look back and think, “Oh, but my mom and dad are going to miss me!” No! They’re moving on! Their husband is their most important priority.
Nancy: That’s right.
Allison: But yet, us mothers, now our daughters are married, what are we doing? Are we prioritizing being grandparents and being the mothers-in-law? No, we need to be prioritizing that my role right now is being married to Daniel Hartman. It’s got to be the No. 1.
Anyway, that’s where I’m at, and I thought, “What an important message to send to other moms who are in my shoes!” You’re going through that stage where you're not getting pregnant. It doesn’t look like you're probably going to have any other children. Gosh, if I got pregnant, it would be amazing! But for the first time in my life, I’m not thinking about that. I’m not constantly wondering, “Am I going to get pregnant?” I’m thinking, “Wow! I have all this time now to focus on our marriage.”
Nancy: OK! What are you doing? What are some of the things that you are doing that you haven’t felt that you've been able to do before?
Allison: I think one of the biggest things is, well, two things. Bringing back the point of peers, I’m a firm believer that having good peers for our children is very important. But I am even more convinced, more than ever, that having good peers as married couples is so important.
Nancy: It doesn’t actually matter what age you are. Your peers are always important.
Allison: Absolutely! I notice that when I’m around other women like you, or like Serene, or like other moms, their speech is all positive. Their talk about their husbands is positive. You tend to gravitate and talk about what the ones that you're around talk about. You don’t want to watch for things that are not good for you when you're around people that would never want to watch that.
However, when you're hanging around peers . . . Like our last podcast, we talked about going to concerts that other worldly people are going to, your bar is lowered. So, that’s No. 1. Daniel and I, we purposefully and intentionally choose to be around couples . . . we have wonderful friends in Pensacola, the Dolls, Christy and Doug Doll. We go on dates with them, probably weekly. We’d probably go more if we weren’t as busy as we are. We both own our own businesses.
But every time we’re with them, I said this to them the other day. I thought, “Isn’t it interesting, that every time we go on a date with you, our conversation always shifts to things of God?” Always! We’re always talking about Scriptures. We’re always talking about what God’s doing in our lives. Always, our conversation is about the things of the Lord. I haven’t had a couple of friends like that in most of our marriage. Most of our couple are good. Our conversations are good, but they’re neutral. They’re not bad or good. Does that make sense?
Nancy: Yes.
Allison: They don’t challenge us to be better wives and husbands. They’re not the ones that I would go to and cry on their shoulder when our marriage is struggling, or our children have done something that we’re not happy with. What do we do? What couples are in your life who are going to challenge you to be better? Same with our children. We want them to hang around with good friends.
But then I think the other thing is that we do is prioritize going on dates. We’re constantly thinking of our next date. Not just nightly dates, but we even go on weekend dates, or weeklong dates. We just went to Fort Myers to have this polarity therapy done. Yeah, it doesn’t sound like fun.
I got 80 shots in my neck, because I have this bad neck that is caused by bad posture which is really interesting. I realized that my neck is aligned wrongly because of bad posture. It’s caused by our photography business, so I’m constantly straining my neck towards the computer screen, staring. I have literally shifted my neck, my C-1 and C-2, out of alignment.
That’s what’s causing my neck pain, which in today’s world (I think about every teenager you know, their heads are down, looking at their cell phones). It’s so bad for your posture. But that’s another whole podcast!
We went and had this done and someone said to me, “How neat! You and your husband did do this together!” It was neat! It was fun. We made it fun. We went to Fort Myers and rented a car. We couldn’t find a single car in the town, so we had to go to the private rental car called Touro, where you rent someone’s car. We rented a Tesla. It was fun. We went to this restaurant.
Anything you do with your husband make it a fun experience. Enjoy, savor those moments, because you haven’t been able to do that while you've been raising your children. You haven’t been able to go sit in a restaurant.
I’m around my granddaughters right now. They’re in that two-year-old, one-year-old and all they do is cry and scream in the car. I’m forgetting that that was my life a few years ago! So, as I’m with my husband, and there’s no one screaming in the car, I need to appreciate that! “Thank You, God, for no screaming in the van! No screaming in the car! We can just get in and we go.” I’m preaching to myself because I really want to savor these moments.
Nancy: Oh, yes! That is so wonderful. When you're raising your children, a lot of people say, “Well, try to get out on date nights.” But it never really worked for us. I don’t know. We just found it so difficult to get away when we were raising the children because you don’t trust everyone to look after them.
Allison: But you can have a date sitting in your front yard! In a car. We’d go on Tucker Carlson dates. We’d just go sit in our car and listen to Tucker Carlson [laughter], and then talk about it! Anything you can do. You don’t have to spend money.
Nancy: No. That’s so right.
Allison: You can just go and sit in your car, and not tell your children that you're parked out front! [laughter] You can watch them but just have that time by yourself.
Nancy: I know. I often think of these women who love to have these, what do they call them? Girls’ nights out?
Allison: Girls’ night out.
Nancy: Girls’ weekends away. You know what? I can’t be bothered with it. I think, to go out and spend time with another lady, when I could spend time with my husband, which is so more exciting. Why would they want to do that?
Allison: And it is so popular right now. I mean, Nancy, you have no idea. That’s what all my age group is doing. They’re all doing runs together, 5K’s together. They’re working out, which is great, but they’re doing it with their girlfriends. I don’t really even have girlfriends. I really don’t, because any time I have free that we’re not working, or spending time as a family, I want to spend with my husband.
Nancy: Exactly!
Allison: But I think our world is catering to that, and encouraging that, because most people are in unhappy marriages. So, they want to go spend time with other people who are in unhappy marriages so that they can talk about their unhappy marriages!
Nancy: Yes! And that’s what they do! It’s all so negative.
Allison: So dangerous.
Nancy: One negative word and then that releases another negative word. Someone only has to say something negative about their husband, and, oh yes, someone else has another negative to say. I have always proved that that if a conversation gets onto a negative, people gravitate to that, so the negatives just become more and more and more. But, if you say a positive, it’s amazing how, yes, that promotes someone to say a positive thing. So, then it becomes more positive.
Allison: Well, it’s almost like peer pressure, right? If your friends are just constantly bad-talking their husbands, you almost feel obligated to also say something negative about your husband. We have a home church, and we’ve got about 13 families. What we found is that we’ve had a lot of young families come to us. What I’ve noticed is if I’m not careful, we can really have that conversation going towards the negative of our husbands. Oh, they overslept. They didn’t want to come to church. They didn’t want . . .
In the same way, you can steer the conversation to make people feel awkward if they talk negatively about their husbands. It’s like the modesty thing. If you're around a modest person, you're very aware of what you're wearing. You want to make sure that you're wearing things that are modest. In the same way, if you're hanging around people who just don’t care, your desire to be modest is kind of different. You don’t really care as much because you know they don’t.
So, what do you do? Well, you intentionally put yourself in a circle of friends whose conversation is constantly aboveboard, who are constantly striving to be where you just want to brag on your husband, even if you don’t maybe feel that way at that moment. You left the house thinking not good thoughts, maybe. He drives you crazy. But instead of wanting to say that, you think of, “Oh, I have such a hard-working husband!”
What’s going to happen is that other mom who’s listening is like, “Oh, I was about to say something bad about mine, but I don’t want to now, because I’ll feel stupid.” You’re right. My husband is a, whatever. Yeah, it’s an amazing thing.
Nancy: Yes, yes. It’s so great, so wonderful. God is so good. It makes you realize too, Allison, that our child-bearing years are really such a short time of our lives. When you think of maybe, depending on when you get married, 22, maybe to just in your 40’s. That is a very short time when you can live into your 80’s or 90’s. It’s not a big part of your life! We do need to embrace that time of our lives and not be thinking of, “Oh, when will these childbearing years end?”
Of course, so many, even in the Christian church, they only have a very short childbearing time. They only have one or two. Oh, that is so terrible! I think in those years, and we are in our childbearing years until we reach menopause. People say, “Oh, so you get pregnant when you're in your thirties.” They’re just astounded! But no! We can get pregnant in our 40’s. How old were you when you had your last baby?
Allison: I was 45.
Nancy: Yes, 45. They say that current statistics are that most women are infertile by the time they’re about 45. But you know, people can get pregnant later than that. It’s all up to the Lord, because He’s in charge.
But we need to embrace our childbearing years because they’re going to end! They’re going to end. Help! It’s been well over 35 years or more since I went through menopause. And look at all these years! Goodness me! So many of those years I still dreamed of having another baby to nurse. Then I did the crazy thing of taking a pregnancy test at 70! Remember?
Allison: I remember you doing that. [laughter]
Nancy: Thinking I was pregnant! I was so nauseated. Thinking I was pregnant. “Oh well, let’s take one!” Of course, Colin and I were so sad when it was negative! [laughter] But I think we make the most of every season. We make the most of our childbearing years. We don’t let them run away on us. We don’t say “No” to God. Then we embrace every baby He wants to give us.
But then, when those years end, OK. Then we have this new season, when our marriages should always be flourishing. But then we can have time to make them FLOURISH EVEN MORE!
Allison: One thing I’m always . . . I don’t know if I’ve ever met someone who’s ever said, “I regret having more children.” No one’s ever said that. No one. We were talking last night how you, Miss Nancy, are kind of famous throughout the world. Well, our big family is kind of famous in our town.
We’re known because we take all the school pictures. People know who we are. We take that seriously because people are watching us like a hawk. Of course, a lot of people probably want us to fall on our faces, so they can pick us apart. But the one thing that I think is interesting is that we’re known because we have eleven children. People think that’s interesting. Interesting. Maybe not something they admire, but no, I think some do admire it.
In fact, I recently got awarded WOMAN OF THE YEAR in our town. It’s kind of funny, because it’s a small town. But one thing that they noticed that they said in my speech where they were introducing me, they kept mentioning that “She’s a mother of many. She’s a grandmother now.” I thought I would get the award because of my community involvement but they didn’t mention that as much, even though we do serve our community a lot. But they did mention a lot about my being a mother.
Because of that acknowledgement, I get a lot of private messages, and a lot of comments on my Facebook post. Almost always, it was, “Man, I regret not having more children! I admire you so much.” Many people are not “I want eleven children,” but most of them that are already past the time, they will say, “I wish I had had more. I wish I had let God be.”
I need to stop and say to everyone who’s listening, just because you allow God to choose the size of your family doesn’t mean you're going to have eleven children. I think that’s probably one of the biggest misconceptions of Above Rubies, that people will say you're all about the numbers. It’s not.
Nancy: Right.
Allison: It’s the idea of just trusting God and that number can be one. That number could be zero. That number could be eleven, or that number could be 19. I just had to say that you never hear people say, “Gosh, I’m so glad I only had two children!” They always say, “I wish I had trusted God, and I had filled my house.” They look at us in an admiring way, like, “I want that.” We couldn’t do what our family does, which is run several successful businesses, if it wasn’t for our family size.
Nancy: That’s true! Oh, yes!
Allison: It’s impossible. We photograph 70 schools, and our competition in our town, I ran into her at the dentist’s office. We’re amiable with her. She said, “I have to ask you. How do you do it? How do you photograph 70 schools? It’s impossible because the numbers don’t line up. You can’t be at that many schools at once.”
I said, “Well, I birthed all my employees! And it’s true! We’re at three different schools at once because of my children. My older children run our crews.” She’s like, “Oooooohhh!” I think she has one child, and I think she’s adopted. I don’t put her down for that, but my point is, you can do so many greater things with a big crew!
Nancy: And that’s the thing. They think, “Oh, I will limit my family so I can do this and this and this!”
Allison: Oh, no!
Nancy: The opposite is so true! You do far more than they can even think. You influence the world more. But as we close, let’s just read the Scriptures. Psalm 92. It’s a picture of those who are getting older. It says here in verse 12: “The righteous shall FLOURISH like the palm tree: he shall grow like a cedar in Lebanon. Those that be planted in the house of the LORD shall FLOURISH in the courts of our God. They shall still bring forth fruit in old age; they shall be fat and FLOURISHING.”
I think that’s a beautiful testimony of our marriages, that they shouldn’t get boring and dry and old. That is a sad thing, because there are many people who get into their middle age, and to tell you the truth, they are so boring! You hear that they’re starting to go into single beds!? I beg your pardon.
Allison: Oh, I know.
Nancy: Then they end up in separate rooms? What has happened? They’re meant to be a married couple! Oh, I love that Scripture in the Song of Solomon, because the Song of Solomon is about the husband and the wife. Of course, it can also be a picture of Christ and His bride.
But it says there, the husband is talking to his wife. He says: “Our bed is green.” You notice it says: “our bed”? It doesn’t say “our beds.” “Our bed is green.” The word “green” there means “luxuriant” and “life-giving” and “verdant.”
“Verdant” is a very bright, lush green. Did you know there’s a difference in greens? We have beautiful green lawns here in America. They look lovely and green. We have green trees and green vegetables.
But you know, when I go back down to New Zealand (one day you've got to come with us). I go down to New Zealand, and my eyes are freaked again, because everything’s greener! It’s something about the ozone layer down there that makes everything green.
Of course, it’s worse for the sun. I grew up as a child with freckles and sunburn and blisters because the sun was so strong, even though you didn’t think it was. It wasn’t hot. But it was just this strong sunlight. It grows this green, and I go back, and it’s so green! It’s that luxuriant, verdant green.
That’s how we are meant to be in our marriages, in our relationship in our marriages, in even our bedroom in our marriages. Some people may have a green bedspread, but you don’t have to have a green bedspread. You just have to have a green bed that is always FRESH and EXCITING and LUXURIANT, and never boring or dry. What do you say?
Allison: Absolutely! We were just joking, because we went to this hotel room in Fort Myers, and we were both so sore after our procedures. We got a bedroom with one bed, because we didn’t need the two beds. We got in this bed, and we were both so miserable, because we were still stiff from our procedures. We both had it done.
The next night we said, “Let’s get two beds. It’s the same price.” So, we got our bedroom with two beds. He slept in one and I slept in the other. We just stared at each other. I was like, “Wow! This is what most married couples probably do when they’re old!” It was the first time in 27 years we’d ever slept in separate beds! And in that situation, I was so happy to have my space!
He woke up the next morning, and he was diagonally in the bed. He had taken over the whole thing. I was like, “OK, we’re not doing this ever again!” But no, I can’t even imagine. I can’t. But it’s very common.
Nancy: Well, I think you love a . . .
Allison: We love a king bed!
Nancy: Because you've had all your children sleeping with you! I can remember when we had, not just a queen, but what do you call it here?
Allison: A double.
Nancy: We only had a double bed, and all the children would come in. I don’t know how we fitted them in, but we did. But now, even now, the other day I said to Colin, “Come in and help me make this king-sized bed.” It’s good to have someone on the other side. I said to him, “Darling, I’m so glad we don’t have a king-sized bed! I would never find you!”
Allison: [laughter] That’s right. That’s right!
Nancy: We hardly move from one another all night.
Allison: That’s so good.
Nancy: “Oh Father, we just thank You so much that You are our God. Thank You that we can talk about all these things. Thank You for all the wonderful young mothers listening, that You will bless them, Lord, and help them to embrace this glorious season of their lives, which goes so quickly.
“And, Lord, all the older mothers listening, I pray that You will bless them and pour out Your Spirit upon them. Lord, that You will give them such a new vision for their marriages, to make them so glorious and lush and fresh and green and alive. Lord God, that You will save them from boringness and staleness. I pray that You will do a beautiful thing in their lives. In the Name of Jesus. Amen.”
Allison: Amen. Amen.
Blessings from Nancy Campbell
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