PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | Episode 25 – THE AWE AND WONDER OF LIFE IN THE WOMB, Part 2 from Psalm 139:13-18
Episode 25: THE AWE AND WONDER OF LIFE IN THE WOMB, Part 2 from Psalm 139:13-18
FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS w/ Nancy Campbell
Rocky: Welcome to the podcast, FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS w/ Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.
Nancy: Hello ladies. Today we continue our series from Psalm 139 talking about the wondrous, awesome, amazing creation of the baby in the womb. We are still in verse 13, and we are up to this latter part. “Thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb.” We talked last time how God covers the baby and defends the baby. That word cover means “to cover,” but it also means “to defend.” We talked about how God is the defender of the baby in the womb. Because He is, so should we. We should be defenders of the baby in the womb.
Since I talked to you last time, we were able to go to this current movie, “Gosnell: The Trial of America’s Biggest Serial Killer.” I have to tell you, it was a powerful movie. I think it will be gone from the theatres by the time you are listening to me today. But when it comes out on DVD, please get a hold of it. I do believe that it is a movie that everyone in the nation should see. Of course, Hollywood doesn’t want people to see this movie, and the liberals do not want people to see this movie because it exposes abortion in a most powerful way. It’s a movie that young people can watch. It doesn’t show gruesome details of aborted babies, but the way they get the message across is so powerful.
It’s a true story of Kermit Gosnell who was an abortionist, a baby killer, for over 30 years. In fact, throughout his 30 years, there were so many complaints that were given to the state government, but they would not do anything about it. They would not touch it because it was abortion, and they wouldn’t touch it, so he just kept on killing babies. He not only killed them in the womb, but he killed them out of the womb. Many babies were born alive, so he would snip their spinal cord and leave them for dead. There was more than one mother who also died through his abortions.
It all happened through a drug raid. When the police went to his place, nobody could believe it; it was filthy. It was terrible. He had young people, even a 15-year-old, not trained, giving anesthesia, and it was so bad.
To me, I think one of the powerful parts of the movie was during the court case. A big part of it was a court case, which actually happened. During the court case, they had an abortionist who got up and was interrogated and asked how she did her abortions. This woman was so sophisticated and so beautiful-looking and answered with such lovely answers.
“How many abortions have you performed?”
“Oh, 30, 000,” as though that was a wonderful answer, as though that was just getting up each morning and eating your breakfast, to kill 30, 000 babies! As she answered how she did it, she made it sound so sophisticated. Her clinic was so clean; it wasn’t like this Dr. Gosnell. No, she was doing it perfectly.
But then the questions kept coming, and he said, “Well, what if a baby planned for abortion was born?” And she said, ‘Well, we don’t allow that to happen.”
But he said, “If it did.” She said, “Well, we have comfort care.” The interrogator said, ‘Well, please describe comfort care.” She said, “Well, we wrap them in a nice warm blanket, and we leave them.” In other words, they leave them to die! They don’t try to keep them alive. These babies, many who are born alive, who were planned to be aborted, many the same age that are able to be kept alive today. But no, they are left to die. It exposed.
It was amazing because although Dr. Kermit Gosnell was doing it in filthy conditions and when the baby was born alive, he would snip the spinal cord. No, she didn’t do anything like that. No, she was applying “comfort care.” It was the same thing—they were left to die. It was killing babies.
Dr Gosnell was put in prison; this lady, because she does it in a clean clinic, is still performing abortions every day. She should be in jail too. What about these members of government who would not do a thing? They would not touch abortion. They just allowed it to happen. This is what is going on in our nation. Do get the DVD when it comes out.
The movie, “The Death of a Nation,” which I went to see two times. I wonder if you ever saw it when it was in the theatres. It’s now on DVD. You can get it. Go to the internet and you can order it, “The Death of a Nation.” It’s also a very, very powerful movie. Another one that everyone in this nation should see. It’s a pity not everyone saw it before these midterm elections. It’s still a movie you need to get your young people to see. It shows the history of what has been happening in our country and how it is affecting us today.
You would think I was a moviegoer, telling you about these movies. No, I’m not. I rarely go to a movie, but when a movie comes out that is bringing a message, that is speaking a powerful message to the nation, I like to go. I like to support it. I think if we stay home from these kinds of movies, we are being silent; we are hiding in our caves. And we need to get out and support the message. Amen!
Let’s move on here. “Thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb.” Where is all this happening? It’s happening in the womb. The womb is a very powerful place, precious mother. And you, you are a womb-man. There only two types of people in this world—a man without a womb which is a male. And a man with a womb who is a female.
The 1828 Webster’s Dictionary describes a woman as two words, “womb and man.” Do you have my book, “The Power of Motherhood?” If you don’t, I would encourage you to get a hold of it. This is a manual for mothers, for you as a mother. It tells you all that God says about you as a mother. It’s filled with Scriptures. You’re getting the truth. You’re finding out what God says, not what our liberal society says.
In “The Power of Motherhood,” I have a chapter called “Mothers are ‘Womb Men.’” In this chapter, I gave you 18 different points about the womb, and they are all powerful. You’ve got to get the book just for this chapter, let alone the rest of the book. Go to my website aboverubies.org, and you can order it from there. It will be such a blessing to you. Here is the link: http://bit.ly/PowerOfMotherhoodUS
I start off this chapter, “God unequivocally pronounces that our womb and breasts are blessings.” That is found in Genesis 49:25 where it talks about the blessings of the breasts and the blessings of the womb. Notice it’s plural. It doesn’t just say blessing, it says blessings. With an “S” on it. God says that the womb is not only a blessing, but there are loads of blessings. The womb is a blessing to us as women. The womb and the breasts are blessings not only to us but to the whole world, for without them, mankind would come to a screeching halt.
One of the meanings of womb is “a place where something originates and develops.” The womb is the originator of life. The womb is the beginning and the continuing of the generations, the origin of dynasties to come and also the filling of eternity. Every precious life that is conceived in the womb is an eternal soul who will live forever. It is in the womb that all this is happening.
In Jeremiah 1:5, it says these words. God is speaking to Jeremiah: “Before I formed thee in the womb, I knew thee.” God knew us, dear precious mothers, and He knew each one of our precious children before they were even formed in the womb. How does that equate with abortion? How can we kill a life that God knew even before it was conceived, that God is involved in creating in the womb? “Before I formed thee in the womb, I knew thee. Before thou camest forth out of the womb, I sanctified thee. And I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.”
Not only is God creating a baby in the womb, a baby that He already knows because God is Omniscient. He knows this life before the foundation of the world. Now He’s creating this baby in the womb. And He also says: “and I sanctified you.” That word means “to be set apart as a holy vessel, to be purified, dedicated, consecrated.” God wants every precious baby to be set apart for Him and for His purposes. Destiny begins in the womb. God is putting destiny over each child in the womb.
When He was speaking to Jeremiah, He said: “I ordained you to be a prophet to the nations.” The children we have may not be prophets to the nations, but they have a destiny that God has planned for them. And God puts that destiny upon them even in the womb. That word “ordained” in the Hebrew actually means “a gift.” God said: “I am giving you, Jeremiah, as a gift to the nations to do and fulfill my work.”
Every precious baby that God is creating, ordaining, sanctifying in the womb, He gives not only as a gift to us but a gift to the world. They come forth with destiny on them. Now, not all are going to fulfill their destiny, which is very sad. But when a baby is brought into a godly home, we pray over them, teach them the Word, we train them, we are helping to prepare them for their destiny—that specific task that God has put upon our children to function. Dr. Mike Bagwell calls this Scripture, he says it is “prenatal ordination.” I like that. Your baby is ordained, even in the womb.
Sometime back, I asked our Above Rubies’ readers if they would like to share the different names they like to call their womb, and I received back over 38 different names. I won’t read them all to you but a few of them.
One lady said they called it a “woman’s holy of holies.” Also “a baby’s first home,” “a baby’s sanctuary,” “the birthplace of destiny,” “the cradle of the unborn,” “God’s blessing place,” God’s secluded place,” “a home of compassion,” “a home of protection,” “a home of shelter,” “a home of blessing,” “a home of life,” “a miracle haven,” “a nesting place,” “the palace of a child” (that’s actually the Chinese meaning of the word womb), “a set apart sanctuary,” “a secret place,” “a sacred place.” Those are just a few of the names that people call the womb, but God has names;
He uses four different words for womb in the Bible. (Four Hebrew words). They all have a very similar meanings, meaning “to fondle, nurture a babe in the womb.” One wonderful word that I love is the word racham. This word comes from a root word “to fondle,” and it means “to cherish a babe in the womb, to love deeply, to be compassionate, to show tender mercy and pity.”
The amazing thing is, ladies, that this Hebrew word is used interchangeably in the Bible. Sometimes it’s used for the physical womb of a woman, other times it’s used to speak of God’s tender mercies, His pity, His long-suffering toward us, because both have the same meaning. The womb, the physical womb, comes from God’s heart.
Listen to a word you may not have a heard before. It comes from the very “wombness” of God. Yes, there is such a word, the “wombness.” The wombness describes God’s compassion and His tender mercies. When He created the womb, He also created the hormones that come from the womb. There comes forth mercy and compassion from the womb. Our womb releases mercy, it releases compassion. The word is used interchangeably. Isn’t that powerful that when we embrace our womb, even our physical womb, that we are actually revealing God’s tender mercies and God’s compassionate heart? It is so wonderful.
It’s in this precious place, in this womb, that God is creating this little baby. Let’s go on to point No. 3: God fearfully creates us.
Verse 14 says: “I will praise thee for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.” The word (fearfully) in the Hebrew means, “fearfully, honorably, astonishingly.” Let’s read some other Scriptures where this same word is used.
Nehemiah 9:32: “Now, therefore, our God, the great and mighty and the terrible God.” It is the same word as fearfully. Some translations use the word “and the fearful God.”
Psalm 99:3: “Let them praise thy great and terrible name (or thy fearful name), for it is holy.”
Malachi 4:5 talks about how God would send the anointing of Elijah to turn the hearts of the fathers, including the mothers, back to their children. And the children back to their fathers “before the coming of the great and dreadful day (the fearful day) of the Lord.”
A lot of translations use the word “awesome.” That’s a great word. The only problem is that today we use the word awesome so lightly, don’t we? Even some little thing happening, we say, “Oh, that’s awesome.” We’re not really getting the true meaning of it being an awful wonder; it’s fearful because of its amazingness. This is the description God gives of the way He is creating this baby.
And the psalmist says: “I will praise thee.” When we understand what God is doing in the womb. It causes us to praise Him. We should praise Him that He created us. We should praise Him for every precious child that He has given us. Do you have a baby growing in your womb at this moment? Praise Him because He is fearfully and wondrously and awesomely creating your precious baby.
No. 4; God uniquely creates us.
We are still in this one scripture, verse 14. “I will praise thee for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.” Here’s another description. So many adjectives. Isn’t it amazing, ladies? As I have shared with you before, God’s Word uses so many adjectives to describe what He’s doing. When we look them up in the Hebrew, we find even more adjectives to describe the one word that God uses.
This word is palah. The meaning is a little different to the word wonderful. It means, “to be distinguished, to put a difference between, to separate, to set apart, to sever, to show marvelous.” When I read that, I was quite amazed. What is God saying here? This is something very powerful. Before we talk about it, let’s look at some other Scriptures where the same word is used.
Exodus 8:22, this is in the context of when God was bringing the plagues upon Egypt. He says: “I will sever in that day, the land of Goshen in which my people live, that no swarms of flies should be there.” He put swarms of flies over the Egyptians, but He severed His own people that they wouldn’t get them. That’s a powerful word, severed, isn’t it? That’s the word that is used, though it’s the word “wonderful” in our passage.
Exodus 9:7: “And the Lord shall sever between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of Egypt, and there shall nothing die of all that is the children of Israel.”
Exodus 11:7, talking about the plague of the death of the firstborn: “That ye may know that the Lord doth put a difference.” That’s how its translated here, “put a difference” between the Egyptians and Israel. Ladies, we have got to look at this very carefully.
This talks about five different areas of distinguishing. First of all:
- The gender of the baby is determined at the moment of fertilization.
God is hovering over the baby because the Bible calls conception a visitation of God. Did you know that? That is so amazing. When you conceived, you were “visited” by God. In Genesis 21:1, it’s talking about Sarah, and it says: “The Lord visited Sarah, as He had said, and she conceived.”
There’s another Scripture talking about Hannah. 1 Samuel 2:21: “And the Lord visited Hannah so that she conceived.” She could not conceive without God visiting her. It’s a God moment, precious ladies, a God moment! And life begins at conception. Because when God comes, there is life. At that moment, God distinguishes between male and female. Right at the very beginning of conception, this new child will be male or female. Period. Amen. Nothing to be added.
We are living in a society where the roles, the genders of male and female are being blurred. The gay agenda is seeking to bring in the total blurring of the sexes. Colin and I were speaking at an Above Rubies Family Retreat this last weekend. At our family retreat, we had two teachers in our midst. Both of these men, who were teachers in state schools (of course they homeschool their own children), but this was their career.
One of these high school teachers got up, and he shared with us. He was asking for prayer. He said, “Please pray for me.” He said, “In the school where I am teaching, and this is indicative of all schools across the nation, we are no longer allowed to use the personal pronouns of ‘she’ and ‘he.’ They will not allow it in our school.”
He said, “I have 14-years-olds in my class who are in the process of changing their gender.” He said, “We are encouraged to clap these children and tell them how great they are.” This is what is happening and being promoted in our state schools today. He said, “I am facing this, please pray for me.” He said, “It is worse in our colleges.”
I do not think Christian parents are fully aware of what is going on because this didn’t use to go on. This is something that is happening and is now escalating in our nation. We have to be aware of what is happening. How can we send our children into these places that are now dens of iniquity? They are the total opposite of everything that is God and of His creation. We have to stand strong on this, precious ladies.
God distinguishes. He is the distinguisher. That is the meaning of this word. When He says this word of womb, He creates us in the womb, wonderfully made, it’s the word “distinguished.” God wondrously separates male or female and He determines, because this child is determined before the foundation of the world to be either male or female. There is no blur. God distinguishes. He puts a difference. He severs. So let’s get it straight. Amen?
- God intricately separates and distinguishes each part of the body as He creates it.
He is a very distinguishing, meticulous God.
- God creates the baby separate from the mother.
A baby is not an extension of the mother. A baby is a complete, different person growing in the womb. Even the blood type of the mother and baby are kept separate in the womb. The mother’s blood type is often different to her baby. The genetic code of the mother is distinctly different from the mother. Every member and part of a mother’s body has the same genetic code but not the baby growing inside of her. He or she has his or her own genetic code. The baby has separate circulatory, nervous, and endocrine systems than the mother and half the time, the baby is a different sex than the mother.
We have to know these facts because this also hits the abortion question. How can we murder a baby, a life, that is totally distinguished, separate, different than the mother? This is not some appendage of the mother. No, she has no right. They talk about, “I have the rights over my body.” No, she does not have the right to kill another person. This is a separate entity. Once again, we have to get our facts straight.
I’d like to read you this quote. This is from a New Zealand professor. Professor A.W. Liley who is known as the Father of Fetology. He comes from New Zealand, as I mentioned. That’s my country originally, although I am now a U.S. citizen.
He says; “Biologically, at no stage, can we subscribe to the view that the fetus” (I like to call it the baby) “is a near appendage to the mother. It is the embryo who stops his mother’s periods, makes her womb habitable, by developing a placenta and a protective capsule of fluid for himself. He regulates his own amniotic fluid volume. And although women speak of their water breaking or their membranes rupturing, these structures belong to the baby. And finally, it is the baby, not the mother, who decides when labor should be initiated.”
We heard the other day of a homicide case in Alabama where a man killed a pregnant woman. The judge sentenced him with double murder because he killed two people. And that was law. I was checking this out. In fact, I have in my hand right here: “State Laws on Fetal Homicide and Penalty Enhancement for Crimes Against Pregnant Women.” Now, it is amazing to read here on this state legislature. You can go to the internet and check it out. It says there are 38 states who have fetal homicide laws. That means, if you kill a pregnant woman, you are killing two people. I just noticed there are 38 states. I copied from one or two.
In Arizona, it says, “The unborn child is treated like a minor under 12 years of age.” An unborn child is going to be treated as though he was a child, right up to 12 years of age. Yet, it goes onto say, they won’t be committed to that during a legal abortion. This is the hypocrisy; it is so amazing.
California, liberal California, defines murder as “the unlawful killing of a human being or fetus” (fetus is the baby in the womb) “with malice or forethought.” Now, precious mothers, abortion, killing a fetus, an unborn baby that God is creating in the womb, you can’t kill a baby without malice, and they define this as murder, yet they allow abortion.
Texas defines an individual as “a human being who is alive, including an unborn child at every stage of gestation from fertilization until birth.” Did you hear that? “From fertilization until birth,” meaning that if a baby is killed because the mother is killed, and the baby is from fertilization until birth, it’s a fetal homicide, a double murder. Yet, these same laws which are for these 38 states say that it is not a crime to abort (that means a murder) that child under the term abortion. Have you ever heard of anything so ludicrous?
We have all these state laws and praise the Lord that 38 states have these laws. Thank you, Father. Yet these same states state in these laws that it is not a crime if it is an abortion, if the mother determines to kill the baby. It’s legal for the mother to kill the baby, but it is not legal for someone else to kill the baby.
We have hypocritical laws, but isn’t it amazing that these state laws show that this is a baby in the womb? It’s pretty amazing. This baby is a separate, separate, separate entity.
I would love you to do this, ladies. Go on to the internet and go to this link, www.numberofabortions.com
Did you get that? www.numberofabortions.com
You need to check it periodically. I will go to it every now and then and look, and it’s an abortion clock. It has 12 different categories, and it is showing you, while you look at it, the number of abortions that are happening, the number of abortions that are happening through Planned Parenthood, the number of abortions that are taking place in the U.S., the number of abortions that are taking place worldwide.
When I checked it today at 12 o’clock, it showed that, since Roe vs. Wade, 60,843,151 babies have been murdered in the womb. How do we stand before God as a nation? Precious wives and mothers, do you grieve like I do? Do you cry out for the mercy of God as I do? At 12 o’clock, Planned Parenthood, only just this year, has murdered 290,797,000.3 babies, getting up to 300,00 which it will most likely make by the end of the year. Because as you’re watching, you see the clock going on and adding the numbers. Go to it and check for yourself.
- God creates the conscience which distinguishes between good and evil right there in the womb.
We read at the very beginning how God was not only creating the physical part of the baby, but He’s creating the inner part, the inner workings, the conscience. Yet, God is creating that in the womb, and a baby comes forth with a God-consciousness. And that consciousness knows; its got an understanding of what is good and what is evil.
In a godly home, the conscience can be fostered and made sharp. In an ungodly home, that conscience can be dampened, and sometimes, it becomes seared. We see that happening in so many of our liberal politicians today, who are quite happy for babies to be aborted the very day before they are born. Their conscious’ have been seared.
- God distinguishes the uniqueness of each individual in the womb.
This is amazing, ladies. God creates every person unique, different, distinct from every other person in the whole world. It is so amazing. I love the words of Mary after she conceived. And she praised the Lord and said: “He that is mighty hath done to me GREAT things; and holy is His name.” That word “great” is megaleios meaning “magnificent, wonderful.” It comes from the word megas, where we get our word “mega,” meaning “large, great.”
Of course, it was true that Mary was blessed beyond any other mother in the world to bring forth, to nourish the Son of God in her womb, and to bring Him forth into this world. Yet, in a lesser but still powerful way, dear mother, God does great things through every baby that is conceived in a mother’s womb, in your womb.
Every new baby is born in the image of God. Each one is a fresh revelation of God to the world. Each one of your precious babies has unique gifts and abilities given specifically by God. Think of all the amazing things that have happened, are happening, and will happen in this world, the remarkable inventions, the amazing feats, both intellectually and physically. These astonishing advancements which are happening every day and the brilliant discoveries. None of this ever happens on its own. Every single one happens through a person, an individual, and that person came through a womb. Without the womb, nothing happens in this world. It all comes to a halt. Did you get that, ladies?
You have a womb given to you by God. Without the womb, nothing happens in this world. All the great things that take place in the world happen because of a mother’s womb. A unique, special individual comes forth from the womb to fulfill a task, to do things that no has ever done before. God privileges you with the gift of a womb, a sanctuary from where God will bring forth great things to fulfill His purposes.
I love that quote by Frank Boreham. He says, “We fancy that God can only manage His world by battalions abroad when, all the while He is doing it by beautiful babies at home. When a wrong wants righting, or a truth wants preaching, or a continent wants opening, God sends a baby into the world to do it. That is why, long, long ago, a babe was born in Bethlehem.”
In Luke 2:12, do you remember the angel speaking to the shepherds? “And he said to them: “And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, ling in a manger.” I beg your pardon. The sign? This is going to be the sign of this great thing happening in the world? What is this sign? What is it? Who is this person that will save us from the Romans? A baby. Go and look for a baby!
Lovely mothers, whenever God wants to do something, all we have to do is look for a baby. All we have to do is open our womb for God to visit us and give us conception when it’s His time, when it’s His plan. That’s why the greatest thing that we can do is be yielded to the sovereignty of God. Not us planning it. No, letting God plan it to bring forth His baby at the right time to fulfill the plans and purposes that He has.
We go back to the womb. This whole world will stop without the womb, and God makes each one distinct, separate, special, unique. Isn’t that amazing? Now we understand what that word means, that I was created to be distinguished, special, different, like nobody else. If you have a little baby in your womb, dear mother, there has never been a baby, a person, like this in the history of the world, and there will never, ever be another being like this baby that God is creating in your womb in the future of this world. Not one is the same. That’s how awesome, fearful, and incredible God is in creating the baby in the womb. Everyone is different. Only God can do this. He doesn’t make clones. He makes every one special and new. Are you praising the Lord with me today?
Let’s pray, shall we?
“Dearest Father in Heaven, we come to You in the precious, lovely name of Jesus, thanking You that You are our God, our Creator, and You create each new baby so fearfully, wonderfully, distinguished, unique, separate, amazing in the womb. You’re not only creating the physical body, You’re creating the inner being of this little child. We thank you, Lord God, how you create this baby separate. This is a very separate, new human being from even our own body. Lord, although we are privileged to carry a baby in our own womb, it’s a separate, living human being.
God, we thank You for Your truth, Lord. Help us to be those who walk in Your truth, who embrace Your truth, speak Your truth to our children and to this world. That we will be voices in this world for You and for God.
Father, I pray for every precious mother who is pregnant today listening. Father, I pray for Your blessing upon their womb, for Your anointing as You hover over this womb and create this precious little baby. Oh God, we thank You for Your presence as this baby is being created. We thank you, Lord. I pray for every life in the womb that each baby, Lord, that this precious baby of this precious mother will be separated and set-apart for Your holy purposes, for Your destiny that You have for them. The ordination, this prenatal ordination, that You have over them in the womb, oh God, that they will come forth to fulfill this ordination in the precious name of Jesus.
Bless the mothers, strengthen them today, Lord, as they carry this baby. As each mother carries her baby in the womb, strengthen her. Fill her with joy, the joy of what You are doing in her, Lord. The joy of bringing forth an eternal soul. Help her to be a testimony of a joyful mother wherever she goes. I pray that You will bless her when she gives birth, and Lord, that You will come with Your presence, and You will bring forth this baby powerfully, wonderfully, safely, oh God, into this world. I ask it in the name of Jesus.
Bless their families, bless their husbands, and bless their homes. I speak blessings over every mother and wife and child and every home. In Jesus name, Amen.