PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 341: MORE IS EASIER
LIFE TO THE FULL w/ Nancy Campbell
EPISODE 341: MORE IS EASIER
Happy Christmas and Happy Hannukah! Many mothers confess that motherhood is easier with a larger family than with a smaller family. Is this true? Is it possible? Allison Hartman joins me today as we discuss this subject and the negative objections.
Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to The Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.
Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies. Well, today, I’m recording this podcast the day after Thanksgiving. But you're not getting this podcast until the day before Christmas. So, I’ve got to say, “Happy Christmas” to you all, and “Happy Hannukah!” Now, in our home, we celebrate both, so we’ll be doing both together this year.
Of course, when we celebrate Christmas, we’re not celebrating all the tinsel and Santa Claus. We’re really just celebrating with family, and remembering this time when Jesus was conceived in the womb. He most probably wasn’t born at this time of the year. That would be more at the time of the Feast of Tabernacles. We do love to celebrate Hannukah. It’s such a wonderful celebration.
Yesterday we celebrated Thanksgiving, and I have with me today again Allison Hartman. I can’t think how many podcasts we’ve done together now, Allison. Even though they live down in Pensacola, the whole family comes up every year for Thanksgiving. They started before they were part of the family, but now they are part of the family, because two of Allison’s sons are married to . . .
Allison: Daughters.
Nancy: Daughters. Got to get it the right way around! They are married to two of Serene Allison’s sons (another Allison), but my daughter. The amazing thing is, at the moment, three of Serene’s sons are all having babies. Their wives are all pregnant.
Arden and Esther, which is a miracle baby, and Halle and Cedar with their second baby. And now, Vision and Eden with their first baby. So wonderful! We’re really family now. Of course, there’s a lot more children in the family. You never know what’s going to happen yet.
Allison: That’s right! That’s right.
Nancy: We had such a glorious Thanksgiving yesterday, didn’t we?
Allison: It was so wonderful!
Nancy: The last two Thanksgivings we had over at the wedding barn. But everybody was saying, “Oh, Nana, it’s just not quite the same as being here at your place! Do you think we can come back?” We decided we’d squash in! So, we squashed in, about 90-plus people for a sit-down meal. How we did it, I don’t know, but we did it! It was so precious.
We always end our great big feast . . . Can you believe how much food we had? Everybody took food home. We’ll all eat for the next three days! We’ll have another Thanksgiving meal tonight, won’t we?
But it was so great. We always have speeches, giving toasts to people we love or remember. There’s something so wonderful about that. To me, to just have a meal, and all just go your merry way, there’s not so much meaning to it. But when we can get up and share about people, and toast the different ones, it’s so much more meaningful, isn’t it?
Allison: It’s so special.
Nancy: Any comments you've got?
Allison: Oh, it was just the most perfect day! It was such a fun day, just seeing all the different families come from all walks of life. The girls from Australia who came over for the first time ever to America, that was fun meeting them. Then the games that we played. Oh, the egg toss was incredible!
Nancy: Oh, wasn’t it? And Allison’s sons were the ones who were still going!
Allison: 2024 champions!
Nancy: I couldn’t believe it! How that egg survived! They were still throwing it and catching it, for how far apart were they by this time? Because every throw, you go further and further apart.
Allison: Oh, but it was so fun, watching! You mainly think of an egg toss as little children, but no, these were grown adults! Married couples, my teenage boys; they were extremely competitive. They loved it.
Nancy: Oh yes, and tug-of-war! Can you believe how all those young sons actually won against those big tough men who all work out, and they’ve got all these huge muscles?
Allison: I know! And then the dads called for a rematch, and they got beaten again!
Nancy: I cannot even believe it! [laughter] It was so glorious!
But today there was something I thought we could discuss together. A while back, on my Facebook, I posted a little post. This was actually very popular. I think it got over a thousand likes. But it had some negative comments too. Let me read you what I posted, and for fun, we’ll look at the negative comments and see, well, why did people say this?
This is what I wrote.
I was talking to a mother, expecting her tenth baby. She shared with me that on a recent Sunday morning at church how some of the young mothers asked her how she survived with so many children! What did she reply? “Oh, more is easier!”
“Truly?” they gasped in surprise.
She then shared with them her testimony of that very morning. “I hadn’t slept well last night, and because I’m pregnant again, I slept in a little later. When I got up, I noticed my 13-year-old daughter preparing breakfast, and getting all the clothes ready for the other children to wear to church. Another daughter was looking after the baby. All was well. So, I leisurely took a shower and then spent some time reading the Word. When I came out to the kitchen, breakfast was waiting on the table, and we all sat down together.”
Then I commented, “Oh, it is so true that when you have many children, they’re not all little toddlers. Each child grows every year, and each child you train to take a little more responsibility, to do their specific task.
Each time a new baby comes along, there are more and more arms wanting to hold the baby and play with him. There are more helpers to help with meals and keep the home running smoothly. I think the most overwhelming time of motherhood is when you have your first two or three children. You’ve got no helpers.
But as more children come along, you have more and more helpers. Yes, it's true—more noise, but also more love, more cuddles, more joy and laughter, more entertainment, more playmates for your children, more excitement, and more blessings! Who wouldn’t want more children?”
Well, most people agreed, and loved it. But there were a few negatives. I thought maybe we should discuss them and see why they thought like that.
One lady said, “It’s not fair to make your daughters raise your children! It’s just not. I know so many women who were in this situation who don’t even want to be moms because they spent their childhood raising babies.”
I know you’ll want to comment. but I’ll just say some little thing here. That post was not about the children raising the babies. We, of course, as mothers, have that total responsibility, but that doesn’t negate our children being involved and helping. I can’t help but wonder . . . if children, unless there was some wrong attitude in the home where they were made to do this, and they resented it. But I find, Allison, when the families around here, and I even see it in your family, there’s no “You must watch over the baby! You must go and do this, or you must . . .” They want to do these things! They’re trained, little by little, how to run a household, which every child should be. But this inherent thing of children, they want to hold the baby, they want to look after the baby. If that’s not inherent, there’s something weird. What do you say?
Allison: Yes, I think it’s really a mindset. Of course, it’s our world, and it’s the way we were raised. Very possibly, this mother may have been forced to do things when she was a child, and her mom made it to where it was almost a punishment. We’ve looked at it so differently. Our children fight over wanting to take care of the children.
Today, this morning, you and I were talking to three of my girls. We asked them all, the little girls, “If you had a choice between going outside to play, or going to the beach, or going and doing something really fun, or watching children, what you choose?” We didn’t prompt them. They all said, “Oh, we would much rather watch the babies!”
In their minds, it’s a privilege, it’s a fun thing. It’s not a job. It’s not a burden. It’s really just a mindset. I think it’s our job as a parent, it’s not what we say, it’s how we say it.
Nancy: Exactly! I think if, as you mentioned, as a punishment, “You have got to watch over this baby!” No! “Do you want to watch over little darling Susie while Mommy’s doing this?” Oh, goodness me! They run to it. Of course, we had little Ruthie there. Ruthie lives next door to us. Ruthie is the youngest in her family. She has no little babies! All her friends have got babies all around. But Ruthie . . .
Allison: She will grab babies!
Nancy: That’s true. She is the mother of the Hilltop. Oh, she is unbelievable! Her whole life is just to hold babies! In fact, Cherish, that’s one of Serene’s daughters, has got two little ones. Ruthie goes over to her about twice a week just to hold the babies, play with them, so Cherish can get a few things done.
Every family function, and church function, there is Ruthie. She’s always got a baby in her arms! It’s not even her own baby. It’s someone else’s baby. And they all love to go to her. I’ll say, “OK, come and see Nana.” They don’t want to go to me! They want to go to Ruthie! [laughter]
Allison: Right, right. Think about the one toy we always buy a little girl. A baby doll.
Nancy: A baby doll!
Allison: Why wouldn’t that be the best thing that could play with?
Nancy: They’d rather have real babies. That’s what I find. After church, and then fellowship meal, the little girls are all wanting to play “babies.” They’ve all got a real baby if they could get one. If there’s not enough real babies, then they go and they get baby dolls. Often, I’m taking pictures of them. Some have the real baby, and some have baby dolls (they’ve got the second best)! They all want real babies!
Allison: I know. I know. There’s another comment that I read about a mom saying something about “That’s not their job. It’s my job, as a mother, to take care of my children.” Yes, what you said earlier, it’s not our job to let our children raise our children.
But when you're taking all those, let’s call them “jobs,” even though “jobs” normally is a negative word. “Privileges” is more of a positive word, so really, again it’s all how we say it. “Hey, will you watch the baby? Will you go and do the job of cleaning up the kitchen and then bathing the baby?” If you say it like that, then it’s a negative. “You’re being punished. You go get . . .”
When I had babies, even my teenage boys would fight over who got to change the baby’s diaper! That’s unheard of! They would say, “If I get my chores done first, can I go?” So, taking care of children shouldn’t be considered a chore. Scrubbing a toilet, ok, that’s a chore. That’s not a fun job. Nobody loves scrubbing the toilet. But taking care of a household, making food for your siblings, helping a sibling with school. That’s why so many mothers don’t enjoy mothering, because they’re trying to do it all by themselves. They think it’s their job.
But we were talking earlier, if it’s my job as a mother to do all the dishes, well then, surely all those dishes should be mine. But they’re not. All the laundry, I guess, is all just Mother’s, who was saying, “It’s my job. I can’t let my daughters do the laundry, or let me sleep in, or make the food.” Why wouldn’t you want them to?
Again, it’s the way we look at it. If you're not allowing them to make . . . You know, when I went to college, I didn’t even know how to make rice. I didn’t know how to start a laundry, a washing machine because I was never taught. My mom would hire a maid.
I’m sure she thought she was doing the best thing, but really, you’ve heard me talk about raising adults. This mother who was saying, “Oh, it’s not my children’s job!” Well, what are you raising? Are you raising a bunch of children or are you raising adults? You want them to start their home life as a mother being able to run a household.
The girls that we talked to today, they’re what? Eleven, eight, twelve, and thirteen. Our four little girls that we were talking to.
Nancy: And you were saying to me, that Emily Kate, she’s just turned 13, that if you went away for a week, she could handle the whole household.
Allison: Absolutely. Don’t hear what we’re not saying. I wouldn’t leave her for a week! Thankfully, I have older children that I can leave. But if I were to leave her, not only would she survive, she would thrive. She would do an excellent job.
Sometimes I’ll go into my room. We own a family business, so a lot of times, I’m working in my room. I’m listening, and it’s so interesting because they’re repeating things I would say. They’re practicing. They’re playing Mom and Dad. They’re playing parents. They’re playing nursing mothers. Why wouldn’t we want our children to not just pretend that they . . . That’s the funnest thing to do as a child, is pretend you’re this, or you're that!
Nancy: When they play, what do they play? They play mommies and daddies. That’s their favorite game! If they can be allowed to really do it, in fact, as children they’re getting older. Often children feel, oh, they’re just having to do it for Mom. But when they have the responsibility, and feel, “I’m in charge,” whoo, they will just thrive.
Allison: When I was a child, I loved this little toy, it was called “Easy Bake.” It was this little pretend oven that you would go and put this little, tiny piece of cake in. It would take about 15 minutes, and it would pop out, and it was this tiny little cake. I loved it, but how much more fun did our girls have Wednesday when they went over, and they helped Eden make Thanksgiving for hundreds of people? And they really did.
I went over there and watched them. I couldn’t believe it. Eden, my daughter, was making four turkeys. She made all the sides for three meals because she wanted to have leftovers. But she didn’t do it by herself. She had the 11-year-old working, she had the 13-year-old working, and she was giving them big-girl jobs. They were loving it!
They didn’t want to go shopping. They didn’t want to go play outside. They wanted to be right there learning, and the reason Eden knows how to do all this is because I let her. I let her! “Here’s your kitchen. Have fun!” I’ve never, ever, ever had my girls complain about taking care of children, cleaning the house, fixing food. Those are things they love to do.
Nancy: Yes, because it’s real life. Of course, sometimes there are things in life that are duty, but duty is very much part of life. If children don’t realize that when they’re young, that life is duty, that’s why there are so many women coming to motherhood who have never been trained. They have never been prepared for it. It’s a big thing.
But these girls, even as your girls who are now married just flow into it, because they’ve let their mind set. Now all these little girls, all they think about is being moms and running a household. It’s their lifestyle. But even the boys, like last time you were here, and this time. Ethan, who is how old now?
Allison: Eighteen.
Nancy: Eighteen. I can’t believe how handsome he’s getting! Whoo! But this 18-year-old boy, the day before Thanksgiving, spent the whole day totally cleaning, not just cleaning, but what would you call it? Deep cleaning and shining every little thing in my kitchen. It’s so amazing.
Allison: And it was his idea!
Nancy: And he’s not some wimpy boy!
Allison: No!
Nancy: He is tough, and he is amazing!
Allison: Muscles, volleyball, actually.
Nancy: Oh yes! And then the next thing you see, he’s holding one of the little ones, and the baby. These are what a real man is like.
Allison: Absolutely!
Nancy: Oh, can you imagine what wonderful fathers they will be? I love going to our Above Rubies retreats where all the families come. You look around, and you see all these big, tall, tough teenage boys, and what do they do? They’re out playing volleyball, they’re doing this, and they’re doing that. But in a minute, they’re gravitating to the babies! They fight over them. Who’s going to hold them? It’s just so wonderful. That’s the real world!
And yet, we’re living in this world where many young men are being brought up in these one, two-child families. They have no idea of family or babies. They have no interest in them, and they’re not really prepared for family or for the real life of getting married and raising a family. It’s so sad that they’re being raised in an unreal world.
Allison: I mentioned to Eden this topic before we came here. She said, “It’s not just the one and two-children families. Even some of our friends who have a lot of children have this mindset that they don’t want to ask them to do things, because they don’t want them to . . . It’s not their fault that we had all these children.”
I’ve even had friends at these retreats that we put on, “I don’t want to ask them to not play with their friends. They need to go have fun. This is their time to have fun. I’ll stay back with the littles. I’ll do all the cooking.” I really don’t understand it because they are not doing a service to their children!
Nancy: That’s surprising.
Allison: If we are raising servants, then we need to let them think that serving can be fun. Serving is not a negative. It’s a positive. Jesus was the greatest Servant of all. We can’t let our children think, “Oh, Mom will do it all,” because we want you to have lots and lots of fun. Yes, we want them to have lots of fun. But there’s nothing wrong with having fun while serving.
People know when they come to our house, our house is a lot of fun. But I will put a broom in anyone’s hand. A second ago, you said something, and it made me remember to say, recently I’ve been saying, “As mommas, only do what only you can do.”
Yes, we have a huge responsibility, but there are certain things that only I can do. I want to be the one who teaches my children to read. I want to be the one who gets to tuck them in at night. I want to be the one to share the gospel with them for the first time. I’m the one who nurses them. There are certain things that I do. But then there are so many things that, as a mother, you are allowed, in my opinion, to allow your other children to help you with, so you give them that privilege.
Nancy: You’re growing up in a family where you're learning the most basic thing that Jesus exemplified, that of serving. If you're just raising, “Oh, they’ve got to have their little time to play,” well, you're raising them in the opposite way, to be self-seeking and self-pleasing. That is the biggest problem in most people’s lives— self. They haven’t even learned to put down self and serve others. But when it can become a habit in your life, well, it’s just so wonderful.
Allison: Look at the adults around us. Our world is full of absolutely self-centered people. We are constantly seeing people, young people specifically, that everything they do is for themselves. You wonder, is it because their mother said, “Oh, don’t do that. That’s my job. You go and do your school, and you go and do your fun. I will do it all for you.” Those children are learning. They’re paying attention.
Nancy: Actually, they’re going to be more put off motherhood, because they think, “Do I have to live that life where I’ve got to stay home and do everything?” But no, it’s family.
Allison: And my mother was miserable. She always had to do it all. She complained. Probably these mothers giving you negative comments, they’re probably complaining. But they think they’re doing it out of duty and it’s their job. But it’s everyone’s job.
We always say, “We are a team.” Daniel might be the head coach, and I’m the assistant coach, but we’re a team, and this is not an individual sport. It’s a team sport. We will never clean our house individually. We always clean it as a team, because you can get a lot more done. I probably get told five times a day, “I don’t know how you do it with 11 children.” My latest answer is, “I don’t know how you do it without 11 children!”
Nancy: Yes, exactly. And that’s what the original post was all about! More is easier. It’s the moms with many children who are able to do so much, because they have all these, as they get older, these older children who are helping, and taking on more responsibility.
The fact is, your children, there’s nothing they can’t do. They know how to run a household. I can remember going down to one of the retreats and all the food you had ordered did not arrive on time. You gave a list to Eden who was about 18 at the time. “OK, go to Costco and get the food for . . .”
Allison: 800 people.
Nancy: 800 people.
Allison: For nine meals.
Nancy: Yes. And she had to work it out, get everything. Could you do that with your 18-year-old? Well, she could do it because she’d already been trained. She could already run the household so she could just do it bigger and bigger and bigger.
Allison: It’s amazing.
Nancy: The other thing is, “OK, well, I must let my children have their time.” Well, what are they usually doing with their time? They’re on social media, and what’s that doing for them? In fact, most children today, their heads are down, just looking at their phones.
That’s something I noticed. I think you noticed yesterday too. With this absolutely crowded place, no one was looking at iPhones. All the young people there, they were chatting and fellowshipping when they all went out together to do our tug-of-war.
Allison: We had about, what, 100 people, and probably the majority were young people. I didn’t see anybody on their cell phones, sitting in a corner by themselves, checking their feed, or checking their Instagram posts. They were all living life. They were all creating content for making those toasts.
Last night I saw a friend of mine’s Thanksgiving post. It was so sad, because she commented, “OK, let’s let the festivities begin at Thanksgiving!” And we had just had this day full of egg toss, tug-of-war, and fun. We did games; we had speeches. We had all this fun watching children. They played volleyball. I didn’t see anybody on a phone.
But her comment was, “Let’s let Thanksgiving begin,” and I could tell in the photo that most of her young teenagers were all on their phones. I thought, “Is that what Thanksgiving is all about anymore? Are we just living our normal lives?” Obviously, that was normal. She does all the cooking. They sit and watch football or be on their phones. There was nobody interacting.
Yeah, I think when we’re not filling their time with valuable things such as learning how to raise a family, again we’re not asking them to do what our job is. I don’t want to give away the things that only I can do. I want to do them.
Nancy: Here you are. We’re doing a podcast, and your little four-year-old’s still nursing! [laughter]
Allison: That’s right! That’s right. And she likes to be right near me. But everything we do with our children has to be intentional. This morning, we were talking. If we didn’t have all those activities yesterday, and you did not intentionally have plans for this; you have to think ahead. You had to tell us a few days in advance, “Don’t forget the tug-of-war rope.” Somebody had to buy those eggs. It takes planning.
I noticed, last night we started to do some worship music. But guess what? It wasn’t planned, was it? It was hard to keep it going. But when you have an intentional plan, I always say, “If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.” With your family, even if you don’t have 100 people coming over for a holiday, you can do fun games together. Young people love it. They love it. They will not be on their devices if you have fun things for them to do.
Nancy: Now, it seems that we have more older young people than little ones. But now, of course, we’ve got all our great-grandchildren. They’re all little babies and toddlers. But it’s not long, and they’re going to be grown, and we’ll start again.
Another one of our traditions at Thanksgiving was all our three-legged races, and our sack races. Oh, the children loved them so I can see you have your seasons. I can see that’s going to all start again now as our great-grandchildren are going to grow up into that phase.
Allison: I have to put a plug in, because so many people are probably listening going, “I don’t have 100 people to hang out with.” I never realized how important community is. Just this past weekend, we’ve all been praying for this little girl, Ellie Cate, who we’re all believing for a miracle. She’s had a life-threatening crazy fluke accident where she choked on a popcorn kernel. It went straight to her lungs.
I realized that community is so important. If you don’t have a community, then what do you always say? “You’ve got to make it happen.” Our Above Rubies Family Camp, which we have another one coming up in January. If you're listening to this, a day before Christmas, you're not too late, because we will fit you in. It’s going to start right after the New Year. But that is like you're intentionally saying, “I am going to go out and get a good community for my family.”
We talked about, and we may not have time to finish talking about it, but how important peers are for children. If their peers are looking at things, and they’re on their devices, well, guess what? Our children are going to want to do what their friends are doing, right? We’re the same way. You want to do what your friends are doing. If our children’s surrounding people, their peers, are on devices, that is what our children are going to do.
But the other direction, if our children’s friends are not on devices, it’s almost like they want to do. Right now, all these young guys, all of our young guys have flip phones. Old-fashioned, non-internet flip phones. Well, they think it’s really cool! They’re not flashing their newest iPhone that they can get on and do stuff that they shouldn’t. They’re flashing their flip phones they can do nothing on and they’re having fun laughing about it. I think it’s so important who you hang around.
Nancy: That’s another thing we have to make happen. Like my little saying I have to say all the time, “Things don’t just happen. You have to make them happen.” I found, when raising our children, that being determined and working it out, you will find families for your children that are like-minded, and that you're happy that they are with them.
Of course, that means being a hospitable home and having those families over for meals. Then it becomes reciprocal, and your children are being with families. That was one of the blessings of our children growing up, having friends that were of families who were like-minded. Now, of course, it’s the same with our grandchildren, and now with your children.
It’s a very wonderful thing. I think I’ve shared with you before, but I do believe so much in the Scripture in Proverbs 13:20: “He that walks with wise men will be wise. But a companion of fools will be destroyed.” You see so many young people today who are hanging out with young people who have the same kind of mindset. They’re on the iPhones all the time, and they have no vision, really, of where they are going. If you hang out with them, well, you're going to be lost, really.
Allison: I was talking to you earlier today. I think we’re in such a different time, raising our children, than when you were raising yours. If I can be extremely blunt, any kind of device that is connected to the internet, if you have children, and you are not . . . I’m not even going to say if you're not just watching them, because none of that matters.
Daniel and I felt like we were doing everything right. We had everything on lockdown. We had so little exposure, but we still, we still had a situation where the enemy got into our home and got into this device. It wasn’t even the original intent. It was actually YouTube videos on fishing that turned into YouTube videos on fishing with girls that had bikinis on. It started so subtly, and they were genuinely wanting to learn about fishing.
But when you understand the behind-the-scenes of what these big companies are wanting—they want to destroy our children’s purity and destroy their minds. All of a sudden, they started flashing different pictures and different videos, slowly but surely. Thankfully, my husband was able to nip it in the bud.
But we would be in the same living room with them not even knowing what was going on, because when you have more children than you have eyes, there’s a really good chance you're not going to be able to see everything. My encouragement to a mama listening right now, it is going to be one of the toughest things you ever do. But literally take every device in your home. and throw it in the fireplace. It is not worth it.
I understand, they need GPS. Well, guess what, there are ways to do GPS. “Oh, but they need a home phone.” Well, there are phones that you can use that don’t have internet capabilities. Take it from somebody who really thought we were doing everything right, almost to a point where I got a little cocky, thinking, “We’re doing great!” And then I realized “Oh no, we’re not doing great!”
And we have had to rein it in so tight that my mission in life is to scream from the mountaintops, “Get rid of devices. It is not worth it.” You’re not being a cool, fun mom by letting your ten-year-old have a device, or 15-year-old have a device, and then go their bedrooms, shut the door. You are in for it! You are in for it.
And it’s not them. You can say, “But I trust my child.” You can trust your child all you want, but don’t trust those that made that device! Their goal is to destroy your children’s innocence. The pictures that my sons saw, there’s no way I can undo it. It was not his intention, but I can’t undo it, so I’m saying from experience, don’t trust these devices. It’s so critical.
Nancy: Amen. Amen.
Allison: We’ve got to guard our children’s hearts, and their minds, and their eyes.
Nancy: Absolutely. Well, now it comes to an end. What are we going to do now? We’re going to go off to The Trim Healthy Mama Café. Allison and me, and Serene, and little Selah’s coming with us.
Allison: And Solly.
Nancy: All the little girls, Eden, that’s Allison’s married daughter. She’s taking all the middling little girls shopping. Once again, that’s what she wants to do. She doesn’t have to do that, but she wants to take all the little siblings, and Serene’s siblings, because it’s her mother’s heart. It’s our mother heart. If we let our children not be taken over by the world, and go according to what’s inherent within them, that’s what they want to do.
What are the boys doing? They’ve gone in to visit Niles in the hospital and be with him. The Schrum family who live next door to us, just before Thanksgiving, Niles shot a deer, but bringing it home out of the woods, he had an accident, and he’s got broken bones in both legs. But they’re in seeing him and what are they going to do after that?
Allison: They’re going to go work and help build his house. I was just thinking, you always say, “We mothers have the greatest job in the entire world. Why wouldn’t we want to share that with our children? Wouldn’t you want your children to get experience?”
I think, as mothers, to look at what we do as such a privilege, and you're just bursting at the seams to share it with people. I loved watching you yesterday prepare for Thanksgiving. You had all my children surrounding you, and it was a mess. There were potato peels flying everywhere! But they’ll never forget that. Not only are you teaching them how to peel a potato properly . . .
Nancy: They’re pretty good at it!
Allison: Yeah! But you're teaching them how to love to cook and how to love to prepare. Most grandmothers, most mamas say, “Get out! Get out! Get out of the kitchen!” But they’re missing that joy of being able to teach them.
Nancy: Amen! Well, we love you all. Have the most beautiful Christmas Day tomorrow with your family. Those who are celebrating Hannukah, may you have the most blessed time. Maybe you can pray for them all this time. And pray against the iPhones!
Allison: Absolutely!
“Dear God, we just thank You for every mother that’s listening right now. We pray for their marriages, pray for their families, pray that they would have a supernatural joy that is in them right now, and that they’re so excited and willing to take on the challenge of motherhood, and look at it as such a positive thing, and look forward to training their children.
“We pray for our young people. We pray for their minds, and their hearts, and their eyes to be pure. We pray that the parents will desire total purity and holiness from their family. We pray for our Above Rubies community, that You will continue to grow it, and that You will protect it against any schemes of the enemy wanting to come and destroy what we have. It’s such a wonderful thing.
“Thank You for the Campbells being so hospitable, and opening up their home, and being willing to pour into our children, and to teach them all the wisdom they know. Bless all the mamas listening. May something that we said today just encourage them and grow their family in the Lord. In Your Name I pray, Amen.”
Nancy: Amen!
Blessings from Nancy Campbell
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