PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | Episode 120: HERE IT IS— YOUR DISEASE-BUSTING, ANTI-AGING MIRACLE PILL!
FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS w/ Nancy Campbell
EPISODE 120: HERE IT IS— YOUR DISEASE-BUSTING, ANTI-AGING MIRACLE PILL!
But it’s actually not a pill!
Rocky Barrett: Welcome to the podcast, From our Home to Yours, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.
Nancy Campbell: Hello ladies!
Well today is a very special day because I have my lovely daughter Pearl with me. Wow, I feel so privileged to get Pearlie because as you know, Pearl and Serene do the THM poddy.
They not only do that every week, but they do their “UnShow,” another poddy. I sort of think half the time they must be poddied out. Anyway in the middle of all her business Pearlie said she would come and be with us today. We have a most interesting subject to talk about, so just hang on for a minute.
Before I get talking you must say, “Hello!”
Pearl Barrett: Oh yes, hello, hello everybody, great to be here! And we only do the UnShow once a month, Mum, so I’m not too poddied out.
NC: That’s so good.
Anyway, before we get on to this most interesting subject, I would like to ask you something: Did you get to either go or did you get to see online THE RETURN, which was on Saturday in Washington D.C. with Jonathan Cahn?
It was the National and Global Day of Repentance and Prayer. We didn’t get to go but we did watch it online and we were able to listen to Jonathan Cahn’s prophetic message to the nation. It was so powerful. It was God speaking to America.
I want to encourage you that if you didn’t get to see it or hear it please check it out. You can go to YouTube and just check out Jonathan Cahn’s Return National Day of Prayer and Repentance.
If possible, listen or watch it and gather your whole family around because what happened on Saturday and the message that he gave was to everyone in the whole nation.
It’s now a scary time really. We really have to respond and if there is a response in this nation of repentance and turning back to God, I believe we will see a great revival. But if we don’t take any notice and there’s not a returning back, a returning back to God to pursuing God, to righteousness, to life, to family, to everything that is on the heart of God we can only expect His judgment and calamity.
So it is a scary time. It’s really over to us as a nation and I believe everyone needs to take part. I just encourage you to make sure you don’t miss out on listening if you did miss it.
We were having our family devotions this morning. It’s amazing because so many of the Scriptures just spoke to us again. One of them was Isaiah 63:18 and it says: “The people of thy holiness have possessed it but a little while . . ..”
That’s talking about the land. God gave the land of Israel to them as an everlasting possession. But they didn’t hold it for long because of their sin.
It goes on to say: “ . . . our adversaries have trodden down thy sanctuary.”
Everything that was of God got trodden down and then they got vomited out of the land because of their sin and yet it was theirs by divine mandate.
Even for us today, I believe that God planned for America to be this city set on a hill, a light to the nations even as Israel is a light to the nations. But we really, as the people of God, wow, I don’t think we’re where God wants us to be. We’re pretty pathetic and I believe there needs to be such a turning back.
I think of Nehemiah. This verse always gets to me because we’re even experiencing it a little now and if we allow things to go on as they are, we could yet experience this fully.
It says here in Nehemiah 9:36, 37: “Behold, we are servants this day, and for the land that thou gavest unto our fathers to eat the fruit thereof and the good thereof, behold, we are servants in it.”
Isn’t that terrible? To be servants in a land that belongs to YOU?
Wow, we are free people in this US of A but if we do not return back to God, we may not always be a free people.
It goes on to say: “And it yieldeth much increase unto the kings whom thou hast set over us because of our sins: also they have dominion over our bodies, and over our cattle, at their pleasure, and we are in great distress.”
Wow. That’s so powerful. They even had dominion over their bodies. We have now all this great “excitement” about a vaccine coming for this current virus. They want to make that mandatory.
I hope that you are writing and calling your governor and writing to the president. Write to every person you can think of to plead with them that they do not make this mandatory because that’s having dominion over our bodies.
We know that Bill Gates, who is the instigator of all this, his whole plan is to de-populate the earth. Of course he can do that through vaccinations. Some people will get away with it but there are many people to whom it will be such a detrimental thing to their bodies.
I believe, I am a great believer in freedom, and I do not believe that we should ever have to have people who take dominion over our bodies and tell us what to do and what we should have to do with our bodies. But that is a judgment that comes when we are in sin and this land is in sin.
We have laws that allow babies to be aborted right up until birth. We have laws that allow same sex marriage. We have laws that allow people to change the whole way that God created them. These are such abominations, and we have to turn and repent from them, that God will heal our land and we will live in freedom and they will not have dominion over our bodies.
Anyway, I’m sure you feel just like I do at this time. Make sure that you don’t miss out and you get to hear that message. In fact, there were things happening all day: Prayer and words for the nation, the whole day. You can listen to that.
Now, we still haven’t got on to our question yet, to our interesting subject, but I must get Pearlie to talk about what’s happening this week in your family, Pearlie.
PB: Oh yes, we have a wedding! So my Noble, he is my second to last, he’s my fourth, he’s getting married to a beautiful girl called Megan.
We’re just so excited because we love her so much. They’re actually going to live on our land. There’s a little barn with an apartment on top of the barn.
NC: The Poddy.
PB: Yes, it’s actually our poddy cabin. They’re going to live there for the meantime until they get established. But they’re a beautiful couple. They’ve been with one another, courting for about three years. They were young.
NC: Yes, they started courting at fifteen. But they have somehow lasted till they were eighteen years of age to get married.
You think, “Oh goodness me, they’re so young!” But you know what? I always call them “Old Ma and Pa” because they’re just so mature and beautiful in their relationship.
They’re not really like many young people. They’ve got maturity about them, haven’t they?
PB: Yes, they do. It’s just been amazing to see because I’m not a mother who is really into young dating or anything. When they first looked at one another, they had this look in their eyes like, “Wow” and we all could tell something was happening.
We thought, “This is too young. Fifteen! They’re not ready to be married. We’re only about courting or dating if you’re going to marry someone. What do we do?”
It was on both sides of the family. Megan’s mom, Erin, who is a friend of the family, she’s like, “What do we do?”
We sort of allowed this to go slowly at first and they were sort of just special friends and that developed into more. We’ve watched it and it’s been really beautiful. I’ve been amazed and I’ve been so thankful to God. I’m just so thankful that He’s brought my son such an amazing, amazing girl.
Sometimes you think to yourself, “Well our children are only going to start dating when they’re eighteen” or “Only at this time.” Things happen that are not predictable sometimes, and I think if we pray through it and we just allow God to lead us, beautiful things can happen. Sometimes it’s just not the way we think they’re going to happen.
NC: I see that it is a beautiful safety. I mean, instead of just kind of going off and doing all their young people things, it’s brought stability to both of them. I think it doesn’t happen to everyone. Some don’t meet that one that God has for them until they’re older.
But when they do meet young and you recognize that God has brought them and when God brings them together, often it’s just the greatest blessing. I see that in how a lot of our grandchildren have married young, but they’ve all been ready for marriage. They’ve been ready to take on the responsibility for marriage, to embrace family, and to provide.
If they have that maturity, they are ready to marry.
But anyway, we’ve got the wedding on Sunday, haven’t we?
PB: Yes, we have. One thing about that, both of my sons have married early at eighteen, but then I have another son who will (maybe) be getting married next year at twenty-one, so he’s a little older.
But it still seems young! We were never all about, “You get married young, children! “We were never all about that but once they find their person we were about, “Well it doesn’t matter the age so much.”
NC: No, the age doesn’t matter.
PB: But I look at my sons and before they found their partners in life, they were young boys, they were teenagers, they were great guys. But we’re all about that if they want to get serious about someone, they need to have marriage in mind because what’s the use of it?
Watching them mature into men, who knew they would have to look after a family, has been incredible because that was the thing that took them from boy to man. It was the idea that, “I’m going to be a husband, I’m going to be a father. Okay, let’s get my act together here.”
NC: Yes, absolutely. We have watched those three boys, Bowen and Noble and Rocklyn, actually change from boys to men overnight.
I remember Bowen was still in school, and then all of a sudden, he saw this beautiful girl, Kahoru, and in about six months he grew up to be a man.
Wow, it was just unbelievable! I think its marriage that matures a man, or preparing for marriage, because every one of them said, “You’re not getting married until you can provide.” So they had to get involved and they’ve all got amazing jobs.
Rocklyn is now in real estate. In fact, his future father-in-law said, “You’re not marrying my daughter until you make good money.” So he’s really got into it!
Noble was working with Trim Healthy Mama but now he’s taking on a whole sawmill at eighteen! Isn’t that amazing?
NC: Yes, along with his cousin, Cedar, that’s Serene’s son. That’s exciting for them.
But we’ve got a subject and I’m anxious to get on to that.
PB: Before that I’ve got to say something else! My mother she’s like really revving me up to talk about the wedding because if you don’t know my Mum, Nancy, she really loves weddings more than any other person in the world.
Mum just came over to my house the other day, we’re just like a little stone’s throw away. She came over and just sat there and wanted to talk about the wedding and I’m like, “I love weddings and I love that they’re getting married but I’m just not as much of a wedding person as you.”
Every time I would try to change the subject Mum would bring it back to the wedding!
NC: Oh yes because I think they’re the most wonderful days! Oh I just love weddings!
But I think God loves weddings, too. Actually in the Word of God we read that when God’s blessing is upon a nation it says that there will be” the voice of joy, and the voice of gladness, and the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride” (Jeremiah 33:11)/
It’s all celebration and joy! That’s the voice of the Bible’s description of weddings!
Then that same word is used in the context of judgment. It says that when God’s judgment is upon the land that there will no more be heard the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride and the voice of joy and gladness (Jeremiah 7:34; 16:9; and 25:10).
That’s the thing that God uses to say that there is judgment upon the land. That’s pretty powerful, isn’t it?
We see God loves to come into weddings. But what I wanted to say is, how in the world, Pearlie, did you manage to get the most beautiful daughters-in-law in the whole of the world? Well two, you have got Kahoru, and then Megan gets married on Sunday, and then next year Rocky is getting married to Mary Beth. But how they are all so, how can you describe them, absolutely beautiful?
PB: Yes, they are all physically beautiful girls, all three of them. You just stare at them and you’re like, “Wow, oh my goodness.”
But really, they are. If we go out as a family and we bring everybody, people will actually comment and mention like, “How did you get all these beautiful girls?” But really, it’s their hearts. None of them even realize they’re beautiful, I think.
They’re beautiful, beautiful. Every day my husband and I pinch ourselves and we say, “We’re so blessed. We’re just so blessed!”
Any way, we’re going to get on this subject mother! I know you want to talk about weddings!
NC: Yes but anyway, back to this subject. Actually, you know what we’re going to talk about? We’re going to talk about one of the nerves in our body. It’s actually the longest nerve in our body. Do you know what it is? Does anybody know what the longest nerve in your body is?
Okay, tell them, Pearlie!
PB: Okay, so it starts with “V.” Vagus. It’s your Vagus nerve. But actually, Mum, it’s more like a muscle than a nerve because the more you use it, the stronger it becomes.
The reason we want to talk about it today is because of what, when it activates, and when I say activates, who is doing the activating of it? You.
You can hack this Vagus nerve and you want to have it on. You want to turn your Vagus nerve on. You want what’s called “Higher Vagul Turn” in the scientific world.
I’m not a doctor or anything, I’m a researcher and I love this stuff but it’s really going to impact your life in huge ways as it has mine, understanding about this nerve in your body, which as Mum has said is the longest nerve.
Think of it as a big power line going from your brain to your gut. It’s constantly passing information between the two. When activated, and Mum I’ll swing it back to you because I can really talk.
NC: Yes but isn’t there another name for it? Isn’t it called the Wanderer nerve because it wanders all through your body to all of the parts? That’s why it’s so important.
PB: Yes. Now when it is activated, here’s why you want to activate it because it regulates all aspects of your body, including your heartbeat, your blood pressure, digestion, endocrine function. That’s all your hormones, your immune defense, even the health and length of your telmerones.
Do you know what those are, Mummy?
NC: No, say that word again.
PB: Telmerones.
NC: The what?
PB: Yes, it’s telmerones.
NC: Tell me how you spell it.
PB: Um, it’s T-E-L-M-E-R-O-N-E-S.
NC: That’s a new word for me so I’m going to find out!
PB: Well you’re going to love it, Mum, because these are the cells that determine how swiftly or slowly you age.
NC: Oh I like that!
PB: Because you’re almost eighty so you’ve got another fifty years of course! These are your long-life cells. These determine how long your body will live.
NC: Oh boy, I’m getting into this one.
PB: Okay! Also, inflammation is huge. When your Vagus nerve is activated it SHUTS DOWN ALL THE INFLAMMATION. It may not completely but it is the thing that pulls down inflammation in your body. Also chronic inflammation and organ damage, there is just a massive amount of studies on the Vagus nerve right now.
Science is doing a study that shows it even reverses organ damage in your body, which is unheard of because organs are hard to reverse when there’s damage to them.
NC: Well this is interesting because you must be really activating it.
Pearlie popped over yesterday, well that’s what we say— “Popped over.” She didn’t actually pop! But we always say, “I’m popping over to see you!” or, “Someone just popped over!”
But anyway, Pearlie popped over. Colin and I were going for a walk and we were walking away after talking to Pearl.
My husband said to me, “You know, Pearl just looks so much younger than she even did when she was young!”
PB: Oh I don’t know about that, Mum. But I’m about to turn fifty in February so I’ll take it.
Anyway, so let’s talk more about how do we activate this nerve? But another thing it does— it turns on the parasympathetic nervous system and you probably know what that is, right Mummy?
NC: No—that shows my ignorance!
PB: I’m asking you all these questions like you better know! This is crucial to every aspect of your life. It’s the system in your body that makes your whole body go, “Ahh.” It’s called rest and digest.
NC: I love that.
PB: Yes you do.
NC: I like that. I often do that.
PB: Yes, rest and digest rather than the “Gur” the other system in your body. It’s there for a reason but it’s either fight or flight. You know, something is happening, and you have to pull your children out of a fire or whatever.
So many people have that on constantly whereas your parasympathetic nervous system makes you digest your food and makes you relax. Your Vagus nerve turns that on, too, which is huge.
Dr. Jeffery Rediger in his ground-breaking book Cured has this to say about the Vagus nerve: “The more you use it the better you get at using it and the more health benefits you reap.”
So how do we activate this nerve?
NC: That’s the thing: How do we activate it so we can get these blessings?
PB: Well science has just recently discovered what this nerve does so right now they are in the quest to be like, “Whose going to be the first big doctor that comes out with the “Here’s how you activate your vagus nerve, take this pill.”
They’re trying to medicalize it and do all that. They’re also doing studies on electro stimulation where they use electricity and all sorts of things because studies have shown that it can help arthritis, colitis, epilepsy, congestive heart failure, chromes disease, headaches, depression, and the list goes on and on.
So there’s a race to find out what activates it.
But you don’t have to involve yourself in a clinical trial. You don’t have to do any of these things.
NC: No, we want to get down to tintacks here in the home.
PB: There are other much, actually really affective ways, of YOU turning your Vagus nerve on. I want to talk about the biggest one soon but there are some things that you can do before I’m going to talk about the biggest thing.
Just learn to SLOW YOUR BREATHING. If you’re realizing that you’re breathing fast, that turns your Vagus nerve off, so just slow it.
It’s actually your breath out. I didn’t realize that. You tend to think, “Breath in, I need to learn to relax.” It’s actually that breath out for five seconds, which actually turns it on much more affectively than the breath in.
Slow it and then concentrate on the breath out.
DISPELLING STRESSFUL THOUGHTS AND FOCUSING ON POSITIVE ONES can do it, too, which I’m going to focus on more.
There are different things, but I want to talk about the biggest one that they’ve discovered.
In his book, Dr. Jeffery says, “When you experience feelings of LOVE and connecting, that plays a song for your Vagus nerve.”
We’re not even talking about like falling in love with someone here, although that can help your Vagus nerve. But it’s the small moments of love that you cultivate throughout the day with your husband, with your children, maybe even a friend, maybe even someone you don’t know.
You’re out in the grocery store and you give a kind smile or a kind word. That stimulates your Vagus nerve.
You don’t have to go around saying, “Oh I love you!” to everybody.
That’s good, right, but it’s these micro moments they’ve discovered constantly throughout the day, making more of them than you usually do and focusing in on them. Actually thinking about, “Oh I love my child. Let me show that moment of love to my child.”
Your husband walks in the door, “Oh let me show him how much I love him right now. Let me express it.”
They’ve actually found that a LONG HUG OR A STRONG HUG, not a light hug, stimulates your Vagus nerve.
And so it stimulates yours and it stimulates your husband’s. It stimulates yours and it stimulates your child’s.
They even say a FIRM HANDSHAKE will do it with a stranger. It’s none of this light mamsy pamsy. You know how we always grew up and you taught my brothers especially and us, “Never shake like a little fish. Shake firmly.”
But there’s science to that!
NC: Isn’t it amazing because you know, have you shaken the hand of someone that’s all limp and they give you this limp handshake? You feel like vomiting, don’t you?
It just shows you a lot of things are just natural. We will naturally do what is right.
But I love that, Pearlie. I love it. You know, because I was just thinking as you were speaking, that you say science is revealing this, but do you know what? The Bible reveals it.
If you go back to Titus 2 in that passage where it tells the older women to teach the younger women, there are two things amongst the others. One is that wives are to love their husbands. But do you know what the word for “love your husband” is?
PB: No.
NC: There are different Greek words for love. There is eros, which is sexual love. Then there is agape, which is God’s love, which you know we love even when we don’t feel like loving.
But the word that is used for loving your husband is philandros and it’s from that philio word meaning: “Affectionate love.” So the Bible right there tells us, “Okay older mums, tell the young women they’ve got to be affectionate, showing it to their husbands.”
You don’t just think, “Oh I love my husband.” When I look at my husband, I look at him and I think, “Oh I just love this guy.” I can just look at him and I’m just in love. But that’s not enough. He most probably doesn’t see me staring at him in love. But I have to SHOW it.
When I show it (and I like it that it’s not just a little hug, it’s a strong hug). Wow, that’s cool. I’ll just get a bit stronger.
PB: Yes and you know that’s something that we develop. I didn’t know about the Vagus nerve back in the years when my husband and I developed this. But I thought, “I’m not going to walk past him in the house without hugging him” and we do.
NC: I love that, too. Now did you know? Have I ever told you this story?
Before we were married a dear old gentleman came up to my husband. He walked on two canes. This man told my husband, “I have never passed my wife in the house without stopping to give her a hug.” That was the advice that he passed on to us.
I have to confess, I haven’t done that every time I passed my husband. In fact, in the early days, you’re so busy with babies and life and overwhelmingness and I needed to be reminded.
This is good we are talking about these things. We are reminding you of what is meant to be normal and natural. I guess you come to understand things more as you go on. But you know, now that is the thing that we plan to do. You always miss every now and then, but you try not to miss so that when you see them, you’re going to connect.
PB: Yes, it becomes habit. Then when we walk past each other and we don’t hug, we turn around quickly and look at each other like, “What just happened?”
Then we’ll go back and hug.
But as you say, life happens. Sometimes there are busy days and you’re rushing around the bedroom to the laundry. Don’t feel down on yourself but do cultivate that because, like you said Mum, the Scriptures have always been there. Science just catches up.
I’m a researcher of science, for health specifically. The more I research science, the more the Bible just backs it up day after day after day after day.
NC: Yes because not only is the word, “Love your husbands” a very tangible affectionate feeling of touchy love but also, it’s the same with your children.
The word for “love your children” is also the basis of the philio word, which is affectionate, tangible, hands on love.
The Bible is amazing!
PB: Yes. And you know what children love the most, right? When they’re squished in the middle of a hug between you and your husband. I mean, that is like the best. So you can still keep it up if you are holding your child. Children just love it. They giggle.
It’s so good for their vagul tone.
We’ve got five minutes left, Mum, on this one.
NC: You need to come back next session! You’ve got to!
PB: We’re just scratching the surface.
NC: Okay yes, next session but carry on!
PB: All right. So essentially, we are created for love. God is love, right? Essentially love is your disease busting, anti-aging, total health miracle pill.
It already was biblically, but now it is scientifically. It is your disease busting, anti-aging, total health miracle pill.
NC: You’re allowed to say that again because this is amazing! This is life changing. This is going to change everything that happens in your home. If you get this, this is going to change the relationship you have with your husband. Wow, he’s going to be bombed out of his brain!
In fact, the minute he walks through the door, just look out! Then every time you pass him, he’s just going to get undone with you.
Then your children, you’re just going to overflow them. It’s just going to change your home and your life and everybody you meet when you go out!
So Pearl, say it again!
PB: Okay, LOVE IS YOUR DISEASE-BUSTING, ANTI-AGING, TOTAL HEALTH MIRACLE PILL! -
Now, I want to get to the end of my sentence, Mummy. It sounds like we’re selling snake oil or something, like it’s too good to be true, but it’s not according to discoveries and science. It’s spot on.
And once again it backs up the Scriptures.
But of course we need to get more skilled in this love practice—it’s a skill. We can’t just say, “Oh today I’m going to love, and all my ailments are going to go away.”
It’s a skill like a master. You begin like an apprentice and you work your way up. These things we practice, and we practice them until they’re perfect.
Just like we should eat wisely and move our bodies in order to prevent and heal illness, loving others more consciously and more often, and do the same thing. In fact, it can even be more affective.
In his book Cured, Dr. Jeffery says that if you can rearrange your life (and that’s REARRANGE IT. We’re going to be undone here and we’re going to build it back up) to more frequently experience these higher states of love. This is what he says and he’s a doctor. You can inoculate yourself against chronic fight or flight response.
NC: Praise the Lord! We don’t even need vaccines!
PB: That’s what he says! As surely as you could get vaccinated against tuberculosis, it’s like your natural vaccination.
NC: Okay ladies! We just don’t need vaccines! We’ve just got it if we get this!
PB: Barbara Fredrickson, she’s a Ph.D., she studied the vagus nerve and how emotions impact our health for over two decades.
In an article titled “The Science of Love” she puts it this way and I don’t know if she’s a Christian or not but she’s just a secular scientist: “Just as your body was designed to extract oxygen from the earth’s atmosphere and nutrients from the foods you ingest, your body was designed to love.
“Love, like taking a deep breath or eating an orange when you’re depleted and thirsty not only feels great, but it also is life giving and indispensible source of energy. It’s sustenance and it’s health. In describing love like this, I’m not just taking poetic license but I’m drawing on science.
“New science that illuminates for the first time how love and the absence of love fundamentally alters the biochemicals in which your body is steeped. They in turn alter the very ways your DNA get’s expressed in your cells.”
NC: Amen, this is so good, but everything goes back to the Bible, doesn’t it?
Even just Proverbs 16:24: “Pleasant words are as an honeycomb, sweet to the soul, and health to the bones.”
You know, even the words we speak, words that are positive, words that are loving words, affirming words, and uplifting words, sweet words— oh, they are all affecting your Vagus nerve, aren’t they?
Anyway, look I know Pearl has got so much to say!
PB: I know, we’re going to come back, but I want to do the cliffhanger. You know, we’ve probably said it’s probably a big Wow for me understanding this. It might be a big Wow for you realizing that “What? I can use love to stimulate my Vagus nerve?”
That was huge but then I got this download and we’re going to talk about it next session. Its mind blowing.
NC: We’ll keep it for our next session! You’ve got to come back for our next session next week because I know already you are hanging on.
Let’s just pray:
“Father, We thank You so much, Lord, for all that You show us. We thank You, Lord, that the very foundation of what we’re talking about is in Your Word and it’s who we are. It’s how You created us to be. Lord, if we are walking with You it’s really how we will naturally want to walk.
“Lord we pray that You would set us free from all of our bondages and hang-ups that hold us back and help us to learn to walk more freely in love, loving our husbands, loving our children, and having that spirit of love wherever we go. In the name of Jesus. Amen.”