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PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 153: THE NITTY GRITTY OF FAMILY LIFE

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FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS w/ Nancy Campbell

EPISODE 153 –  THE NITTY GRITTY OF FAMILY LIFE

Nancy Webster joins me for a third session. Another Nancy/Nancy podcast. We talk about how to make easy but nutritious meals for our families, how to establish teamwork, and the value of hard work.

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, From Our Home to Yours, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies. Can you believe it? I've got Nancy Webster with me again today. This is another Nancy/Nancy podcast. Our third one together, Nancy! But you've got so much to share.

Last week we were sharing about vaccines. I did want to mention that there are now four states that have said no to the vaccine passports. They are Texas, Utah, Florida, and now I believe, Tennessee, praise the Lord! And that is good. If your state has not said no to them, I would encourage you to write or call your governor, and your senators, and your congressmen. I think we've really got to get on to doing this, don't we?

Calling our senators, calling our congressmen, calling our governors, even writing a letter I think is even better. Because I find that when I call, I just get one of the secretaries, and you have to tell them, and you hope they pass on the message.

But if you write a letter, I think that's even more powerful. And please ask them, please tell them, “I do not want to have vaccine passports. I am against it. I think it is totally wrong. I don't believe vaccines should be mandatory.”

Now there are going to be some people who are going to want to take them. And that's fine. We live in a free country. So people are free to do it. And we were saying our last podcast that we were certainly not going to take it and we didn't agree with it. But I mean, that's just  how we feel. It's a free country, and therefore, people are free to take it. But we should be free to say “No!”

And to have mandatory passports where you cannot travel, you cannot go to certain places, you cannot go to restaurants, you cannot do this or that unless you're vaccinated, that's worse than communism! That's total pure tyranny! So please speak out against that and keep speaking out against mandatory vaccinations, and all these things that we are facing at this time.

Anyway, we don't want to keep on talking about that. There are so many other things to talk about. And Nancy, let me see, what am I going to ask you about now? Of course, you are now very official. What is your title again? I can't even remember it. It's so long!

Nancy W: I know. It's kind of a big word. I just was licensed as a Functional Nutrition and Lifestyle Practioner through the Functional Nutrition Alliance. It's hard to say.

Nancy: Yes, yes. So you can then take clients and help them with their health.

Nancy W: And my heart is to help people just like me, mommies with lots of children. They poured all their energy, all their finances, and all their time into, and then their own health has slipped. And to help them, and a lot of time finances are tight . . . But there's a whole bunch you can do, even if you don't have the money for fancy stuff, or gojo berries and camu camu. You can do a whole lot with just regular normal people food...

Nancy: Yes!

Nancy W: That can really impact your health positively.

Nancy: And I think that's so important. So, Nancy, I'd like you to share, what are some good basic healthy foods that young mothers should be feeding their families, that will set them on a real foundation of health for their life. What would you suggest?

Nancy W: Well, officially, because when everybody's little, life is hard, and you get stuck a lot of times where you forgot to thaw something. Please don't use your microwave. Don't even have a microwave. We kept a microwave for a little bit so that we could zap a wet washcloth and get it hot, because that happened faster than waiting for the hot water to get hot enough to warm it up enough to put it on the baby's face.

Nancy: That's a good idea!

Nancy W: Yeah, but it's not even worth the counterspace for that anymore! Because they rearrange the molecular structure of the food, and they mess with you. So don't use a microwave!

Nancy: Yes, I know. I refuse to. But I do have one, because I find people come into my home . . .

Nancy W: Oh, and they want to zap something.

Nancy: Yes, yes. They can zap if they want, but I refuse.

Nancy W: Yes, it's that free country thing, right?

Nancy: Yes.

Nancy W: But when life is really overwhelming and hard, and that's definitely part of being a mommy, there's still, nutrition matters. And it matters, even when your children are little. I mean, obviously they're going to be healthier, and you're going to be healthier, but it also matters for their long-term health too, not just to keep them from getting sick at that time period.

Nancy: I mean, how we feed our children when they are young is the foundation for their life! So many people have problems in their older life because it was the way they started out.

Nancy W: When they were young, and they were innocent, and they just ate what Mommy put in front of them, hopefully. And then a lot of moms will also start out, “We're not going to do sugar,” whatever. And then the child starts getting bigger and you get out in public. It's ubiquitous. Every potluck, every party, always has gobs of sugar and chips and all that stuff.

So I think totally making it an off-limits type thing turns it into a little bit of a forbidden fruit. What I've learned in my classes, not just for children but for grownups too, the best way to get compliance towards doing good health eating and supplementing, is to educate. Even our little children, we can educate.

Don't just say, “Oh, sugar hurts your teeth,” or something. You can go into more details when you learn it yourself. But I really think my daughter has been doing that with her daughter who is getting close to four. She thinks that cod liver oil little capsules are candy, and always wants them. She doesn't know any different.

And she has eaten a cookie here, and a piece of birthday cake there, in occasional situations. But it's not a forbidden fruit, so she's not whining for it, or anything. But she eats grass-fed as much as possible, pastured poultry, that kind of stuff. Nutrient-dense meat, lots of vegetables.

You know, some children are a little averse to the texture of salad and stuff like that, or they don't have all their teeth yet, so they can't chew it very well. You can grind it up in the food processor, or a Nutri-bullet or something as they get old enough to process it.

You also, when you steam, or lightly cook vegetables, it breaks open their cell walls, and actually helps release... Vegetables have things that need to come out of them. Broccoli has things called goitrogens in it, or whatever. It's OK. And slather it with butter, because all vegetables need a fat in order to help transport all the vitamins and minerals into your body. So it's OK.

I learned another thing. Toxins from animals they store it in their fat. That's one of the reasons that we get fat. Our bodies are trying to protect our organs from toxins, from plastics and chemicals, and all that stuff. So it's the same for animals, when they are essentially not fed, when they're fed conventionally, so they're eating hormones, antibiotics, genetically modified food, whatever.

So butter is one of the most toxic things if it's not organic, which is awful, because organic butter costs at least twice as much. But if there was a little change that I wish I had done, I knew not to use margarine. That's like plastic. Your body does not know what to do with it. I think most people know  that, but it's cheaper. Don't get tempted.

Give up something else. Don't get tempted. And if you can swing it at all, even try to get at least organic butter. Kerrygold or something. If you live anywhere where you can find a local farmer and you get it, which not everybody does, that’s even better. I know that's luxurious, but it's so important.

And don't cook or microwave in plastic. Try not to store your food in plastic. Store it in glass preferably. We just use mason jars. It saves on having all sorts of dishes kind of crammed into the cabinets.  As far as foods go, you don't have to be fancy, as long as it's good, wholesome food. So like for breakfast . . .

Nancy: Yes! What do you have for breakfast?

Nancy W: Well, OK, so grains really need to soak, preferably ahead of time, before you eat them, whole grains, because they have things called phytates in them that will bind to your vitamins and mineralsand leach them out of your body. So your bones and your teeth suffer.

So if you can soak your grains ahead of time, like even overnight. A lot of times, what I'll do it is I'll put in millet, or some sort of thing like that, I'll put it into the crockpot overnight. You can add a teeny bit of yogurt, or you can add some apple cider vinegar, something acidic.

Nancy: So you are just crockpotting it all night.

Nancy W: And then to add extra water than you would if you were cooking it in a pan.

Nancy: That's right!

Nancy W: So you wake up and breakfast is ready! You don't have to think, “Oh, darn, I didn't prepare. I've got to do cereal!”

Nancy: So, what you're saying, you haven't really presoaked the millet. You're just . . .

Nancy W: Kind of getting it in the crockpot. Preferably probably you should, but this is real life here. I remember Serene saying one time about, I think it was buckwheat, or sunflower seeds, or something, when I was first learning some of her cooking things. Or almonds, I think it was almonds. If you can  get raw almonds, you should soak or sprout or whatever.

But she said sometimes, it's real life if you don't, you can make almond milk, or something. If you can get raw milk, obviously if you're going to do dairy, that's the ultimate kind of dairy to use, because the pasturised messes with milk. A lot of time, at least try to get organic milk.

I understand people don't always have the money. But a lot of times, I think we have more to put towards our food than we think, if we will sit down and really analyze, “Do I really need to rent that movie?” Even just renting a movie twice will buy you some more butter, or whatever. It's that important.

Nancy: So you would make some millet in the crockpot.

Nancy W: That would be an easy breakfast.

Nancy: Yes. What else do you like to do?

Nancy W: An easy breakfast where I'd make yogurt from raw milk. And then we'll put blueberries and nuts on it. That's another quickie breakfast that we'll do that's easy.

Nancy: I love them. I'm not such a fan of the normal rolled oats, although my husband loves them. I love the steel-cut oats. I love them.

Nancy W: Do you soak them?

Nancy: I try to remember. Sometimes I forget.

Nancy W: Yeah, right! Sometimes real life happens.

Nancy: But I try to remember to soak them overnight. I love to cook them, sometimes put berries with them. They're delightful. Lately, I've been having a lovely breakfast. That is, I do my sourdough bread. I make sourdough bread.

So I have my sourdough starter. And so sometimes when I have enough sourdough, don't always have enough, because I have to have enough to make the bread. But when I have some extra, I will make sourdough pancakes.

Nancy W: Oh, we do too!

Nancy: And they are so good!

Nancy W: They're really good, and what you can do is build up extra starter, and then make a whole lot of them. That's what one of my daughters, who is the pancake cooker for me. And then we make a whole bunch, and we save them. You can toast them. They're really good, really crispy. You can put nut butter on them, or whatever for a snack, or a lunch, or a breakfast.

Nancy: That's so interesting!

Nancy W: It's a good way to have some. You can buy frozen pancakes in the freezer section. They're not good for you, but . . .

Nancy: So how do you make your sourdough pancakes? I just use one egg to a cup of sourdough and little bit of salt. Sometimes a little bit of, not baking powder, but baking soda. What do you do?

Nancy W: Yeah, and then milk, or you can use coconut.

Nancy: I don't use any milk in mine at all, just the egg and the sourdough.

Nancy W: Sometimes our starter is really thickand we'll water it down. Do you use water or coconut milk, or whatever?

Nancy: Yes, Mine seems to be just right!

Nancy W: But those are a fun, easy, healthy thing . . .

Nancy: Yes, it's a wonderful breakfast, even just as you say, have them plain. They're just glorious, or just with some berries.

Nancy W: We use maple syrup, just a little bit.

Nancy: Of course, I do the sourdough bread, which is the healthiest bread. It's so great. I don't use any wheat at all. I use spelt and rye. What do you use for yours?

Nancy W: Well, this is kind of embarrassing, but 22 years ago, was that when Y2K was threatening?

Nancy: Yes, 2000, wasn't it?

Nancy W: We bought a whole lot of buckets of wheat.

Nancy: And you've still got them?

Nancy W: And then because we had a big family, all the people who bought it, but had no clue how to use it, they gave us theirs. We've had many seasons where we've not done grain, trying to help our daughter on the spectrum. We've gone grain-free, gluten-free, all the things. I'm actually gluten-free right now.

I did make sourdough from that wheat, still! It's still fine. [Crosstalk] It's organic, but I know the more ancient grains are better to use.

And then our other biggie is soup. I make bone broth, and oh, my goodness, I'm like the bone lady. It's gotten more popular, so more people know about it. You can buy it, but oh, it's a million dollars at the store!

And yet you can make bone broth from even, like chicken bones. Cook a chicken, and then go around and scavenge everybody's bones. Nobody's allowed to throw bones away at our house! You can even make broth from that.

Nancy: Oh yes, I can't bear a bone to be thrown away, especially of course, if it's organic. If it's conventional, I wouldn't think of boiling it up. But I've actually got some bones right now. You're right, I forgot to put them on the stove.

Nancy W: Oh no! Well, I threw mine in the crockpot, because I've burned so many, and they smell horrible when they burn. But it's easy.

Nancy: Oh, I love it.

Nancy W: I used to get turned off. I would look at The Nourishing Traditions Cookbook, and it's got throwing all these billions of things in there.

Nancy: You don't have to.

Nancy W: You can just make it with bones. Put a little water, I put a little vinegar in there and let it soak to pull out the nutrients. I read somewhere that's not necessary, but I'm still doing the way Nourishing Traditions teaches it. And then just keep water in it. If you don't have time to deal with it, and the water's evaporated down, just add more water to it, and let it go. Or drain off some and add more water and get more mileage out of your bones.

Nancy: I usually put in some onions...

Nancy W: And also vegetable scraps, when we make asparagus, and raw things. And then the yukky parts, the ends, I throw into a zip lock bag in the freezer. Onions, onion skins, and everything, I just throw those in when I'm cooking it. Sometimes. If I remember, and if we have it.

Nancy: So then soups are so nutritious, because even if you haven't got bone broth, don't think “Oh, I can't make it.”

Nancy W: Just use water.

Nancy: Just use water.

Nancy W: Or vegetable broth.

Nancy: Yes, I save it, if I'm cooking vegetables, or cooking some potatoes, and there's some water left, I save that, put it in the fridge. I put that in my soup.

Nancy W: Waste not, want not!

Nancy: Absolutely! And then I just load it with vegetables. Oh, yes.

Nancy W: You can throw in leftovers. I mean, even if you had a casserole. You just have to, OK, then people like, “My child doesn't like that.” I know, and there's a difference between having a couple of things. We have a son who thinks sweet potatoes are gross. It's so sad, because they're so good for you. He will not eat sweet potatoes.

But he'll eat everything else, so you know what? He's entitled to not like sweet potatoes. That's OK. But you know the kind of child I'm talking about, that's really, really picky. Actually, sometimes that can be related to a zinc deficiency.

But more often, it's related to their training . . . well, maybe when they were little, and mom was going to introduce beets to them, but mom thought beets were gross. So she's feeding beets to the baby, making this awful face, and they're going to pick up on it.

But also, I've seen so often that this child won't eat their vegetables, that's usually the main thing they don't want to eat. So they don't eat enough, and then they're hungry later, and they can snack. Or mom will pull out something, peanut butter and crackers or something if they won't eat it.

Nancy: I think the modern-day child lives too much on snacks.

Nancy W: They do!

Nancy: They have so many, and why? Because the mother is buying them into the home. You don't have to. I mean, if you don't want your children to eat something, you don't buy them. You don't have them in your home. You don't have them in your pantry.

Like I don't have white sugar in my home. And I don't have all these processed things. And I don't have all these snacks. I mean, really, we're not meant to live on snacks, but really good food.

Nancy W: Real stuff.

Nancy: And I can't believe, you know, mothers, if your child doesn't like something, “Oh well, maybe I'll give you this.” I taught, “This is what you eat, and you're going to eat it!”

Nancy W: I've heard hunger is a good sauce. When I was little, if we didn't clean our plates, Mama would put it in the refrigerator, and we'd get it cold for the next meal.

Nancy: Exactly! But that's how it was back then. We all did that.

Nancy W: I guess so. But it did make me, that method made me kind of compulsive about cleaning my plate. And I don't want, I want them to be able to . . . So we didn't do that to ours. But they still had to eat some, like three bites, or whatever.

Nancy: Yes, yes, if they didn't like something, I would say, “Just the tiny little bit.”

Nancy W: And nothing else! No replacement or snack kind of thing. We modeled it by eating it, and they just figured out, “Oh well, this is normal.”

Nancy: But as you say, with soups, you can put in all the vegetables.

Nancy W: Everything!

Nancy: Oh, I mean, I start off with onions and garlic. But then I go into sweet potato and potatoes and oh, I love to put in zucchini, but eggplant. I love eggplant in my soup.

Nancy W: Oh, that sounds good!

Nancy: They go beautiful in soups. just chop them all up into little pieces. It's so beautiful, and I love the white radish, the big, long white radish.

Nancy W: It's fun to make it pretty, isn't it? All the different colors. So another trick for busy mommies though, you're like “OK, that's a good idea, but chopping all that stuff?” Or “I can only get to the store once every two weeks. Fresh stuff's kind of not fresh by then.”

We use a lot of frozen vegetables because the frozen vegetables are usually flash-frozen right after they're picked. We don't always buy organic ones because of the money unfortunately. It would be preferable to get all organic ones.

But that way you can dump in a bag of frozen vegetables too, and it speeds it up. I'm just thinking of, and it's still like that at our house a lot of times. We're like, “Oh no, what can I make?”

Nancy: I love celery in soups too.

Nancy W: Celery goes very well. And then you get into the spices. We use tumeric, how do you say it?

Nancy: Tumeric. But everyone says it differently.

Nancy W: I always did too, but then I got paranoid that I was saying it wrong, because I've heard other people say it other ways. But whatever. That's super good. I throw it into every soup. All our soup is kind of yellowish orange. Curry. And those are all really, really good for our bodies.

Nancy: Oh yes, yes. And I just recently, I've been making it with cumin. It was a recipe my mother often made. It's called “Root Stew.” And all of it is all the root vegetables. So wonderful. Well, it takes a lot of chopping, but I don't mind chopping. I've got so quick at chopping over the years I can chop, chop, chop!

Nancy W: And be safe, lady, huh?

Nancy: You know, you just start off with onions, sauteeing the onions, and maybe perhaps some celery too. And then you start putting in all these chopped root vegetables like potatoes, sweet potatoes, parsnips . . . I love parsnips. Some people don't even know what parsnips are!

Nancy W: Yes! Turnips?

Nancy: Yes, you could  put them in. Pumpkin, butternut, any root vegetable. Then you can flavor it with salt and pepper and curry. Absolutely delectable!

Nancy W: Sounds like it.

Nancy: So good for you, with all the colors. I made one the other night and I put beets in it. Of course, that made the whole thing red, but it was so nice. It made it beautiful.

So I mean, I still make, because we have so many visitors, we have people just coming and going here. It's unbelievable. I always like to make a lovely meal for them, so it's always some kind of meat, and vegetables, and a salad. I rarely have a meal without three or four vegetables, and a salad.

But then I'll make lots of soups too. I love soups on the weekends so it's there for everybody to take whenever they want. But when you make soup, you're having more than just a meal of meat and vegetables. Often, I'll have nine to ten vegetables in my soup, just filled and packed with them. It's all in the soup. All the nutrients so it's very nourishing. They're so nourishing.

Nancy W: They're very nourishing. And on crazy days, if you're on the go, that's a hard thing, especially when you're toting along a bunch of little people. You can throw it in a thermos and that keeps it hot. And then if it's a little one that's it's kind of messy, you can fish out and hand them the soft vegetables, when you're away from home.

On the run is hard, and I know that it's the best to stay home, but it happens when you've got big children and little children, sometimes you have to haul the little ones along to the big children's homeschool coop, or whatever it is.

Nancy: Yes. Oh it's so easy and basic. When children do want snacks, because they do need something in between meals just to keep them going, what would you give little ones? What would you suggest?

Nancy W: Well, I know a lot of people do a lot of dried fruits, like raisins and things. That's real sticky and sweet and that can encourage that sweet tooth. We would use currants now, black currants more than we used to.

Nancy: But they're so hard to get!

Nancy W: I get them from Azure. You can buy a little bag of Sun-Maid brand at Krogers, you know, at the grocery store.

Nancy: We used to get them back in Australia and New Zealand, but I haven't found them so easily here. I think carrot sticks, good cheese, celery sticks.

Nancy W: Carrot sticks, crispy nuts soaked overnight in salt water and then put them in the oven on low to dry, or dehydrator. Those are good. Apples and peanut butter, or almond butter, something like that. Or yogurt. Plain yogurt.

Nancy: Just good wholesome food.

Nancy W: Real food.

Nancy: If that's all you have in your house, that's what you eat. And your children get used to it.

Nancy W: Right. They don't know.

Nancy: So many young people today, they are not used to real food.

Nancy W: No.

Nancy: They don't even know what some of the vegetables are called.

Nancy W: Oh, I've educated the grocery store people a lot of times. “What's this? What's this?”

Nancy: I know!

Nancy W: Cilantro. Parsley, they're like, “What's that?”

Nancy: I love rutabaga. I grate it and soft cook it in butter and it's just glorious. Some of my girls who come to live with us, they've never even heard of it, and when they've had it, it becomes their favorite vegetable. There are so many vegetables that we can try, and they're just so wonderful, aren't they?

Nancy W: And those are really good carbs, so for mommies who are watching their weight, of course, Trim Healthy Mama has it all figured out for you.

Nancy: Oh, yes!

Nancy W: But it's just for starters. Those are way better, if you're going to do those starchy, get them from your vegetables.

Nancy: So we've talked about food, but there's so many other things in family life. I know that you have always sought to make sure that your children know how to work to prepare them for life. Talk a little bit about that. I think it's a very important thing, raising our children, teaching them a work ethic. I see so many children who have no clue about work! What do you think about that?

Nancy W: Well, in our family, I know that it was an advantage, because again, we were really capable, but there were too many jobs for mom and dad to do alone, so we absolutely needed our children to help us! It wasn't just a little character development thing. It was like, “We need your help!” And they, I think . . .

Nancy: This would be when you moved out to the country, wouldn't it?

Nancy W: We moved to the country when our oldest was 12, because one of our things, I mean we wanted to live in the country forever. But also, we wanted them to have what we called “man jobs,” because the first two were 12 and 10 then. So they needed “man jobs,” besides just emptying the dishwasher, and pushing the lawnmower around the little yard. There wasn't that much to do.

It provided a whole lot, because we heated with wood. We grew a big garden, never super successfully, but we tried every single year. And that meant picking, you know Tennessee grows rocks. We have the cutest picture of all of them around, showing off their huge pile of rocks they picked out of the garden.

But I think one thing that we were really successful, partially probably because I wanted to oversee and make sure that it was done OK, but it was a team effort. So I didn't say, “Y'all go out and do this.” I went out with them, or Greg went out with them.

And then we could guide them if they needed a little getting back onto the path. Also, we could encourage them. “Oh, you're doing a good job!” And I think they felt needed, and they were encouraged.

Then they enjoyed the fruits of the labors. Even in the kitchen, back to the cooking part, I always had them right there with me, even the boys, making bread and stuff like that.

Nancy: How do you think that has affected them, prepared them, now that they're grown?

Nancy W: They're really good husbands because they can take care. I know our oldest, when he started working for other people and they all wanted him to stay. But they were all stairsteps. Because I know he worked at a grocery store when he was 16 in the vegetable section. I guess he put all the stuff away, and he asked the lady, “What else can I do?” And she was like “What?”

So he's found his own job of cleaning the mirrors that the vegetables reflect, at least in that grocery store they did. And she was like in awe, because nobody's ever . . .  To him, it was like, “Well, I'd rather do something than be bored!”

Nancy: Absolutely!

Nancy W: But Adam was put in the garden to work, to tend it. We're supposed to work, and I know from me growing up, Mama wanted me to do bunches of extracurricular activities at school. I went to a regular school. I went to college, and I didn't know how to wash clothes. And that's so basic. Little children can wash their own clothes, really by the time you're nine or ten.

Our daughter with Down's Syndrome washes her own clothes. She does our dishes. But we've drawn with a permanent marker, I drew on the washing machine so she would know where it starts and stops, that kind of stuff, until she learned.

We think they have to be really grown up before they can do it. They're capable. Get a stool. We always had stools in the kitchen so they could be right there. It was a pain. (laughter)

Nancy: I think that that is so important to basic, basic things. Because as you said that, well, just read the Scripture in Genesis.

Nancy W: Oh, Adam, yeah.

Nancy: Where it says that, chapter two, verse 15: “And the Lord God took the man and put him into, the garden of Eden, to dress it and to keep it.” Now “to dress it,” the word in the Hebrew there means, “to work,” and “to work hard, with the sweat coming down your face.” It's not just casual work, it's hard labor, because work is therapeutic. It is.

I think we should teach our children to love work. Even make up a song as we're doing work, loving work, and “I love this,” and I love to say, “I love work!” so that they don't think that work is a chore. No, it's life. It's life. We're meant to work, and it's very therapeutic.

As we work, it is out of work that inventions come. People do things, but oh, there's a special way they can do things. An efficient way, a better way, and inventions come out of work. They don't come out of just doing nothing.

So I think work, the principle of work is a very important thing to teach our children, so they grow up knowing it is normal, knowing that it's fun, and knowing that . . .

Nancy W: It's satisfying to do a good job.

Nancy: Oh yes! And to do it well. If they haven't done it well, we have to . . .

Nancy W: We have a little song, somebody else we learned the tune, but it's “Whatsoever you do, do it heartily unto the Lord.” And we talked about, you're not just doing this for us, you're doing it for God, too. That's also inspiring.

Nancy: Oh, yes! I have a few Scriptures here from the New Living Translation, but they're good:

Proverbs 14:23: “Work brings profit, but mere talk leads to poverty.”

Proverbs 12:11: “Hard work means prosperity. Only fools idle away their time.”

Proverbs 12:14: “People can get many things by the words they say. The work of their hands also gives them many benefits.”

Proverbs 12:24: “Work hard and become a leader. Be lazy and become a slave.”

Nancy W: Oh, wow!

Nancy: That's good, isn't it? Good memory verses for our children, aren't they?

Proverbs 12:27, “Lazy people don't even cook the game they catch, but the diligent make use of everything they find.” Yes. That's what we do when we're managing our homes, isn't it? We don't waste things. Do you know that I hate waste?

Nancy W: Even your potato water, you said you save. Like right. (laughter)

Nancy: People waste so much! In fact, I can't believe it, how people, they'll, just OK, the food is on the table, and they dish it out on their plates. And they'll just leave it!

Nancy W: Instead of just taking a little.

Nancy: Ooh, what can I do? They've already dished it out. It's been on your plate. I can't keep it. I'm going to throw it out. But I've got to throw out good wholesome food? Oh. So I like to teach children, “Don't take too much. Just take what you think you can eat. You can always come back for more. But you've got to eat everything on your plate, so just start out small.”

Nancy W: That's good training at potlucks too. The children will pile it on, and then there's not enough for the grown-ups.

Nancy: I have to do this even at our own family gatherings. Right now, we're up to a hundred people! When we have Christmas, when we have Thanksgiving. So every big celebration, Nana has to get up and give her little speech. “Now children, remember you only take what you can eat. You can come back for as much as you like. But just take what you can eat.” And yet still I go round, and I find beautiful lamb on their plates, and oh, it's so terrible.

And I recycle, and I save this, and I save that. I mean, I don't hoard, but I save what can be used, because I can't bear waste.

Proverbs 13:4: “Lazy people want much, but get little. But those who work hard will prosper and be satisfied.”

Proverbs 13:11: “Wealth from get rich quick schemes quickly disappears. Wealth from hard work grows.”

So time has gone again, precious ladies, but I do hope you've been so blessed by Nancy joining with me. We've had three Nancy/Nancy podcasts.

Dear Father, we thank You that we can come together. We can talk about the things that we do in our homes and encourage one another.

I pray that You will pour out Your blessings upon each mother today. Lord, give them new inspiration, new understanding, new ideas. Save them from ever getting into a rut.

I pray that You'll give them more understanding and inspiration as they mother. And as their children grow, give them new ideas and understanding in how to deal with them, how to raise them. We thank You that we do not have to do this on our own, but You are with us. Amen.

Blessings from Nancy Campbell

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